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X ` Man[_3_] May 3rd 12 06:03 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/3/12 12:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 5/3/12 10:38 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 5/3/12 12:59 AM,
wrote:

If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.

Who cares...?

Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home
invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street,
no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh,
and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in
Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The
same is not true in Maryland.

Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and
maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being
attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when
you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is
ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit.

I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in
Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem
was always a lack of a compelling need.



I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me.


That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with
New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact
Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not
issue".

What was your "compelling need"?


I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one.


John H.[_5_] May 3rd 12 06:03 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:05:33 -0400, Oscar wrote:

On 5/3/2012 10:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:41:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote:

As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......


...and his fists.

And you have proof of this, I take it?

===

Someone does. There were witnesses to the scuffle.


That doesn't mean there is real evidence.

Without reel ev-e-dense there is no case.


I couldn't believe Kevin actually wrote, "That doesn't meant there is real evidence." There are
liberals out there urging the revenge killing of Zimmerman - with no real evidence.

What a hoot.

OK, I'll butt out now.

iBoaterer[_2_] May 3rd 12 09:08 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 5/3/12 10:38 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 5/3/12 12:59 AM,
wrote:

If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.

Who cares...?

Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home
invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street,
no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh,
and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in
Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The
same is not true in Maryland.

Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and
maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being
attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when
you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is
ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit.

I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in
Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem
was always a lack of a compelling need.



I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me.


That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with
New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact
Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not
issue".

What was your "compelling need"?


Hey, Harry was never one to let facts get in the way of a good tale
about himself!!

iBoaterer[_2_] May 3rd 12 09:08 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 5/3/12 12:53 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 5/3/12 10:38 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 5/3/12 12:59 AM,
wrote:

If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.

Who cares...?

Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home
invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street,
no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh,
and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in
Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The
same is not true in Maryland.

Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and
maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being
attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when
you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is
ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit.

I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in
Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem
was always a lack of a compelling need.


I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me.


That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with
New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact
Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not
issue".

What was your "compelling need"?


I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one.


Once more, what was your "compelling need"?

iBoaterer[_2_] May 3rd 12 09:14 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:05:33 -0400, Oscar wrote:

On 5/3/2012 10:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:41:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote:

As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles.......


...and his fists.

And you have proof of this, I take it?

===

Someone does. There were witnesses to the scuffle.

That doesn't mean there is real evidence.

Without reel ev-e-dense there is no case.


I couldn't believe Kevin actually wrote, "That doesn't meant there is real evidence." There are
liberals out there urging the revenge killing of Zimmerman - with no real evidence.

What a hoot.

OK, I'll butt out now.


And here's John, who tries SO hard to portray himself as so high on a
pedestal that he'd never resort of off topic posting or name calling or
insulting. Oh, wait..... And just what liberals are "urging revenge
killing of Zimmerman"?

iBoaterer[_2_] May 3rd 12 09:17 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 3 May 2012 12:04:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


Now it is a huge ******** with the main industry being the fleecing of
tourists, either at a theme park or in a conventional robbery. If I am
going north, I go up 301, just to miss Orlando.


Gee, you sound bitter! Don't care for free enterprise, huh? 301? Hey,
that means you get to visit such lovely cities as Ocala to avoid that
awful Orlando....


Your geography knowledge is as bad as your understanding of Florida
law.
Why would anyone go through Ocala when I-75 bypasses it, miles to the
west?
I cut over on 326 above Ocala.
On the other hand I-4 is the main commuter route, right through the
middle of Orlando (basically right next to all of the theme parks).


Uh, YOU said "301". Did you mean U.S. Hwy 301? It goes right through the
middle of Ocala.

You are simply pointing out why Zimmerman had a right to be afraid of
a thug like Martin.


And you seem to know Martin was a "thug" how? What about the FACTS that
Zimmerman has a violent past? Does Martin? No.


Zimmerman got into an argument with a cop. So what? The charges were
expunged. Even the court understood it was bull****. He does not have
a criminal record.


No, he was arrested for resisting arrest WITH VIOLENCE.

We still have not heard much about Martin. I bet that once the kids in
his high school start talking we will find out this guy was not the
angel he was propped up as. He was suspended 3 times (once for drugs
and once for vandalism) and was kicked out of school the night he was
shot for truancy. That was why he was in Sanford and not Miami. I
imagine his mom was just done with him and sent him to live with dad
for a while.
That sounds like a thug to me. Once they tracked down the jewelry they
found in his backpack he probably would have had a record.

Dad didn't even miss him for 8 hours and I am not sure what they were
doing that they didn't hear the gunshot, the cops and the EMTs right
outside their door for an hour or more. It is probably the old adage,
follow a druggie home and another druggie will open the door.
Somebody sobered up around 3AM and noticed Trayvon wasn't home yet.


Oh, man, you're getting as unhinged as Scotty!!!! Now you've get Martin
as a through and through drug addict and his whole family too!!!
Insane!!!



Oscar May 3rd 12 10:13 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/3/2012 4:08 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlevqqdncQoc9fWJz_SnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 5/3/12 12:53 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 5/3/12 10:38 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 5/3/12 12:59 AM,
wrote:

If
Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it.
All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland.
I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the
application was.

Who cares...?

Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home
invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street,
no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh,
and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in
Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The
same is not true in Maryland.

Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and
maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being
attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when
you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is
ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit.

I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in
Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem
was always a lack of a compelling need.


I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me.

That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with
New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact
Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not
issue".

What was your "compelling need"?


I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one.


Once more, what was your "compelling need"?


Here's one case where you SHOULD press for an honest answer.

Wayne B May 3rd 12 10:47 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On Thu, 03 May 2012 17:02:01 -0400, wrote:

If I had never heard of anyone who tried to get a Md CCW I might
believe you but I know a lot of people who were refused, everyone I
know who tried.
Some of these people already had BATF machine gun stamps and a few had
very high security clearances. It wasn't the background check. The
issue was always "need".


========

If you had credible evidence that threats had been made on your life
that would probably satisfy the "need" test, so the real question is
who would do such a thing and why.

You might start by doing a Google search for "Ullico scandal" and what
our hero's role was in all that. Of course it's possible that he
could have mailed the dead fish and love letter himself.


X ` Man[_3_] May 3rd 12 10:49 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/3/12 5:02 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 13:03:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me.

That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with
New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact
Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not
issue".

What was your "compelling need"?


I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one.


You still never said what the compelling need you used on the
application and the one you use on the renewals.


That's right; I haven't.

X ` Man May 3rd 12 11:02 PM

The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
 
On 5/3/12 5:47 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 17:02:01 -0400, wrote:

If I had never heard of anyone who tried to get a Md CCW I might
believe you but I know a lot of people who were refused, everyone I
know who tried.
Some of these people already had BATF machine gun stamps and a few had
very high security clearances. It wasn't the background check. The
issue was always "need".


========

If you had credible evidence that threats had been made on your life
that would probably satisfy the "need" test, so the real question is
who would do such a thing and why.

You might start by doing a Google search for "Ullico scandal" and what
our hero's role was in all that. Of course it's possible that he
could have mailed the dead fish and love letter himself.



D'oh. And yet another example of W'hine playing the "Do as I say, not as
I do" game. No individual lost a penny in that debacle, no pensioner
lost a dime of pension, no survivor lost a penny of insurance payment
and, of course, I was retained by the group that eventually took over
the company and cleaned house.

Other than that, you're your usual unknowledgeable self.


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