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On 4/12/12 1:41 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` wrote: Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to "defend" them. I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects (schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail. The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack of evidence. This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it benefits. It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those trials cost a boat load of money too. We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot more than they have announced, it is squat. The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled. Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as well. How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money, where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial, just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those trials also cost money. Zimmerman might be in a good spot. Let the zealots charge and try him. Once he walks sue the Florida government for political persecution. A good lawyer could make it happen. Your knowledge of the legal system is...entirely not there. |
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` wrote: Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to "defend" them. I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects (schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail. The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack of evidence. This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it benefits. It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those trials cost a boat load of money too. We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot more than they have announced, it is squat. The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled. Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as well. How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money, where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial, just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those trials also cost money. Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a case. This is politics, pure and simple. You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California. All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the legality of how he got into the situation. That last statement is not precisely as you claim. If he precipitated the events and then went after the kid...stand your ground may not apply. |
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On 12/04/2012 2:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` wrote: Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to "defend" them. I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects (schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail. The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack of evidence. This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it benefits. It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those trials cost a boat load of money too. We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot more than they have announced, it is squat. The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled. Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as well. How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money, where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial, just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those trials also cost money. Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a case. This is politics, pure and simple. You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California. All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the legality of how he got into the situation. That last statement is not precisely as you claim. If he precipitated the events and then went after the kid...stand your ground may not apply. Stand your ground or self defense. I wish the idiots who think you should lay down and take a beating from a punk should hear themselves think. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
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On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` wrote: Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to "defend" them. I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects (schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail. The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack of evidence. This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it benefits. It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those trials cost a boat load of money too. We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot more than they have announced, it is squat. The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled. Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as well. How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money, where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial, just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those trials also cost money. Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a case. This is politics, pure and simple. You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California. All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the legality of how he got into the situation. I really think the SP plans to lose this case, just for ammunition to attack the law. Maybe they should just propose SYG as a constitutional amendment and let the voters decide. They did it with pregnant pigs and gill nets so it would not be the dumbest thing that was proposed tor amendment status. It seems pretty clear that Zimmerman was following Martin as the latter walked to the house in the subdivision where his dad was staying, and that Zimmerman confronted Martin, and that Zimmerman apparently went back to his car where his gun was stashed, and that Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher to remain in his car and that he didn't. I'm not that familiar with florida's insane stand your ground statute, but it seems to me that Zimmerman instigated a confrontation. From the beginning, Martin was under no obligation to respond to Zimmerman's apparent interrogation. If I were walking through a neighborhood and some moron adult starting questioning me, I'd think the guy was a nut case and I'd start walking faster, figuring the guy was trying to start a fight or worse. That stand your ground bull**** law needs to be modified. |
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In article , lid says...
On 4/13/2012 10:12 AM, wrote: The police DISPATCHER (not a real officer) just said "we don't NEED you to do that" which only says he was not being told he was being asked to follow Martin, not that he couldn't. I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. The fact is that the dispatcher said what the dispatcher said. The policy and procedure manual for the 911 operators will be reviewed and analyzed. Your interpretation is your interpretation and it is made with the luxury of time and safety. |
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On 4/13/2012 10:42 PM, thumper wrote:
On 4/13/2012 10:12 AM, wrote: The police DISPATCHER (not a real officer) just said "we don't NEED you to do that" which only says he was not being told he was being asked to follow Martin, not that he couldn't. I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. And as far as we all know, he didn't... he turned to go back to his car and was jumped. |
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In article , says...
On 4/13/2012 10:42 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/13/2012 10:12 AM, wrote: The police DISPATCHER (not a real officer) just said "we don't NEED you to do that" which only says he was not being told he was being asked to follow Martin, not that he couldn't. I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. And as far as we all know, he didn't... he turned to go back to his car and was jumped. How do you "know" that? |
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