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On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Canuck57[_9_]

On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?
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other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

Canuck57[_9_]

On 12/04/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X `
wrote:

Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to
"defend" them.

I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last
night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and
they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as
well.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money,
where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial,
just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those
trials also cost money.

Zimmerman might be in a good spot. Let the zealots charge and try him.
Once he walks sue the Florida government for political persecution. A
good lawyer could make it happen.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

X ` Man[_3_]

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

X ` Man

On 4/12/12 1:41 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X `
wrote:

Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He
once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need
you to
"defend" them.

I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove.
So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last
night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and
they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as
well.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money,
where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial,
just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those
trials also cost money.

Zimmerman might be in a good spot. Let the zealots charge and try him.
Once he walks sue the Florida government for political persecution. A
good lawyer could make it happen.

Your knowledge of the legal system is...entirely not there.

Oscar

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

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X ` Man[_3_]

On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X `
wrote:

Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to
"defend" them.

I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last
night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and
they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as
well.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money,
where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial,
just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those
trials also cost money.

Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a
case. This is politics, pure and simple.
You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not
what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California.
All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily
harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the
legality of how he got into the situation.

That last statement is not precisely as you claim. If he precipitated
the events and then went after the kid...stand your ground may not apply.

X ` Man[_3_]

On 4/12/12 4:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:30:14 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Not in your state. I know a guy who did 7 years on Md for killing an
intruder in his home ... with his bare hands.
The state argued that if he had a chance to fight, he had a chance to
escape.

The laws here are not fixed in concrete.

X ` Man[_3_]

On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

B. Zimmerman would have no knowledge of that.

X ` Man[_3_]

On 4/12/12 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Actually, it was a modest effort.

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