On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:29:25 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:27:28 -0400, John H.
wrote:

If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us
believe.

It has rough days and calm days and in-between days. It is not, as has been suggested, continuously
in turmoil. Besides which, there are plenty of very nice, scenic, and calm rivers dumping into the
Chesapeake, many with little islands and/or boaters beaches which provide great areas for simple
relaxing.

Being in the middle of the bay with a 25mph breeze and 3' chop would be no fun for a family outing
in anything less than about a 34'er.

Some folks are naysayers, no matter what.

The problem I used to have with the bay was the expedition necessary
to load and trailer the boat down, launch the boat and then figure out
it was too rough to get much out of the break water.
If it is a bunch of guys fishing you will put up with more banging
around than a family trip with wives and kids.
We still decided 22' was about the minimum size for going out and not
getting the **** beat out of yourself on those unpredictable bouncy
days.
As long as you stick to the rivers you can have a small runabout and
on a calm day, poke around the bay but watch out for those afternoon
gusts kicking up.

In Chesapeake Beach is a bait shop (Tyler's). Those folks can look across the street and see how
rough the bay is. I've always been able to get good advice from them. There is also a big US flag
almost on the beach at the end of Chesapeake Beach Road (Hwy 260). If it's flying horizontally, then
it's too damn rough for a 21'er, or even a 25'er. If it's hanging real loose, then the bay is nice
and flat - maybe too calm...the big horse flies come out then.

On Mon, 14 May 2012 20:12:42 -0400, Earl wrote:

X ` Man wrote:
On 5/13/12 7:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:48:29 -0400, wrote:



We all have our own definitions of 'hard chop'. To me, 6" - 12"
wavelets are pretty calm. One- to
two-footers can be a little 'choppy', but are fine at a slower speed.
Don't know why 150-200 horses
is necessary. A good friend had a 24'er with a Honda 90 on the butt
end, and we did a whole lot of
pleasant fishing with that thing - in 2'-3' wave conditions. Pulled
lots of stripers into that boat.

Around here, hard chop refers less to the size of the peaks of waves
and more to the distances between the peaks. If the peaks are close
together, you get hard chop. If they are farther apart, you typically
don't, wave size being equal.

As for engine horsepower, you have what, an 18-footer with a 150 hp
four stroke engine?

Oh, and you don't actually get out on the Bay more than once a year,
do you?





Spoken like a true non-boater. You have issues, X-Man. Jealousy, envy,
whatever, but it is apparent that you don't boat and have chosen this to
be your dumping ground for your over-the-top political agenda. You seem
to forget that people who have boats are more likely to be educated and
can see through your strange rhetoric. Even your attempts at on-topic
posts are filled with unfounded advice. There are plenty of political
groups in Usenet, I'm sure. Have you been pushed out of them all?

I'm still of the opinion that 6" crests six feet apart are no worse than 6" crests one foot apart.

On May 21, 8:11*pm, John H. wrote:


....the big horse flies come out then.


Don't they make good fish bait?

On Mon, 21 May 2012 21:17:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I'm still of the opinion that 6" crests six feet apart are no worse than 6" crests one foot apart.

===

That's because 6 inches is small relative to the size of your boat.
Change the proportions to something like 4 feet 40 feet apart vs 4
feet 400 feet apart.

On Mon, 21 May 2012 19:40:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On May 21, 8:11*pm, John H. wrote:


...the big horse flies come out then.


Don't they make good fish bait?

Well, I suppose if you could get the chunk of your flesh out of their big, friggin' mouths and put
it on a hook you'd probably win a catfish contest.

But other than that -- NO.

On Mon, 21 May 2012 23:22:30 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 21 May 2012 21:17:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I'm still of the opinion that 6" crests six feet apart are no worse than 6" crests one foot apart.

===

That's because 6 inches is small relative to the size of your boat.
Change the proportions to something like 4 feet 40 feet apart vs 4
feet 400 feet apart.

True - but the original comment had to do with 6" to 12" wavelets. The Chesapeake, as I'm sure you
know, isn't quite big enough to get 4'ers 400' apart. When we get 4'ers there's a whole lot of wind
coming from somewhere, and I wouldn't have been out there with my 21'er. I've done it - but that's
'cause I got caught in a quick thunderstorm. Then the waves were higher than I could see over when I
was in a trough. Didn't have a GPS then, and was lucky the compass was working.