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On 5/5/12 12:13 AM, Califbill wrote:
-- Harry probably has not fished for big fish. You would be wrong, though I haven't done so in a long time. |
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 01:40:21 -0400, wrote:
On the other hand all of the salt water people I know are in the fillet and release club. === Absolutely. |
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On 5/4/2012 2:47 PM, wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:08:23 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 11:42:28 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. I do think it is funny that these avid fish hunters draw the line at killing a deer or a rabbit. Since I wrote the above, I take it you are talking about me. I catch and release. Maybe if we rigged an ear of corn with big treble hooks. snagged the deer, dragged the deer up to the truck with a winch, kicking and bleeding. Then put him, live, in an air tight box to slowly suffocate it would be OK. I catch and release. So if I just dragged the deer up to the truck, ripped the hooks out and let him stagger away, it would be OK. You do understand that a very significant number of "released" fish die from the experience? You are talking to the plum, what he knows has no bearing on what he says... Well, first of all, treated correctly, most fish do not die when caught and released. Secondly, if someone needs food, I'm all for the killing an animal for meat. Thirdly, fish do no have the same neuro network that animals have. |
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On 5/4/2012 3:54 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 5/4/12 3:47 PM, wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:17:34 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/4/12 2:52 PM, wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2012 13:31:00 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/4/12 1:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:39:56 -0400, X ` Man I don't do much fishing anymore. I do, however, think it is more sporting than hunting. There's nothing sporting about seeing an elk or a moose a few hundred yards away and then shooting it with a high powered rifle and scope. How is that any less "sporting" than sitting in the lounge of your sport fish, sipping a cold drink, waiting for a tuna to hit one of the ballyhoo you are trolling? The mate probably rigged the bait and struck the fish. All you did was reel it in. Well, it is less sporting because fishing for big pelagics is a lot more dangerous than shooting a moose or an elk, but I'm not a fan of that sort of "hunting," either. It is basically the same as the canned hunt you are talking about on a game ranch and I am not sure where the danger is ... unless the boat sinks. I wasn't making a comparison to a canned hunt but to "regular" hunting, and if you've never been aboard a boat targeting 500-pound fish, you have no idea of the dangers involved...that have nothing to do with the boat sinking. What dangers? We are not talking about Alaskan crab fishermen here. How many recreational fishermen are killed every year? (tossing out the ones who just get drunk and fall out of the boat) You mean, other than being pulled overboard by a fish, being bitten by a pelagic, falling and hitting your head, arm strain, neck strain, back strain, being impaled with large fish hooks, stabbed by knives, sun poisoning, and heatstroke, among other things? All of those injuries could happen walking through the woods, and dragging back a 1200 pound animal... dumb ass... Really? You're going to be bitten by a pelagic, and be impaled with a large fish hook in the woods??? |
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says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:50:50 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:26 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? Without the money hunters pump into the system you might actually come down to that single animal, starving to death and bringing on extinction. The animal lovers barely collect enough money to support their own bureaucracy and put virtually nothing into conservation efforts. The best example is the hunting ranches in Texas that hold the largest populations of endangered African animals on the planet. Without the incentive of allowing someone to shoot one now and then for outrageous amounts of money, they would simply go extinct. These ranchers ensure that there is always a healthy breeding population and suitable habitat for them. That is a lot more than the Africans are doing. I find it strange that the animal rights people would rather see an entire species go extinct than to allow them to be managed for profit. I wonder what our grand kids would say about that after the animals are gone forever. I know that in the imaginary utopia you lefties live in, animal lovers would buy and maintain millions of acres of pristine habitat for the animals to live in peace but the fact is, the animal lovers want someone else to pay for that. Those people are hunters. They do it via a surcharge on all hunting equipment, license fees, private club dues and direct payments to land owners for the right to hunt there. Well, kill 'em all then. You will if you shut down the hunting ranches where these exotics are raised. It is certain that the Africans are not going to save them. Right... No animal species on earth can survive without man killing them, huh? |
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