Mercury outboards
 

On 6/6/2012 3:22 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:03 pm, wrote:
On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

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If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

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Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

I've sailed in waters that would have you hiding in the cabin with a
blanky over your head, SailorBoy.

You are talking about Halifax NS harbor, of course. What a cesspool.
Makes the Chesapeake look like Perrier water.

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On Jun 6, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

My advice? Go with the 60 HP model, for all of the reasons the stealer
gave.

PS
If you are in salt water, forget the Mercury.

Probably 60% salt water
20% fresh
20% brackish (lower concentration than seawater but still a mixture
re lales affected by tides)
Don't the Mercurys hold up in salt water?

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On Jun 6, 1:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:49:56 -0400, Oscar wrote:
Why are you fixated on aluminum boats?

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I would imagine because of towing weight issues with the RAV-4.

Now, if i had a real tow vehicle I could probably get this down a bit
to the same price as the new 16 Xcalibur.
http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ385112304

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On Jun 6, 9:32*am, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features* *scroll down to
full top.

I'd love to have a top like that for my 18 ft. ChrisCraft. All I can
find on the 'net is buggy tops.

ugh!

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On Jun 6, 8:30*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jun 6, 9:32*am, North Star wrote:









On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcal...atures**scroll down to
full top.

I'd love to have a top like that for my 18 ft. ChrisCraft. All I can
find on the 'net is buggy tops.

ugh!

You could probably get one made up. Legend claims they are worth $1600.

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North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:48 pm, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur
75 HP max seems low for a boat that size with a nice 82" beam. The
upgrade prices seem awfully high, too. Have you compared other boats?
Missed both local boatshows this winter/early spring but have talked
to the local Princecraft dealer and the Lund dealer.
I went out to the new Mirrocraft dealer but he only had a couple of
boats around at that time. They didn't look nearly as solid as the
Legend Gen X boats.
We seem to be a bit limited here with a small market... most dealers
keep a few boats around but will bring in anything you want if you put
some money down.
I probably should be smart and wait for the big boatshow in Toronto in
February.
That would be smart. The 2013's will be on display, too.

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North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:07 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
If you are lugging the extra weight of a mid range 4 stroke around why
not buy the 60. The 50 is the same motor, throttled down by the
computer.
I am surprised they can even sell a 2 stroke these days.

I suppose you know that 4 stroke is a chinese motor.
No.. I didn't see that anywhere in the literature on Mercury motors.
Dealer says it would cost a lot to substitute for a Yamaha. Says he
used to carry both and didn't have problems with either model of
outboard.
The Legend people claim that they get a good deal from Mercury by
carrying their line exclusively.
The same is true at Bass Pro Shops. They are locked into Mercury
motors. I've had two and they were both great motors. Not a single
problem with many hours on the clock(s).

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North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 12:16 am, wrote:
On Jun 5, 7:21 pm, North wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur
That's a swell looking boat, Don.
I may still opt for the little boat with a 40 hp 4 stroke that only
has a hull weight of 600 lbs.
I'll have to board it and see if it fits. The wife of course thinks
bigger is better.... she's a bit nervous on the water and really just
wants to invite her friends and workmates out for afternoon cruises
where I would rather tow to interesting places (bays, harbours and
lakes) that seem interesting.
As we used to say with trailerable sailboats... we can run upwind at
60 mph on the highway a lot faster than we could sail to various
sites.
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/allsport/summary
I think your wife has the right idea. You can buy a POS boat from
Craigslist if you just want to tow something around. You are buying a
boat to go boating!

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North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 6:56 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
My advice? Go with the 60 HP model, for all of the reasons the stealer
gave.

PS
If you are in salt water, forget the Mercury.
Probably 60% salt water
20% fresh
20% brackish (lower concentration than seawater but still a mixture
re lales affected by tides)
Don't the Mercurys hold up in salt water?
Yes, they do.