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iBoaterer[_2_] May 2nd 12 07:48 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, thumper wrote:

On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
lid says...

On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM,
wrote:

In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that
Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed.

What a stupid law.

You are supposed to die as all good victims should.


I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago.
If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a
few needless deaths.


The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of
these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your
head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching
them)


You don't know if that's what happened.

I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big
city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a
report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it.


As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......

Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.


If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of
Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time.



Wayne B May 3rd 12 03:43 AM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......



....and his fists.


thumper May 3rd 12 05:04 AM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/2/2012 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, wrote:

On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
lid says...

On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM,
wrote:

In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that
Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed.

What a stupid law.

You are supposed to die as all good victims should.


I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago.
If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a
few needless deaths.



The real question is whether there was an imminent threat.


You just said it was "only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed."

How many of
these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your
head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching
them)

I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big
city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a
report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it.

Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that.


I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder.

If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.


Who cares...?

thumper May 3rd 12 06:35 AM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/2/2012 9:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 21:04:00 -0700, wrote:


I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder.


The state still has not proved that is what happened


Understood and agreed to.

X ` Man May 3rd 12 11:29 AM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/2/12 10:43 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote:

As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......



...and his fists.


Wayne's advice? Never bring fists to a gunfight.

X ` Man May 3rd 12 11:33 AM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote:

If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.


Who cares...?


Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy.


What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home
invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street,
no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh,
and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in
Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The
same is not true in Maryland.

X ` Man May 3rd 12 11:38 AM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/2/12 3:42 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote:

The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of
these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your
head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching
them)


You don't know if that's what happened.


As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not
what happened either.
Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin
would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope)


I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big
city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a
report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it.


As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......


You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed
in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year
I could find data for)



Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.


If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of
Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time.


Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC
It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando.
Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen.
It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels.


Orlando has a large (for non-Miami Florida) downtown area, and many,
many suburbs, *and* lots of theme parks and hotels. Sanford used to be
redneck/crackerville, and it is still not much more than a dumpy little
place along I-4 at Lake Monroe. There's no reason to stop there unless
you need gas for the car or you have to pee or you are getting off or on
the autotrain, assuming the autotrain is still running.

John H.[_5_] May 3rd 12 12:30 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On Thu, 03 May 2012 00:59:16 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2012 21:04:00 -0700, thumper wrote:

On 5/2/2012 10:50 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, wrote:

On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
lid says...

On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM,
wrote:

In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that
Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed.

What a stupid law.

You are supposed to die as all good victims should.

I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago.
If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a
few needless deaths.


The real question is whether there was an imminent threat.


You just said it was "only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed."


There is nothing more imminent that an attack in progress.

How many of
these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your
head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching
them)

I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big
city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a
report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it.

Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that.


I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder.


The state still has not proved that is what happened


If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.


Who cares...?


Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy.



BAR[_2_] May 3rd 12 01:20 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article , lid says...

On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
lid says...

On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM,
wrote:

In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that
Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed.

What a stupid law.


You are supposed to die as all good victims should.


I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago.
If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a
few needless deaths.


Yet you had to feel fear of harm many times, why?

iBoaterer[_2_] May 3rd 12 01:40 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of
these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your
head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching
them)


You don't know if that's what happened.


As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not
what happened either.
Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin
would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope)


That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so
hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like
Zimmerman would attack someone?


I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big
city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a
report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it.


As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......


You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed
in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year
I could find data for)


As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles......



Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.


If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of
Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time.


Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC
It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando.
Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen.
It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels.


Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/

As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante
who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if
Sanford is such an idyllic place?




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