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In article , says...

On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.

So do you not value your family enough to want them to have healthcare?

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On Jun 29, 3:29*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...











On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. *I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, *self serving and self perpetuating. *Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?

Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.

So do you not value your family enough to want them to have healthcare?

If he valued his family, he'd get a job and contribute to supporting
them.

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On 6/29/2012 3:02 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 29, 3:29 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...











On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?

Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.

So do you not value your family enough to want them to have healthcare?

If he valued his family, he'd get a job and contribute to supporting
them.


Don't you ever get tired of licking Krause's anus?

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On 6/29/12 3:02 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 29, 3:29 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...











On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?

Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.

So do you not value your family enough to want them to have healthcare?

If he valued his family, he'd get a job and contribute to supporting
them.



The littlesnot is upset because some Americans have really good health
care plans that they pay for?

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On 6/29/2012 1:55 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/29/2012 1:42 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article m,
says...


Can't do that. I already paid for it. Forced to pay for it, I might add.

That's what all the socialists sucking gov titty say.
"Free" men don't buy that sniveling crap.
You're just part of the "problem." ******.

You are so wrong, but you know that, don't you?


Plum just likes to call names...

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In article , says...

On 6/29/2012 1:55 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/29/2012 1:42 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article m,
says...


Can't do that. I already paid for it. Forced to pay for it, I might add.

That's what all the socialists sucking gov titty say.
"Free" men don't buy that sniveling crap.
You're just part of the "problem." ******.

You are so wrong, but you know that, don't you?


Plum just likes to call names...

I thought *I* was "Plum"??? Man, you are crazy!

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On 6/29/2012 3:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 6/29/2012 1:55 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/29/2012 1:42 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article m,
says...


Can't do that. I already paid for it. Forced to pay for it, I might add.

That's what all the socialists sucking gov titty say.
"Free" men don't buy that sniveling crap.
You're just part of the "problem." ******.

You are so wrong, but you know that, don't you?


Plum just likes to call names...

I thought *I* was "Plum"??? Man, you are crazy!

You are. The other guy is a Harry sock puppet

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On 6/29/2012 7:46 AM, wrote:
On Friday, June 29, 2012 7:26:40 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 9:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
...Constitutional...

This will be one more additional government program that is
underfunded and will cause higher taxes and make the United
States economy even worse. 10, 20 or 30 years from now we
will be suffering sever problems with S.S., Medicaid, government
pensions, military pensions, food stamp programs, etc.
The answer is to cut back on benefits, but with such a high
percentage of the population sucking on the government breast
the politicians can't do the right thing.
We are becoming a third rate nation.
Mikek

Why is it a foreigner can come here and in 15 years
have a net worth in the top 15%, but a native finds
food stamps, public housing and medicaid a way of life?

Because they are hungry for something better, and have a good work ethic.

The vast majority of "natives" grow up wanting for little, and the work ethic has been bred out of them, instead replace by a sense of entitlement.

The child rearing revolution of the 80's, and the fact we no longer use red ink in school or keep little league score is also a big factor.

Basically, we're raising generations of self-centered, spoiled brats.

As evidenced right here, *some* families actually started that practice 60+ years ago.

Yep! I knew all that, the question was rhetorical, but I appreciated
your answer.
Both my children are in college now, but I hope that watching their
parents live well below their means for the 18 or 20 years of their life
has rubbed off on them.
Mikek

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On 6/28/2012 9:06 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 11:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/28/12 12:18 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 9:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
...Constitutional...

It's time for me to join the socialists?
I pay $6,200 for my healthcare premium with a $10,000 deductible, and
then I put $7,150 into my health savings account.
So each year I spend $13,350 for my families healthcare.

So what steps do I need to do to get the taxpayers to take care of
my health needs?

Mikek


You obviously do not understand how insurance works.

Please explain what you think I don't understand.
Mikek

I still want to now what you think I don't understand
about how insurance works. Maybe I need to make some changes.
Thanks, Mikek

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On 6/29/12 4:52 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 9:06 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 11:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/28/12 12:18 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 9:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
...Constitutional...

It's time for me to join the socialists?
I pay $6,200 for my healthcare premium with a $10,000 deductible, and
then I put $7,150 into my health savings account.
So each year I spend $13,350 for my families healthcare.

So what steps do I need to do to get the taxpayers to take care of
my health needs?

Mikek


You obviously do not understand how insurance works.

Please explain what you think I don't understand.
Mikek

I still want to now what you think I don't understand
about how insurance works. Maybe I need to make some changes.
Thanks, Mikek


For starters, do you regularly burn through that $7150 each year?

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On Jun 29, 4:07*pm, Oscar wrote:
On 6/29/2012 3:02 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 29, 3:29 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. *I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, *self serving and self perpetuating. *Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?

Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.

So do you not value your family enough to want them to have healthcare?

If he valued his family, he'd get a job and contribute to supporting
them.

Don't you ever get tired of licking Krause's anus?

Don't you ever get tired of doing as you suggest with Snotties......

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"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


This is the most screwed up, convoluted law ever enacted.
The intent is admirable .... to make health care affordable
for all,

Bull****. You said you're a "conservative."
The "conservatives" in Congress DON'T BELIEVE that health care should
be
affordable for all.
If they did, they'd write a bill that did that.
"Conservatives" DON'T BELIEVE THAT HEALTH CARE SHOULD BE AFFORDABLE
FOR
ALL!
So be an honest man and lay out your plan.
Nobody with over an ounce of brain matter buys this bull****.
It's really as simple as that. I'm tired of this lying, ostensibly
"reasonable" bull****. Cut to the facts. It's all in the facts.
All other first world countries solved this years or decades ago.
I repeat, lay out your "conservative" plan and don't try jacking
honest
people around. Then convince your so-call "conservative" compatriots.
BTW, labeling yourself a "conservative" ties you up with that
political
hack crowd, as I hope I've made clear.
To real "reasonable" people, those who label themselves like a dime-
store item as "liberals" and "conservatives" are ****ing idiots.

---------------------------------------

Wow. I guess you told me, huh?

I am conservative in my overall social and fiscal philosophies.
That's all.
You can be conservative but not be in agreement with conservative
politicians.

But, I am wasting my time.

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On 6/29/2012 3:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/29/12 4:52 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 9:06 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 11:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/28/12 12:18 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/28/2012 9:20 AM, X ` Man wrote:
...Constitutional...

It's time for me to join the socialists?
I pay $6,200 for my healthcare premium with a $10,000 deductible, and
then I put $7,150 into my health savings account.
So each year I spend $13,350 for my families healthcare.

So what steps do I need to do to get the taxpayers to take care of
my health needs?

Mikek


You obviously do not understand how insurance works.

Please explain what you think I don't understand.
Mikek

I still want to now what you think I don't understand
about how insurance works. Maybe I need to make some changes.
Thanks, Mikek


For starters, do you regularly burn through that $7150 each year?

No! Current IRS rules allow me to roll it over into an IRA when I
start using medicare.

Next?
Mikek

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In article ,
says...

But, I am wasting my time.

You saying "The intent is admirable .... to make health care affordable
for all" sure as hell is a waste of everybody's time.
It's a dishonest statement when you don't mean it.
And if you mean it, lay out how to do it.
You won't, because you can't, because you've labeled yourself a
"conservative." It runs counter to American "conservative principles."
That's why they - and YOU - are so opposed to the PPACA.
Laying out a plan would only prove you're NOT a "conservative."
So just quit lying about it.
Reasonable, thinking people are tired of that "waste of time" bull****.
You wear the label you put on yourself.
That's how it is. It was your choice.
Accept the label, or change it.
But don't lie about it. You're old enough to know better.

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In article ,
says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


This is the most screwed up, convoluted law ever enacted.
The intent is admirable .... to make health care affordable
for all,

Bull****. You said you're a "conservative."
The "conservatives" in Congress DON'T BELIEVE that health care should
be
affordable for all.
If they did, they'd write a bill that did that.
"Conservatives" DON'T BELIEVE THAT HEALTH CARE SHOULD BE AFFORDABLE
FOR
ALL!
So be an honest man and lay out your plan.
Nobody with over an ounce of brain matter buys this bull****.
It's really as simple as that. I'm tired of this lying, ostensibly
"reasonable" bull****. Cut to the facts. It's all in the facts.
All other first world countries solved this years or decades ago.
I repeat, lay out your "conservative" plan and don't try jacking
honest
people around. Then convince your so-call "conservative" compatriots.
BTW, labeling yourself a "conservative" ties you up with that
political
hack crowd, as I hope I've made clear.
To real "reasonable" people, those who label themselves like a dime-
store item as "liberals" and "conservatives" are ****ing idiots.

---------------------------------------

Wow. I guess you told me, huh?

I am conservative in my overall social and fiscal philosophies.
That's all.
You can be conservative but not be in agreement with conservative
politicians.

But, I am wasting my time.

I agree!

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On 6/30/2012 9:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

But, I am wasting my time.

You saying "The intent is admirable .... to make health care affordable
for all" sure as hell is a waste of everybody's time.
It's a dishonest statement when you don't mean it.
And if you mean it, lay out how to do it.
You won't, because you can't


Let's stop right here and cut your insane bull****. What makes you think
one man can come up with a plan that is both affordable to all and
equitable? It's been tried by One reason Congress, presidents, and all
the bright people they surround themselves with can't do it is they are
playing a game of political football with their own best interests in
mind. Reasonable, Thinking people can't come to a consensus on what's
reasonable. You need to get back on your meds, Harry.


, because you've labeled yourself a
"conservative." It runs counter to American "conservative principles."
That's why they - and YOU - are so opposed to the PPACA.
Laying out a plan would only prove you're NOT a "conservative."
So just quit lying about it.
Reasonable, thinking people are tired of that "waste of time" bull****.
You wear the label you put on yourself.
That's how it is. It was your choice.
Accept the label, or change it.
But don't lie about it. You're old enough to know better.

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"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.
Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

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"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article om, 5@
5.com says...

On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


My name is Oscar and I approve this message

Then both of you fools should give up your Medicare.
Who the hell do you think you're fooling?
Amazing how folks can flap their lips thinking nobody can recognize
gibberish.


----------------------------------------
I pay a lot for my Medicare. Maybe the health care act should be based on
your income. That is what Medicare does.

Affordable Care Act...
 

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.
Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

Nope. Not a dime was exchanged.

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In article m,
says...

On 6/30/2012 9:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

But, I am wasting my time.

You saying "The intent is admirable .... to make health care affordable
for all" sure as hell is a waste of everybody's time.
It's a dishonest statement when you don't mean it.
And if you mean it, lay out how to do it.
You won't, because you can't


Let's stop right here and cut your insane bull****. What makes you think
one man can come up with a plan that is both affordable to all and
equitable?

More bull**** from the peanut gallery.
If his "conservative" pals in Congress had such a plan, they would
publicize it. That don't have a plan. They resist, stall and otherwise
bulljive - because they DON'T ****ING BELIEVE in "health care affordable
for all." That's NOT a conservative principle.
"Equitable" is just another bull**** excuse. Life ain't fair, or
"equitable." Never will be. Everybody over 6 years old knows that.
"Equitable" is just a word for gov tit-suckers like you to justify your
SS and Medicare. That's "equitable." Anybody else feeding on the gov
tit? Not equitable. You ain't fooling anybody, socialist.
You're no better than the lame pols saying what they don't mean, or
Eisboch calling himself a "conservative" and saying it's "admirable" to
have "health care affordable for all" in one breath.
Just plain old contradictory bull****.
And you're full of **** too.
Quit ****ing lying. Low-life liars are not wanted here.
Not by honest people anyway. It's ok to circle-jerk with Justwait.
I won't notice. I'm back to ignoring both of you.

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On 6/29/2012 12:10 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/29/12 12:58 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.


If only you had the skills to be in a union and have decent health care
insurance, eh?

Whoa, where did you get the idea it takes skills to be in a union?
Mikek

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On 6/30/2012 12:34 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article om, 5@
5.com says...

On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't
mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


My name is Oscar and I approve this message

Then both of you fools should give up your Medicare.
Who the hell do you think you're fooling?
Amazing how folks can flap their lips thinking nobody can recognize
gibberish.


----------------------------------------
I pay a lot for my Medicare. Maybe the health care act should be based
on your income. That is what Medicare does.

Some of those liberal doofuses don't know the difference between
government handouts and paid for insurance programs.

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On 6/30/2012 1:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 6/30/2012 9:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

But, I am wasting my time.

You saying "The intent is admirable .... to make health care affordable
for all" sure as hell is a waste of everybody's time.
It's a dishonest statement when you don't mean it.
And if you mean it, lay out how to do it.
You won't, because you can't


Let's stop right here and cut your insane bull****. What makes you think
one man can come up with a plan that is both affordable to all and
equitable?

More bull**** from the peanut gallery.
If his "conservative" pals in Congress had such a plan, they would
publicize it. That don't have a plan. They resist, stall and otherwise
bulljive - because they DON'T ****ING BELIEVE in "health care affordable
for all." That's NOT a conservative principle.
"Equitable" is just another bull**** excuse. Life ain't fair, or
"equitable." Never will be. Everybody over 6 years old knows that.
"Equitable" is just a word for gov tit-suckers like you to justify your
SS and Medicare. That's "equitable." Anybody else feeding on the gov
tit? Not equitable. You ain't fooling anybody, socialist.
You're no better than the lame pols saying what they don't mean, or
Eisboch calling himself a "conservative" and saying it's "admirable" to
have "health care affordable for all" in one breath.
Just plain old contradictory bull****.
And you're full of **** too.
Quit ****ing lying. Low-life liars are not wanted here.
Not by honest people anyway. It's ok to circle-jerk with Justwait.
I won't notice. I'm back to ignoring both of you.


So be it, you ignorant fool.

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On 6/30/2012 2:37 PM, amdx wrote:
On 6/29/2012 12:10 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/29/12 12:58 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't
mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


Well, to start with a lot of those high value health plan holders
(unions) who have been exempted from the taxes on their benefits.


If only you had the skills to be in a union and have decent health care
insurance, eh?

Whoa, where did you get the idea it takes skills to be in a union?
Mikek

Please don't think Harry has ideas. He's a parrot.

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On 6/29/2012 12:12 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In raweb.com, 5@
5.com says...

On 6/29/2012 12:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:23:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

Where is the carefully researched and thought out Republican plan to
overhaul our system of paying for health care, and by that I don't mean
the repeal of Medicare.

===

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


My name is Oscar and I approve this message

Then both of you fools should give up your Medicare.
Who the hell do you think you're fooling?
Amazing how folks can flap their lips thinking nobody can recognize
gibberish.

If they weren't forced to pay into it for 45 years that would be easy.
Mikek

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On Jun 29, 8:29*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:


But, *I am wasting my time.


Richard, I was wondering when you'd find something more constructive
to do...

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On Jun 30, 1:24*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, *how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! *A lot of years ago, as we were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. *Do not remember if leg or arm. *She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. *So no
service. *If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. *I am just home from a trip to the
hospital for clumsiness. *Fell off the roof fixing the solar. *Ladder
slipped. *They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. *In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. *Don't know if he had insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. *As to making
healthcare affordable. *How? *Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. *My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. *Just
saying the act is a tax. *Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

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On 6/30/2012 4:34 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

So how much longer will you have to wait for that brain transplant?

Affordable Care Act...
 

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Jun 29, 8:29*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:


But, *I am wasting my time.


Richard, I was wondering when you'd find something more constructive
to do...

Ayup!

Speaking of constructive, I start my guitar lessons on Tuesday. Did you see my post Chile
w/turkey. Stuff is pretty good.

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On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 29, 8:29*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:


But, *I am wasting my time.


Richard, I was wondering when you'd find something more constructive
to do...

===

Because he is a reasonable guy, he just can't help but try to inject a
voice of reason into this group once in a while. I applaud the
effort. We need more of it.

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On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:24:24 -0500, amdx wrote:

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


My name is Oscar and I approve this message

Then both of you fools should give up your Medicare.
Who the hell do you think you're fooling?
Amazing how folks can flap their lips thinking nobody can recognize
gibberish.

If they weren't forced to pay into it for 45 years that would be easy.
Mikek

===

Exactly right. After you've spent a lifetime contributing hundreds
of thousands, it's not really a handout.

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"North Star" wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Affordable Care Act...
 

On Jun 30, 9:27*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, *how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue..

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! *A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. *Do not remember if leg or arm. *She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. *So no
service. *If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. *I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. *Fell off the roof fixing the solar. *Ladder
slipped. *They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. *In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. *Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. *As to making
healthcare affordable. *How? *Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. *My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. *Just
saying the act is a tax. *Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. *And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. *I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. *Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. *They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. *If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. *We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. *They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. *No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. *I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. *A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. *How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Affordable Care Act...
 

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Affordable Care Act...
 

On Jun 30, 10:06*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message

....

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, *how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! *A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. *Do not remember if leg or arm. *She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. *So no
service. *If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. *I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. *Fell off the roof fixing the solar. *Ladder
slipped. *They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. *In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. *Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. *As to making
healthcare affordable. *How? *Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. *My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. *Just
saying the act is a tax. *Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. *And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. *I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. *Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. *They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. *If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. *We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. *They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. *No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. *I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. *A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. *How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

What would Terri or Inky's wife think of your posts in here?
Not much, I trust.

Affordable Care Act...
 

On 6/30/2012 10:47 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 10:06 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

What would Terri or Inky's wife think of your posts in here?
Not much, I trust.


I dunno' how about you and your buddy here all day long bullying and
slandering, then crying like the punk bitch you are when I say something
back? Do you think your family would think you were tough? I think they
would think you are a punk.

Affordable Care Act...
 

In article ,
says...

"North Star" wrote in message
...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Nope. Walked into the hospital, they asked a few questions, took him
back, stitched him up, out within a half hour total, no money exchanged.

Affordable Care Act...
 

In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.

Affordable Care Act...
 

In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 10:47 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 10:06 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
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And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

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No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

What would Terri or Inky's wife think of your posts in here?
Not much, I trust.


I dunno' how about you and your buddy here all day long bullying and
slandering, then crying like the punk bitch you are when I say something
back? Do you think your family would think you were tough? I think they
would think you are a punk.

Saying disparaging things about someone's family members is about as low
as a human can get.

Affordable Care Act...
 

On 7/1/2012 10:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.


Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So, what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I am the
kettle...