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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/20/2012 4:18 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/20/2012 2:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 1:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... I couldn't, I'm employed. So.... Zimmerman's arrest record to you isn't relative, but Martin, who allegedly got into a little school trouble, but has NO arrest record is a thug who deserved to be shot by an ill tempered vigilante? Got it. When did I even mention Martin, you lying asshole? I think you misjudged Iboatererer. He reaLLY is STUPID. Yup... |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/20/2012 3:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 1:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 12:19 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/20/12 11:55 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... That may be your reality, but the "real" reality is different: (CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. - A judge has granted bail for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but would not allow his release Friday, citing further discussions needed about the terms, including whether or not he would be allowed out of state. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester also said that Zimmerman must not have any contact with the victim's family; must wear an ankle monitoring bracelet; and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. The judge's order also states that Zimmerman cannot be in possession of firearms; and must not consume alcohol or controlled substances. Taking the stand during the hearing at the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, Zimmerman addressed the parents of Martin, who were seated in court: "I wanted to say that I am sorry for the loss of your son. "I did not know how old he was," he said. "I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know whether he was armed or not." Zimmerman said he had made a similar statement to police. "I was told not to communicate with them," he said. "I did ask [my attorneys] to express that to them." I would caution anyone reading harrys edited, out of context, and cherry picked statements to go on line and listen to what the judge said, another words, watch the whole hearing so you can have it all in context. I already know harry and plum won't do that, or won't care so we can pretty much dismiss anything they say here about it... :) Gee, because he was granted bail (with an ankle bracelet, I might add) means he's innocent, right? Nope, that would be a silly assumption, only made by an irrational person with an agenda.. I am particularly talking about the part where the Judge address Zimmerman's past record. I will let you do your own research.. Come back when you have. What does it matter? MY point, which you fail miserably to understand is that you and other FOXites dredged up Martin's past (he's never been arrested, by the way) but then don't want to bring Zimmerman's past (he HAS been arrested several times) into it. Funny huh? My whole post was about Zimmermans past, as interpreted in a court of law, by a judge... I said nothing about Martin, period. If I thought you were really that stupid, that would be one thing, but you are not. You are just being an asshole. Oh, but in the past you've stated right here in rec.boats that Martin had a shady past. So, I'll make it very easy for you to understand (hopefully you will). #1. Of the two, which one has been arrested three times, two of which were violent crimes? #2. Which of the two has NO arrest record? |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/20/2012 3:12 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 1:00 PM, wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2012 11:24:22 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Again, *you* don't know exactly what was done, so conjecture. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? That's not in evidence. The only statement we have at this time says that Martin approached Zimmerman, and initiated contact. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? Because charges are filed on someone you think that they've actually done something? So everyone that's ever been charged is automatically guilty? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? You just saw it. They published something that they had to later correct with a "note" after it was pointed out to them. Half-assed journalism. Some would even say very FOX-like, eh? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. I've said nearly nothing about Martin. You, on the other hand, have tried Zimmerman and found him guilty based on little knowledge of the facts and some crappy news articles you hand-picked. Fact is, and my point... you just don't know. Most of your so-called "facts" are only your opinion, and are based on error-filled, biased articles. You're just a different version of your hypothetical FOX viewer. Some crappy writer with a bias told you to think that. I'm done. Me too, for the same reasons. He is the one who has already made up his mind... Yeah, let's not forget who the first person to bring race into it right here was, and let's not forget about those that spewed about a "black attitude" and let's not forget that you want to bring Martin's past into this but not Zimmermans. Now just whose mind is made up? You are retarded... Which of the above do you disagree with and why? |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/20/2012 4:18 PM, Oscar wrote: On 4/20/2012 2:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 1:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... I couldn't, I'm employed. So.... Zimmerman's arrest record to you isn't relative, but Martin, who allegedly got into a little school trouble, but has NO arrest record is a thug who deserved to be shot by an ill tempered vigilante? Got it. When did I even mention Martin, you lying asshole? I think you misjudged Iboatererer. He reaLLY is STUPID. Yup... That's funny coming from a FOX sheeple like you. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/21/2012 9:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/20/2012 3:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 1:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 12:19 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/20/12 11:55 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... That may be your reality, but the "real" reality is different: (CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. - A judge has granted bail for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but would not allow his release Friday, citing further discussions needed about the terms, including whether or not he would be allowed out of state. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester also said that Zimmerman must not have any contact with the victim's family; must wear an ankle monitoring bracelet; and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. The judge's order also states that Zimmerman cannot be in possession of firearms; and must not consume alcohol or controlled substances. Taking the stand during the hearing at the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, Zimmerman addressed the parents of Martin, who were seated in court: "I wanted to say that I am sorry for the loss of your son. "I did not know how old he was," he said. "I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know whether he was armed or not." Zimmerman said he had made a similar statement to police. "I was told not to communicate with them," he said. "I did ask [my attorneys] to express that to them." I would caution anyone reading harrys edited, out of context, and cherry picked statements to go on line and listen to what the judge said, another words, watch the whole hearing so you can have it all in context. I already know harry and plum won't do that, or won't care so we can pretty much dismiss anything they say here about it... :) Gee, because he was granted bail (with an ankle bracelet, I might add) means he's innocent, right? Nope, that would be a silly assumption, only made by an irrational person with an agenda.. I am particularly talking about the part where the Judge address Zimmerman's past record. I will let you do your own research.. Come back when you have. What does it matter? MY point, which you fail miserably to understand is that you and other FOXites dredged up Martin's past (he's never been arrested, by the way) but then don't want to bring Zimmerman's past (he HAS been arrested several times) into it. Funny huh? My whole post was about Zimmermans past, as interpreted in a court of law, by a judge... I said nothing about Martin, period. If I thought you were really that stupid, that would be one thing, but you are not. You are just being an asshole. Oh, but in the past you've stated right here in rec.boats that Martin had a shady past. So, I'll make it very easy for you to understand (hopefully you will). #1. Of the two, which one has been arrested three times, two of which were violent crimes? #2. Which of the two has NO arrest record? Who cares? One version of the story has all three charges arising out of the same incident. I don't know the truth of the matter, do you? |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/21/2012 9:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/20/2012 4:18 PM, Oscar wrote: On 4/20/2012 2:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 1:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... I couldn't, I'm employed. So.... Zimmerman's arrest record to you isn't relative, but Martin, who allegedly got into a little school trouble, but has NO arrest record is a thug who deserved to be shot by an ill tempered vigilante? Got it. When did I even mention Martin, you lying asshole? I think you misjudged Iboatererer. He reaLLY is STUPID. Yup... That's funny coming from a FOX sheeple like you. What's so funny about "yup..."? Are you retarded as well? |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/21/2012 9:32 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/21/2012 9:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 3:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 1:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 12:19 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/20/12 11:55 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... That may be your reality, but the "real" reality is different: (CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. - A judge has granted bail for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but would not allow his release Friday, citing further discussions needed about the terms, including whether or not he would be allowed out of state. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester also said that Zimmerman must not have any contact with the victim's family; must wear an ankle monitoring bracelet; and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. The judge's order also states that Zimmerman cannot be in possession of firearms; and must not consume alcohol or controlled substances. Taking the stand during the hearing at the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, Zimmerman addressed the parents of Martin, who were seated in court: "I wanted to say that I am sorry for the loss of your son. "I did not know how old he was," he said. "I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know whether he was armed or not." Zimmerman said he had made a similar statement to police. "I was told not to communicate with them," he said. "I did ask [my attorneys] to express that to them." I would caution anyone reading harrys edited, out of context, and cherry picked statements to go on line and listen to what the judge said, another words, watch the whole hearing so you can have it all in context. I already know harry and plum won't do that, or won't care so we can pretty much dismiss anything they say here about it... :) Gee, because he was granted bail (with an ankle bracelet, I might add) means he's innocent, right? Nope, that would be a silly assumption, only made by an irrational person with an agenda.. I am particularly talking about the part where the Judge address Zimmerman's past record. I will let you do your own research.. Come back when you have. What does it matter? MY point, which you fail miserably to understand is that you and other FOXites dredged up Martin's past (he's never been arrested, by the way) but then don't want to bring Zimmerman's past (he HAS been arrested several times) into it. Funny huh? My whole post was about Zimmermans past, as interpreted in a court of law, by a judge... I said nothing about Martin, period. If I thought you were really that stupid, that would be one thing, but you are not. You are just being an asshole. Oh, but in the past you've stated right here in rec.boats that Martin had a shady past. So, I'll make it very easy for you to understand (hopefully you will). #1. Of the two, which one has been arrested three times, two of which were violent crimes? #2. Which of the two has NO arrest record? Who cares? One version of the story has all three charges arising out of the same incident. I don't know the truth of the matter, do you? He doesn't, he still obviously hasn't looked into what the Judge said about that yesterday... |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article , says...
On 4/21/2012 9:32 AM, Oscar wrote: On 4/21/2012 9:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 3:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 1:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 12:19 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/20/12 11:55 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... That may be your reality, but the "real" reality is different: (CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. - A judge has granted bail for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but would not allow his release Friday, citing further discussions needed about the terms, including whether or not he would be allowed out of state. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester also said that Zimmerman must not have any contact with the victim's family; must wear an ankle monitoring bracelet; and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. The judge's order also states that Zimmerman cannot be in possession of firearms; and must not consume alcohol or controlled substances. Taking the stand during the hearing at the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, Zimmerman addressed the parents of Martin, who were seated in court: "I wanted to say that I am sorry for the loss of your son. "I did not know how old he was," he said. "I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know whether he was armed or not." Zimmerman said he had made a similar statement to police. "I was told not to communicate with them," he said. "I did ask [my attorneys] to express that to them." I would caution anyone reading harrys edited, out of context, and cherry picked statements to go on line and listen to what the judge said, another words, watch the whole hearing so you can have it all in context. I already know harry and plum won't do that, or won't care so we can pretty much dismiss anything they say here about it... :) Gee, because he was granted bail (with an ankle bracelet, I might add) means he's innocent, right? Nope, that would be a silly assumption, only made by an irrational person with an agenda.. I am particularly talking about the part where the Judge address Zimmerman's past record. I will let you do your own research.. Come back when you have. What does it matter? MY point, which you fail miserably to understand is that you and other FOXites dredged up Martin's past (he's never been arrested, by the way) but then don't want to bring Zimmerman's past (he HAS been arrested several times) into it. Funny huh? My whole post was about Zimmermans past, as interpreted in a court of law, by a judge... I said nothing about Martin, period. If I thought you were really that stupid, that would be one thing, but you are not. You are just being an asshole. Oh, but in the past you've stated right here in rec.boats that Martin had a shady past. So, I'll make it very easy for you to understand (hopefully you will). #1. Of the two, which one has been arrested three times, two of which were violent crimes? #2. Which of the two has NO arrest record? Who cares? One version of the story has all three charges arising out of the same incident. I don't know the truth of the matter, do you? He doesn't, he still obviously hasn't looked into what the Judge said about that yesterday... I don't care what the judge said yesterday. I asked two simple questions and you can't answer them. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/21/2012 11:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/21/2012 9:32 AM, Oscar wrote: On 4/21/2012 9:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 3:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 1:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/20/2012 12:19 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/20/12 11:55 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/20/2012 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article18803972.421.1334930205112.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbi17, says... On Friday, April 20, 2012 8:46:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article1526853.2971.1334881550324.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbab2, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? True, but it was Martin who asked the first question. Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the first question too. It would be stupid not to. Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would you tell him you had a right to be there. It all depends on HOW he approached me. Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman asking what Martin was doing there. So? Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend. Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up? Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case. Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will win. This is just a knee jerk political move. Don't confuse him with facts. Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin. Admitted fact. Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a homicide. Conjecture. No, not conjecture, truth. You weren't there, you don't know exactly what they did. And I'm certain you aren't a police detective. So, conjecture. Don't have to be a detective. They've stated they didn't do those things normally done. Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin False, he wasn't stealthy, Martin knew he was there. Look up "stalk". Okay, see #3: 3. to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Again, the events don't support your take. He wasn't steady or deliberate, if he had been he wouldn't have lost him, gone back to his truck, etc. Wasn't sinister in his intent during the time he was following, else he wouldn't have had the police on the phone. In fact, he had lost Martin and was waiting on police when it seems Martin initiated contact. A guy walking toward another person with a handgun isn't sinister? Also, note the definition that you wanted me to look up says "steady, deliberate, OR sinister. Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head. False. Really? http://rollingout.com/culture/george...retired-judge- has-3-closed-arrests/ Which states: According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that?s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer ? You did't read you own cite, do you? "Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date." Because the charges were dropped in pre-trial intervention means he didn't do anything??? Are you serious? The article you cite from wasn't even a halfway researched one, it got some pretty important stuff wrong. Half-ass "journalism". You have proof of that, right? May I see it? Anyway, on closer examination of the facts, he was actually a pretty wimpy "violent" guy, huh? Seems that he actually never touched anyone. Sounds to me like he's guilty of running his mouth. Domestic violence, resisting arrest with violence, resisting arrest with violence. How many crimes has Martin been charged with? After all you're trying to make it look like Martin was a thug and Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen. Well, if you were really interested in facts, you would have just watched the probable cause hearing where the Judge made a great effort to let folks know that "this type of charge" is "standard" for incidents on some University, and he (the judge) pretty much dismissed all of the "charges" previously against him and said "they are not relevant to this case at all" and then gave him a 150,000 dollar bond, and will even let him leave the state. Those are the facts, spin on from there.... That may be your reality, but the "real" reality is different: (CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. - A judge has granted bail for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but would not allow his release Friday, citing further discussions needed about the terms, including whether or not he would be allowed out of state. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester also said that Zimmerman must not have any contact with the victim's family; must wear an ankle monitoring bracelet; and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. The judge's order also states that Zimmerman cannot be in possession of firearms; and must not consume alcohol or controlled substances. Taking the stand during the hearing at the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, Zimmerman addressed the parents of Martin, who were seated in court: "I wanted to say that I am sorry for the loss of your son. "I did not know how old he was," he said. "I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know whether he was armed or not." Zimmerman said he had made a similar statement to police. "I was told not to communicate with them," he said. "I did ask [my attorneys] to express that to them." I would caution anyone reading harrys edited, out of context, and cherry picked statements to go on line and listen to what the judge said, another words, watch the whole hearing so you can have it all in context. I already know harry and plum won't do that, or won't care so we can pretty much dismiss anything they say here about it... :) Gee, because he was granted bail (with an ankle bracelet, I might add) means he's innocent, right? Nope, that would be a silly assumption, only made by an irrational person with an agenda.. I am particularly talking about the part where the Judge address Zimmerman's past record. I will let you do your own research.. Come back when you have. What does it matter? MY point, which you fail miserably to understand is that you and other FOXites dredged up Martin's past (he's never been arrested, by the way) but then don't want to bring Zimmerman's past (he HAS been arrested several times) into it. Funny huh? My whole post was about Zimmermans past, as interpreted in a court of law, by a judge... I said nothing about Martin, period. If I thought you were really that stupid, that would be one thing, but you are not. You are just being an asshole. Oh, but in the past you've stated right here in rec.boats that Martin had a shady past. So, I'll make it very easy for you to understand (hopefully you will). #1. Of the two, which one has been arrested three times, two of which were violent crimes? #2. Which of the two has NO arrest record? Who cares? One version of the story has all three charges arising out of the same incident. I don't know the truth of the matter, do you? He doesn't, he still obviously hasn't looked into what the Judge said about that yesterday... I don't care what the judge said yesterday. I asked two simple questions and you can't answer them. We already know the answers, everyone does, but it "has no bearing on this case" in the words of the Judge, and like it or not, we are not China yet... |
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