Mercury outboards
 

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.


Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 9:07*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.


Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 9:19*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/5/12 8:21 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur


I would call the factory and find out what the performance figures are
like with various outboards on that boat. I'm sure they've tested. If
you can get the cruise speed you want with a smaller engine and the boat
loaded the way you intend, then that is enough outboard.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 9:25*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:21 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com * *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

I would call the factory and find out what the performance figures are
like with various outboards on that boat. I'm sure they've tested. If
you can get the cruise speed you want with a smaller engine and the boat
loaded the way you intend, then that is enough outboard.

They do show speeds on page 5 and 6 of their catalogue.
here's the online version... http://legendboats.com/en/welcome/fl.../catalogue2012

Mercury outboards
 

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/5/2012 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

There's a lot more to it than that really... and as much as I would love
to say nothing I will simply say this: Nobody ever hated their boat for
being overpowered, at the same there is nothing more aggravating or
frustrating than a underpowered boat.

Mercury outboards
 

North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur
75 HP max seems low for a boat that size with a nice 82" beam. The
upgrade prices seem awfully high, too. Have you compared other boats?

Mercury outboards
 

X ` Man wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:21 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on
waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the
bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and
will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke
should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about...
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur


I would call the factory and find out what the performance figures are
like with various outboards on that boat. I'm sure they've tested. If
you can get the cruise speed you want with a smaller engine and the
boat loaded the way you intend, then that is enough outboard.
I would have agreed with you 20 years ago. If this boat is going any
distance offshore on a calm day, it's better to have more HP to run back
when a storm starts to appear!

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 7:21*pm, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-









can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

That's a swell looking boat, Don.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 9:48*pm, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com * *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

75 HP max seems low for a boat that size with a nice 82" beam. *The
upgrade prices seem awfully high, too. * Have you compared other boats?

Missed both local boatshows this winter/early spring but have talked
to the local Princecraft dealer and the Lund dealer.
I went out to the new Mirrocraft dealer but he only had a couple of
boats around at that time. They didn't look nearly as solid as the
Legend Gen X boats.
We seem to be a bit limited here with a small market... most dealers
keep a few boats around but will bring in anything you want if you put
some money down.
I probably should be smart and wait for the big boatshow in Toronto in
February.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 5, 10:07*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

If you are lugging the extra weight of a mid range 4 stroke around why
not buy the 60. The 50 is the same motor, throttled down by the
computer.
I am surprised they can even sell a 2 stroke these days.

I suppose you know that 4 stroke is a chinese motor.

No.. I didn't see that anywhere in the literature on Mercury motors.
Dealer says it would cost a lot to substitute for a Yamaha. Says he
used to carry both and didn't have problems with either model of
outboard.
The Legend people claim that they get a good deal from Mercury by
carrying their line exclusively.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 12:16*am, Tim wrote:
On Jun 5, 7:21*pm, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:19*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-

can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

That's a swell looking boat, Don.

I may still opt for the little boat with a 40 hp 4 stroke that only
has a hull weight of 600 lbs.
I'll have to board it and see if it fits. The wife of course thinks
bigger is better.... she's a bit nervous on the water and really just
wants to invite her friends and workmates out for afternoon cruises
where I would rather tow to interesting places (bays, harbours and
lakes) that seem interesting.
As we used to say with trailerable sailboats... we can run upwind at
60 mph on the highway a lot faster than we could sail to various
sites.
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/allsport/summary

Mercury outboards
 

In article 0c4f2f36-bce2-4953-9561-83c5748378b6
@j9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

I like that boat. The back flip up seats are a nice addition.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/6/2012 10:38 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:48 pm, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

75 HP max seems low for a boat that size with a nice 82" beam. The
upgrade prices seem awfully high, too. Have you compared other boats?

Missed both local boatshows this winter/early spring but have talked
to the local Princecraft dealer and the Lund dealer.
I went out to the new Mirrocraft dealer but he only had a couple of
boats around at that time. They didn't look nearly as solid as the
Legend Gen X boats.
We seem to be a bit limited here with a small market... most dealers
keep a few boats around but will bring in anything you want if you put
some money down.
I probably should be smart and wait for the big boatshow in Toronto in
February.

Why are you fixated on aluminum boats?

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 12:49*pm, Oscar wrote:
On 6/6/2012 10:38 AM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 5, 9:48 pm, *wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com * *wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com * * *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

75 HP max seems low for a boat that size with a nice 82" beam. *The
upgrade prices seem awfully high, too. * Have you compared other boats?

Missed both local boatshows this winter/early spring but have talked
to the local Princecraft dealer and the Lund dealer.
I went out to the new Mirrocraft dealer but he only had a couple of
boats around at that time. *They didn't look nearly as solid as the
Legend Gen X boats.
We seem to be a bit limited here with a small market... most dealers
keep a few boats around but will bring in anything you want if you put
some money down.
I probably should be smart and wait for the big boatshow in Toronto in
February.

Why are you fixated on aluminum boats?

Tough and light compared to fiberglass.

Mercury outboards
 

On 05/06/2012 5:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

I would go for the one that goes the longest distances on the same
amount of fuel. Usually the midrange size for the boat.

But you are right, buy the one you will use the boat for.

A counterpoint to the water ski, is smaller motors troll better and burn
less fuel.

Buy it exclusively for what your going to use it for. If fishing, 50 hp
is plenty.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.

Mercury outboards
 

On 05/06/2012 6:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.


Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

Pretty obvious, big price.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.

Mercury outboards
 

On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:49:56 -0400, Oscar wrote:

Why are you fixated on aluminum boats?

===

I would imagine because of towing weight issues with the RAV-4.

Mercury outboards
 

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/6/2012 10:49 AM, North Star wrote:


I may still opt for the little boat with a 40 hp 4 stroke that only
has a hull weight of 600 lbs.
I'll have to board it and see if it fits. The wife of course thinks
bigger is better.... she's a bit nervous on the water and really just
wants to invite her friends and workmates out for afternoon cruises
where I would rather tow to interesting places (bays, harbours and
lakes) that seem interesting.
As we used to say with trailerable sailboats... we can run upwind at
60 mph on the highway a lot faster than we could sail to various
sites.
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/allsport/summary

Absolutely the wrong tool for the job. Better to drive a little slower,
closer, and spend more gas than buy a boat that won't/can't do what you
want it to do.

Mercury outboards
 

On 05/06/2012 6:44 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/5/2012 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

There's a lot more to it than that really... and as much as I would love
to say nothing I will simply say this: Nobody ever hated their boat for
being overpowered, at the same there is nothing more aggravating or
frustrating than a underpowered boat.

As a kid my favorite fishing boat on an inland lake was a 9.9 hp Johnson
on a 18 foot aluminum boat rated for something like 40hp.

Sure, it was slow, but that was its advantage. 5 gallons of gas lasted
forever, and you could slow and deep troll in a way a 40 hp never could.

I used to get a kick out of idiots trolling with 90hp and didn't catch
much as I was reeling in a big walleye.

But admit, it was rare we went more than 5 miles from the cottage, it
was a 38 mile long lake. But great for +-5 miles either way.

About the only assured thing I would do without knowing what the boat is
going to be used for it that it would be 4 stroke for sure. Never did
like putzing with oil in the gas for 2 stroke.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.

Mercury outboards
 

On 05/06/2012 7:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

If you are lugging the extra weight of a mid range 4 stroke around why
not buy the 60. The 50 is the same motor, throttled down by the
computer.
I am surprised they can even sell a 2 stroke these days.

I suppose you know that 4 stroke is a chinese motor.

In some places you can't buy a 2 stroke any more. But usually how the
two strokes get nailed is on emissions and not specifically on 2 stroke.
Makes sense too.

Which also means 2 stroke makers are under pressure to reduce oil
consumption and possibly at the cost of engine longevity. So for that
reason alone be good enough to consider only a 4 stroke.

Personally, I think 2 stroke should be banned for anything over 5 hp.

Who gives a damn if it is Chinese or other? I would think an
intelligent buyer would be more concerned on reliability, longevity,
fuel consumption, future service needs and other more higher priorities.

Interesting table in soem engines:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/outd...oating/1276841


--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.


He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 3:03*pm, Oscar wrote:
On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
*wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, *wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

*wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& *warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features* *scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. *Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

I've sailed in waters that would have you hiding in the cabin with a
blanky over your head, SailorBoy.

Mercury outboards
 

In article 1c0c5123-abc6-4416-8d61-
,
says...

On Jun 6, 3:03*pm, Oscar wrote:
On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
*wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, *wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

*wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& *warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features* *scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. *Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

I've sailed in waters that would have you hiding in the cabin with a
blanky over your head, SailorBoy.

A direct quote from Harry Krause: "Self praise sucks".

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/6/12 3:22 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:03 pm, wrote:
On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

I've sailed in waters that would have you hiding in the cabin with a
blanky over your head, SailorBoy.


Oscar was in the naaaaaveeee....cleaning toilets and scraping paint.
When the ocean got rough, he stuck his head in the toilet or the paint
bucket, whichever was closest.

Mercury outboards
 

On 6/6/2012 3:22 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:03 pm, wrote:
On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

I've sailed in waters that would have you hiding in the cabin with a
blanky over your head, SailorBoy.

You are talking about Halifax NS harbor, of course. What a cesspool.
Makes the Chesapeake look like Perrier water.

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

My advice? Go with the 60 HP model, for all of the reasons the stealer
gave.

PS
If you are in salt water, forget the Mercury.

Probably 60% salt water
20% fresh
20% brackish (lower concentration than seawater but still a mixture
re lales affected by tides)
Don't the Mercurys hold up in salt water?

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 1:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:49:56 -0400, Oscar wrote:
Why are you fixated on aluminum boats?

===

I would imagine because of towing weight issues with the RAV-4.

Now, if i had a real tow vehicle I could probably get this down a bit
to the same price as the new 16 Xcalibur.
http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ385112304

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 9:32*am, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features* *scroll down to
full top.

I'd love to have a top like that for my 18 ft. ChrisCraft. All I can
find on the 'net is buggy tops.

ugh!

Mercury outboards
 

On Jun 6, 8:30*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jun 6, 9:32*am, North Star wrote:









On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcal...atures**scroll down to
full top.

I'd love to have a top like that for my 18 ft. ChrisCraft. All I can
find on the 'net is buggy tops.

ugh!

You could probably get one made up. Legend claims they are worth $1600.

Mercury outboards
 

North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:48 pm, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur
75 HP max seems low for a boat that size with a nice 82" beam. The
upgrade prices seem awfully high, too. Have you compared other boats?
Missed both local boatshows this winter/early spring but have talked
to the local Princecraft dealer and the Lund dealer.
I went out to the new Mirrocraft dealer but he only had a couple of
boats around at that time. They didn't look nearly as solid as the
Legend Gen X boats.
We seem to be a bit limited here with a small market... most dealers
keep a few boats around but will bring in anything you want if you put
some money down.
I probably should be smart and wait for the big boatshow in Toronto in
February.
That would be smart. The 2013's will be on display, too.

Mercury outboards
 

North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:07 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
If you are lugging the extra weight of a mid range 4 stroke around why
not buy the 60. The 50 is the same motor, throttled down by the
computer.
I am surprised they can even sell a 2 stroke these days.

I suppose you know that 4 stroke is a chinese motor.
No.. I didn't see that anywhere in the literature on Mercury motors.
Dealer says it would cost a lot to substitute for a Yamaha. Says he
used to carry both and didn't have problems with either model of
outboard.
The Legend people claim that they get a good deal from Mercury by
carrying their line exclusively.
The same is true at Bass Pro Shops. They are locked into Mercury
motors. I've had two and they were both great motors. Not a single
problem with many hours on the clock(s).

Mercury outboards
 

North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 12:16 am, wrote:
On Jun 5, 7:21 pm, North wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?
He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.
Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.
More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur
That's a swell looking boat, Don.
I may still opt for the little boat with a 40 hp 4 stroke that only
has a hull weight of 600 lbs.
I'll have to board it and see if it fits. The wife of course thinks
bigger is better.... she's a bit nervous on the water and really just
wants to invite her friends and workmates out for afternoon cruises
where I would rather tow to interesting places (bays, harbours and
lakes) that seem interesting.
As we used to say with trailerable sailboats... we can run upwind at
60 mph on the highway a lot faster than we could sail to various
sites.
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/allsport/summary
I think your wife has the right idea. You can buy a POS boat from
Craigslist if you just want to tow something around. You are buying a
boat to go boating!

Mercury outboards
 

Mercury outboards
 

North Star wrote:
On Jun 6, 6:56 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.
My advice? Go with the 60 HP model, for all of the reasons the stealer
gave.

PS
If you are in salt water, forget the Mercury.
Probably 60% salt water
20% fresh
20% brackish (lower concentration than seawater but still a mixture
re lales affected by tides)
Don't the Mercurys hold up in salt water?
Yes, they do.