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Floriduh
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says... In article 23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, BAR wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. Yep, the no retreat clause is the same for Martin as it is for Zimmerman. |
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#3
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Floriduh
On 3/27/2012 4:16 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. Yep, the no retreat clause is the same for Martin as it is for Zimmerman. You whole heatedly believe that if a person didn't have a gun and asked another person a question which led him to beat the questioner to death it's ok, as long as the person being asked a question is black and wins the altercation... I get it... |
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Floriduh
In article , says...
On 3/27/2012 4:16 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. Yep, the no retreat clause is the same for Martin as it is for Zimmerman. You whole heatedly believe that if a person didn't have a gun and asked another person a question which led him to beat the questioner to death it's ok, as long as the person being asked a question is black and wins the altercation... I get it... Where the hell did I ever say such thing? I wonder if John will admonish YOU for "making **** up"? YOU are officially the first to interject racism into the thread, good job. Now, what does your **** above have to do with my statement that the no retreat clause is the same for Martin as it is for Zimmerman? |
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Floriduh
On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote:
In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? |
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#6
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Floriduh
On 3/27/12 4:38 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? Zimmerman had no business asking the kid "what are you doing here?" and the kid had no obligation to respond to such a question. Zimmerman is not in the law enforcement business. |
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#7
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Floriduh
In article , says...
On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? Zimmerman had already contacted the police and the police were on their way. Zimmerman should have stayed in his car. I was taught at a very young age that it doesn't matter who you think you are and what you think you are capable of doing, the other guy might be able to kick your ass easily. The question becomes, do you want to get your ass kicked and find out for sure. |
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#8
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Floriduh
On 3/28/12 8:02 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? Zimmerman had already contacted the police and the police were on their way. Zimmerman should have stayed in his car. I was taught at a very young age that it doesn't matter who you think you are and what you think you are capable of doing, the other guy might be able to kick your ass easily. The question becomes, do you want to get your ass kicked and find out for sure. Your boy Scotty imagines himself as a tough guy. |
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Floriduh
In article ,
says... In article , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? Zimmerman had already contacted the police and the police were on their way. Zimmerman should have stayed in his car. I was taught at a very young age that it doesn't matter who you think you are and what you think you are capable of doing, the other guy might be able to kick your ass easily. The question becomes, do you want to get your ass kicked and find out for sure. You're going to be thrown out of the far right club here for making sense of this all!! |
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Floriduh
In article , says...
On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. |
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