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jps July 2nd 12 07:51 PM

America, the beautiful...
 

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

Oscar July 2nd 12 08:00 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


Wouldn't you like take this opportunity to thank a vet for his service?
Don't be bashful. Ill wait


X ` Man July 2nd 12 08:03 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.


Oscar July 2nd 12 08:11 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


JustWait[_2_] July 2nd 12 08:27 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 3:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


.... and turned every other country over there against us...


Canuck57[_9_] July 2nd 12 09:24 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 02/07/2012 1:00 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


Wouldn't you like take this opportunity to thank a vet for his service?
Don't be bashful. Ill wait


I do. Takes courage to join a system to fight for coutnry when you know
they will let you down in the end.


--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.



Canuck57[_9_] July 2nd 12 09:25 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.



X ` Man[_3_] July 2nd 12 09:32 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.

I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.

I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.

Oscar July 2nd 12 10:16 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 4:32 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.

I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.

I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.


The way you tell it there was a very small window of time you were draft
eligible. I doubt if they they thought they could use you for anything
anyway.


JustWait[_2_] July 2nd 12 10:36 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


jps July 3rd 12 01:55 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:32:29 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.

I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.

I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.


I just spent several days in Ontario. Lovely folks, nothing at all
like this hooligan calling himself Canuck57. I suspect he's an
outcast even among his "friends."

jps July 3rd 12 01:56 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.

JustWait[_2_] July 3rd 12 02:30 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


Oscar July 3rd 12 02:40 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 9:30 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command.
That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces
are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three,
four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never
ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...

I'll bet JPS didn't


North Star July 3rd 12 03:05 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Jul 2, 9:55*pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:32:29 -0400, X ` Man

wrote:
On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.


I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.


I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.


I just spent several days in Ontario. *Lovely folks, nothing at all
like this hooligan calling himself Canuck57. *I suspect he's an
outcast even among his "friends."


Canuckles lives in Alberta.....or at least he did.

X ` Man[_3_] July 3rd 12 03:06 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 9:30 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command.
That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces
are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three,
four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never
ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...



Volunteer for what?


North Star July 3rd 12 03:07 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Jul 2, 10:30*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:









On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:


On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:


Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.


Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.


As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.


“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”


War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.


Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? *Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?


Did you volunteer when you were of age? *If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


Yeah right...you showed up in your mother's dress ranting and raving
to get a whacko deferment.

X ` Man[_3_] July 3rd 12 03:17 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 10:07 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:30 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:









On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:


On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:


Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.


Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.


As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.


“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”


War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.


Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?


Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


Yeah right...you showed up in your mother's dress ranting and raving
to get a whacko deferment.



My guess is that Little****Snotty was too young to be drafted for
Vietnam, and that war was pretty much the end of the draft. If he
"volunteered," he probably was rejected for any number of reasons,
including his ponytail.


JustWait[_2_] July 3rd 12 03:23 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 10:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 10:07 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:30 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:









On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”

War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.

Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.

I did volonteer, so **** off...


Yeah right...you showed up in your mother's dress ranting and raving
to get a whacko deferment.



My guess is that Little****Snotty was too young to be drafted for
Vietnam, and that war was pretty much the end of the draft. If he
"volunteered," he probably was rejected for any number of reasons,
including his ponytail.


Whatever harry, I volunteered, you ran...


Califbill July 3rd 12 07:13 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

He probably ended up with a high draft number.


X ` Man[_3_] July 3rd 12 11:48 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 10:23 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 10:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 10:07 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:30 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:









On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the
Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”

War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are
wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.

Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.

I did volonteer, so **** off...

Yeah right...you showed up in your mother's dress ranting and raving
to get a whacko deferment.



My guess is that Little****Snotty was too young to be drafted for
Vietnam, and that war was pretty much the end of the draft. If he
"volunteered," he probably was rejected for any number of reasons,
including his ponytail.


Whatever harry, I volunteered, you ran...



No, little****..."ran" implies I took steps to avoid the draft or "hid"
from the draft board. I did neither. I registered, and when I moved, I
informed the draft board of my whereabouts. I simply never got a notice.

And what happened when you volunteered, little****? You were turned
down, right?


iBoaterer[_2_] July 3rd 12 12:59 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 3:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has ?18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States? due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army?s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, ?implying a prevalent public
health problem.? Since then, the military?s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

?If I?m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom ? but mostly my dad ? has deployed at this
pace, I?m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,? Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. ?And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.?



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


... and turned every other country over there against us...


Wait a minute. Are you now saying that we should make nice with the
Muslim nations?

iBoaterer[_2_] July 3rd 12 01:00 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has ?18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States? due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army?s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, ?implying a prevalent public
health problem.? Since then, the military?s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

?If I?m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom ? but mostly my dad ? has deployed at this
pace, I?m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,? Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. ?And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.?



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


Did you serve? Why not?

X ` Man[_3_] July 3rd 12 01:01 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/3/12 7:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 3:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has ?18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States? due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army?s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, ?implying a prevalent public
health problem.? Since then, the military?s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

?If I?m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom ? but mostly my dad ? has deployed at this
pace, I?m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,? Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. ?And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.?



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


... and turned every other country over there against us...


Wait a minute. Are you now saying that we should make nice with the
Muslim nations?



LittleSnot is a fan of dictatorships.

Oscar July 3rd 12 01:13 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 10:23 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 10:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 10:07 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:30 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:









On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the
Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”

War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are
wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.

Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.

I did volonteer, so **** off...

Yeah right...you showed up in your mother's dress ranting and raving
to get a whacko deferment.



My guess is that Little****Snotty was too young to be drafted for
Vietnam, and that war was pretty much the end of the draft. If he
"volunteered," he probably was rejected for any number of reasons,
including his ponytail.


Whatever harry, I volunteered, you ran...

They saw his yella streak and set him aside.


Oscar July 3rd 12 01:15 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/3/2012 7:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 3:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has ?18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States? due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army?s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, ?implying a prevalent public
health problem.? Since then, the military?s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

?If I?m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom ? but mostly my dad ? has deployed at this
pace, I?m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,? Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. ?And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.?



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


... and turned every other country over there against us...


Wait a minute. Are you now saying that we should make nice with the
Muslim nations?


That was O'Bama's plan. It didn't work.


X ` Man[_3_] July 3rd 12 01:48 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/3/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has ?18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States? due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army?s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, ?implying a prevalent public
health problem.? Since then, the military?s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

?If I?m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom ? but mostly my dad ? has deployed at this
pace, I?m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,? Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. ?And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.?



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


Did you serve? Why not?


Snotty didn't serve. Even the military recognized him for the psychopath
he was when he tried to volunteer...which I don't believe he ever did.


Oscar July 3rd 12 02:04 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/3/2012 8:48 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/3/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has ?18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States? due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army?s Public Health Command.
That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, ?implying a prevalent
public
health problem.? Since then, the military?s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces
are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

?If I?m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom ? but mostly my dad ? has deployed at this
pace, I?m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three,
four
or five times,? Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. ?And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.?



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never
ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


Did you serve? Why not?


Snotty didn't serve. Even the military recognized him for the psychopath
he was when he tried to volunteer...which I don't believe he ever did.


Coming from the guy who didn't serve because he wasn't forced to.


jps July 3rd 12 09:04 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...


WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?

jps July 3rd 12 09:06 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 19:05:32 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jul 2, 9:55*pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:32:29 -0400, X ` Man

wrote:
On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.


I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.


I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.


I just spent several days in Ontario. *Lovely folks, nothing at all
like this hooligan calling himself Canuck57. *I suspect he's an
outcast even among his "friends."


Canuckles lives in Alberta.....or at least he did.


Is that where they send the right wing malcontents? Based on his
claptrap, he must be pretty far north, as in permafrost.

X ` Man[_3_] July 3rd 12 09:41 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.


Califbill July 4th 12 02:21 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has
“18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to
the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command.
That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces
are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account
for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides
is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months
at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three,
four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never
ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.
-----------------------------------------
Lots were rejected. When I went for my draft physical, flat feet got a
couple, bad eyesight got a few. Coworker was rejected after he got to
training as he was over height. If you had larger than size 15 shoe, you
were out. they do not have the supplies to clothe over and undersize
people, etc.


X ` Man[_3_] July 4th 12 02:47 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/3/12 9:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.
-----------------------------------------
Lots were rejected. When I went for my draft physical, flat feet got a
couple, bad eyesight got a few. Coworker was rejected after he got to
training as he was over height. If you had larger than size 15 shoe,
you were out. they do not have the supplies to clothe over and
undersize people, etc.


Or om justsnot's case, underbrained.


Califbill July 4th 12 03:11 AM

America, the beautiful...
 
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 9:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...


To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.
-----------------------------------------
Lots were rejected. When I went for my draft physical, flat feet got a
couple, bad eyesight got a few. Coworker was rejected after he got to
training as he was over height. If you had larger than size 15 shoe,
you were out. they do not have the supplies to clothe over and
undersize people, etc.


Or om justsnot's case, underbrained.
------------------------------------------------------
could also describe your pscyh profile.


John H.[_5_] July 6th 12 09:38 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:51:46 -0700, jps wrote:


Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


Wonder why 'Bama just stays and stays?

Oscar July 6th 12 11:24 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/6/2012 4:38 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:51:46 -0700, jps wrote:


Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


Wonder why 'Bama just stays and stays?

I think George had a removal strategy for Iraq all mapped out. Bama is
going to have to figger out Afghanistan on his own.



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