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On May 3, 1:54*pm, John H. wrote:
...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg That's dumb........the hunters could take out innocent people as they drive under the influence. |
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On Thu, 3 May 2012 12:07:02 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
On May 3, 1:54*pm, John H. wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg That's dumb........the hunters could take out innocent people as they drive under the influence. Wow, Don! That's quite perceptive. |
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On 5/3/12 4:50 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. I'd be impressed if the "hunters" preserved habitat and didn't kill the animals on it. |
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On 5/3/2012 1:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg There's a place in gawds kingdom for all animals; usually right next to my mashed potatoes. Still folks out there that would rather see the things slowly starve to death... |
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:44:24 -0400, X ` Man
wrote: On 5/3/12 4:50 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. I'd be impressed if the "hunters" preserved habitat and didn't kill the animals on it. I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Casady |
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On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:44:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 4:50 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. I'd be impressed if the "hunters" preserved habitat and didn't kill the animals on it. I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Casady Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. |
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On 5/3/2012 5:32 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote: I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. Elimination of their natural predators (wolves, cougars, etc.) is also significant. They tend to require more area and incur the wrath of farmers/ranchers. |
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 19:55:52 -0700, thumper wrote:
On 5/3/2012 5:32 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote: I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. Elimination of their natural predators (wolves, cougars, etc.) is also significant. They tend to require more area and incur the wrath of farmers/ranchers. They are found in the heart of Des Moines. Seen on the Capitol grounds. Casady |
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On 5/3/12 10:55 PM, thumper wrote:
On 5/3/2012 5:32 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote: I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. Elimination of their natural predators (wolves, cougars, etc.) is also significant. They tend to require more area and incur the wrath of farmers/ranchers. Certainly. |
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On 5/4/12 8:19 AM, BAR wrote:
cats are rodents in my book. Well, of course...you joined the marines instead of getting an edu-ma-ka-shun. |
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says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John H. wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! |
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On 5/3/2012 1:07 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg There's a place in gawds kingdom for all animals; usually right next to my mashed potatoes. Still folks out there that would rather see the things slowly starve to death... Makes you wonder how any animal species ever survived without man killing them in mass. |
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On 5/4/2012 8:19 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:32:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:44:24 -0400, X ` wrote: I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Casady Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. There are significantly more deer in the suburbs than there ever have been but the residents would not tolerate repopulating the predators necessary for natural control. It turns out white tail deer are very well adapted to suburban living. I have even seen them on the Whitehurst Freeway in downtown DC. Can you imagine the howl people would put up if we dumped a couple dozen cougars around the beltway and in Rock Creek Park? I doubt they would even tolerate that down in rural Calvert County. (yet they did it near where I live here in SW Florida) The fox take care of the rodent population, cats are rodents in my book. This is the Gods honest truth. I watched a fox chase a cat and tree him/her, in my back yard. After a period of time, 15-30 minutes as I recall, with the fox still patiently waiting at the base of the tree, the cat climbed down the tree, swatted the fox in the nose, and ran off. The bewildered fox didn't give chase. |
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On 5/4/2012 8:31 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/4/12 8:19 AM, BAR wrote: cats are rodents in my book. Well, of course...you joined the marines instead of getting an edu-ma-ka-shun. Why you dirty rat! |
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On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... |
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On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. |
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On 5/4/2012 11:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker |
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On 5/4/12 11:50 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/4/2012 11:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker It takes a really brave man to shoot a deer. It's so...sporting. |
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In article , says...
On 5/4/2012 11:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? |
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On 5/4/12 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 06:36:50 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/4/12 1:02 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:32:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:44:24 -0400, X ` wrote: I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Casady Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. There are significantly more deer in the suburbs than there ever have been but the residents would not tolerate repopulating the predators necessary for natural control. It turns out white tail deer are very well adapted to suburban living. I have even seen them on the Whitehurst Freeway in downtown DC. Can you imagine the howl people would put up if we dumped a couple dozen cougars around the beltway and in Rock Creek Park? I doubt they would even tolerate that down in rural Calvert County. (yet they did it near where I live here in SW Florida) A few thousand cougars running loose in Florida could only improve the quality of life for everyone in that state. There are about 120-150 here. We should do the same in Maryland and DC. SW Florida also has a pretty healthy black bear population. They had one living in downtown Ft Myers for several weeks and FWS said they couldn't find it, in spite of cell phone videos showing up on the evening news every couple days. Maybe we should plant a few dozen of them in Rock Creek park too. The dumpsters down town would make them pretty fat. It would give the rats and raccoons some competition. No argument from me, though we already have bears in Maryland. In fact, for a long time I've thought we had a few of them in the woods around here. There have been reports from time to time of cougars in the state. |
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On 5/4/12 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 09:36:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Yes it does. The species is managed to insure there are plenty of them to shoot. Hunters do a lot more than the animal lobby to actually support the habitat. Is Fox News managing the species of crazy conservatives to ensure there are plenty of them to shoot? |
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m... On 5/3/12 8:25 PM, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:44:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 4:50 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. I'd be impressed if the "hunters" preserved habitat and didn't kill the animals on it. I live just outside Des Moines, and the local deer are so numerous as to be catagorized as vermin. I lost an auto to one. They cross my lawn on a daily basis. It would be great if hunters would kill vast numbers of them. Casady Typically, the problem you describe is the result of man encroaching on the natural habit of woodland critters and decimating it. So, we take away the land on which critters live, eat, and breathe, and then we shoot them. ----------------------------------------------- This is more the result of man killing the predators and then growing great food crops for the deer. A lot more deer than the natural world would support. |
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On 5/4/12 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 11:42:28 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. I do think it is funny that these avid fish hunters draw the line at killing a deer or a rabbit. Maybe if we rigged an ear of corn with big treble hooks. snagged the deer, dragged the deer up to the truck with a winch, kicking and bleeding. Then put him, live, in an air tight box to slowly suffocate it would be OK. I won't even talk about what fishermen do to the bait. That is down right medieval. I have some issues with "sport hunters," the most significant probably being their referencing what they do as "sport," implying there is something "sporting" about shooting animals with a firearm. I don't do much fishing anymore. I do, however, think it is more sporting than hunting. There's nothing sporting about seeing an elk or a moose a few hundred yards away and then shooting it with a high powered rifle and scope. |
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In article ,
says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 11:42:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. I do think it is funny that these avid fish hunters draw the line at killing a deer or a rabbit. Since I wrote the above, I take it you are talking about me. I catch and release. Maybe if we rigged an ear of corn with big treble hooks. snagged the deer, dragged the deer up to the truck with a winch, kicking and bleeding. Then put him, live, in an air tight box to slowly suffocate it would be OK. I catch and release. I won't even talk about what fishermen do to the bait. That is down right medieval. I know! Those rubber worms and Rapalas that I use are SO abused..... |
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says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 11:42:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. I do think it is funny that these avid fish hunters draw the line at killing a deer or a rabbit. Maybe if we rigged an ear of corn with big treble hooks. snagged the deer, dragged the deer up to the truck with a winch, kicking and bleeding. Then put him, live, in an air tight box to slowly suffocate it would be OK. I won't even talk about what fishermen do to the bait. That is down right medieval. Also, I don't mind hunting for food if you need food. |
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In article ,
says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:26 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 5/4/2012 11:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? We do it all the time. It is called war. The US has killed about a million brown people, either directly or by proxy, since 1991(Iraq, Afghanistan and any number of smaller little skirmishes). So we should be able to go take a hunter's safety course, pay a license fee and start killing people for sport? |
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On 5/4/12 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:39:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/4/12 12:25 PM, wrote: Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. I do think it is funny that these avid fish hunters draw the line at killing a deer or a rabbit. Maybe if we rigged an ear of corn with big treble hooks. snagged the deer, dragged the deer up to the truck with a winch, kicking and bleeding. Then put him, live, in an air tight box to slowly suffocate it would be OK. I won't even talk about what fishermen do to the bait. That is down right medieval. I have some issues with "sport hunters," the most significant probably being their referencing what they do as "sport," implying there is something "sporting" about shooting animals with a firearm. I don't do much fishing anymore. I do, however, think it is more sporting than hunting. There's nothing sporting about seeing an elk or a moose a few hundred yards away and then shooting it with a high powered rifle and scope. How is that any less "sporting" than sitting in the lounge of your sport fish, sipping a cold drink, waiting for a tuna to hit one of the ballyhoo you are trolling? The mate probably rigged the bait and struck the fish. All you did was reel it in. Well, it is less sporting because fishing for big pelagics is a lot more dangerous than shooting a moose or an elk, but I'm not a fan of that sort of "hunting," either. |
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says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:26 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? Without the money hunters pump into the system you might actually come down to that single animal, starving to death and bringing on extinction. The animal lovers barely collect enough money to support their own bureaucracy and put virtually nothing into conservation efforts. The best example is the hunting ranches in Texas that hold the largest populations of endangered African animals on the planet. Without the incentive of allowing someone to shoot one now and then for outrageous amounts of money, they would simply go extinct. These ranchers ensure that there is always a healthy breeding population and suitable habitat for them. That is a lot more than the Africans are doing. I find it strange that the animal rights people would rather see an entire species go extinct than to allow them to be managed for profit. I wonder what our grand kids would say about that after the animals are gone forever. I know that in the imaginary utopia you lefties live in, animal lovers would buy and maintain millions of acres of pristine habitat for the animals to live in peace but the fact is, the animal lovers want someone else to pay for that. Those people are hunters. They do it via a surcharge on all hunting equipment, license fees, private club dues and direct payments to land owners for the right to hunt there. Well, kill 'em all then. |
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On Fri, 04 May 2012 13:09:14 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:39:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/4/12 12:25 PM, wrote: Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. I do think it is funny that these avid fish hunters draw the line at killing a deer or a rabbit. Maybe if we rigged an ear of corn with big treble hooks. snagged the deer, dragged the deer up to the truck with a winch, kicking and bleeding. Then put him, live, in an air tight box to slowly suffocate it would be OK. I won't even talk about what fishermen do to the bait. That is down right medieval. I have some issues with "sport hunters," the most significant probably being their referencing what they do as "sport," implying there is something "sporting" about shooting animals with a firearm. I don't do much fishing anymore. I do, however, think it is more sporting than hunting. There's nothing sporting about seeing an elk or a moose a few hundred yards away and then shooting it with a high powered rifle and scope. How is that any less "sporting" than sitting in the lounge of your sport fish, sipping a cold drink, waiting for a tuna to hit one of the ballyhoo you are trolling? The mate probably rigged the bait and struck the fish. All you did was reel it in. LOL! |
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On 5/4/12 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 13:31:00 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/4/12 1:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:39:56 -0400, X ` Man I don't do much fishing anymore. I do, however, think it is more sporting than hunting. There's nothing sporting about seeing an elk or a moose a few hundred yards away and then shooting it with a high powered rifle and scope. How is that any less "sporting" than sitting in the lounge of your sport fish, sipping a cold drink, waiting for a tuna to hit one of the ballyhoo you are trolling? The mate probably rigged the bait and struck the fish. All you did was reel it in. Well, it is less sporting because fishing for big pelagics is a lot more dangerous than shooting a moose or an elk, but I'm not a fan of that sort of "hunting," either. It is basically the same as the canned hunt you are talking about on a game ranch and I am not sure where the danger is ... unless the boat sinks. I wasn't making a comparison to a canned hunt but to "regular" hunting, and if you've never been aboard a boat targeting 500-pound fish, you have no idea of the dangers involved...that have nothing to do with the boat sinking. |
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On 5/4/12 2:54 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:50:50 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:26 -0400, wrote: In , says... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers...snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? Without the money hunters pump into the system you might actually come down to that single animal, starving to death and bringing on extinction. The animal lovers barely collect enough money to support their own bureaucracy and put virtually nothing into conservation efforts. The best example is the hunting ranches in Texas that hold the largest populations of endangered African animals on the planet. Without the incentive of allowing someone to shoot one now and then for outrageous amounts of money, they would simply go extinct. These ranchers ensure that there is always a healthy breeding population and suitable habitat for them. That is a lot more than the Africans are doing. I find it strange that the animal rights people would rather see an entire species go extinct than to allow them to be managed for profit. I wonder what our grand kids would say about that after the animals are gone forever. I know that in the imaginary utopia you lefties live in, animal lovers would buy and maintain millions of acres of pristine habitat for the animals to live in peace but the fact is, the animal lovers want someone else to pay for that. Those people are hunters. They do it via a surcharge on all hunting equipment, license fees, private club dues and direct payments to land owners for the right to hunt there. Well, kill 'em all then. You will if you shut down the hunting ranches where these exotics are raised. It is certain that the Africans are not going to save them. I suppose to pseudo machomen, "canned" hunting is real. |
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On 5/4/2012 12:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/4/12 11:50 AM, JustWait wrote: On 5/4/2012 11:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers... snicker It takes a really brave man to shoot a deer. It's so...sporting. I remember when Harriet was bragging about catching fish, ripping their face apart and then throwing them back to be eaten by a larger fish. Quite the sportsman, that Krause dude. |
For animal lovers...
On 5/4/2012 1:10 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:26 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 11:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 5/4/2012 9:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:54:44 -0400, John wrote: ...and those who find hunters despicable. http://dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/animals.jpg More species are saved by hunters than all the PETA and "save the animals" kooks combined. Hunters put their money where their mouth is and they actually do things to preserve habitat and encourage species survival. They don't just whine about it. BTW I don't hunt. Yeah, killing animals saves them. Got it! Finally... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers...snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? We do it all the time. It is called war. The US has killed about a million brown people, either directly or by proxy, since 1991(Iraq, Afghanistan and any number of smaller little skirmishes). So we should be able to go take a hunter's safety course, pay a license fee and start killing people for sport? How did your pea-brain come to that conclusion? |
For animal lovers...
On 5/4/12 3:44 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:24:53 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/4/12 2:54 PM, wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:50:50 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:26 -0400, wrote: In , says... Well it figures that you'd think that killing an animal is saving it. Figures you would bring it down to the single animal level to make a point, when the conversation is about hunting in general... Frekin' engineers...snicker What engineers came up with the notion that hunting in general is a good thing? But, it DOES come down to the single animal. It's that simple. I guess, that because of overpopulation of humans on the earth, then you should be okay with killing off people, abortion, etc. right? Without the money hunters pump into the system you might actually come down to that single animal, starving to death and bringing on extinction. The animal lovers barely collect enough money to support their own bureaucracy and put virtually nothing into conservation efforts. The best example is the hunting ranches in Texas that hold the largest populations of endangered African animals on the planet. Without the incentive of allowing someone to shoot one now and then for outrageous amounts of money, they would simply go extinct. These ranchers ensure that there is always a healthy breeding population and suitable habitat for them. That is a lot more than the Africans are doing. I find it strange that the animal rights people would rather see an entire species go extinct than to allow them to be managed for profit. I wonder what our grand kids would say about that after the animals are gone forever. I know that in the imaginary utopia you lefties live in, animal lovers would buy and maintain millions of acres of pristine habitat for the animals to live in peace but the fact is, the animal lovers want someone else to pay for that. Those people are hunters. They do it via a surcharge on all hunting equipment, license fees, private club dues and direct payments to land owners for the right to hunt there. Well, kill 'em all then. You will if you shut down the hunting ranches where these exotics are raised. It is certain that the Africans are not going to save them. I suppose to pseudo machomen, "canned" hunting is real. I am not a fan of canned hunts but I am more opposed to extinction. In fact most of these exotic hunts do not guarantee that the hunter actually gets anything. You mean, they let the animals out of their pens for the "hunt"? :) |
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