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On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:41:00 -0500, BAR wrote:

I don't want to support Arab Oil, I want to support US Oil. Drill here,
drill now.

Why? Apparently we already have too much, since oil companies are
exporting American oil to foreign companies in record quantities.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...l_exports.html

The we have achieved our goal of stopping our dependence on foreign oil.
You lefties should be dancing in the streets.

And the Canadians want to share a pipeline to the gulf with American
companies to ship EVERYBODY'S oil overseas, too.

Ship the oil or gasoline over seas?

Drill, drill, drill? Hell no, if it isn't staying HERE (and it isn't).

Drill, drill, drill, sell, sell, sell, as long as they are buying the
oil from us I don't care what they do with it.

On 3/4/12 6:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:41:00 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to support Arab Oil, I want to support US Oil. Drill here,
drill now.

Why? Apparently we already have too much, since oil companies are
exporting American oil to foreign companies in record quantities.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...l_exports.html

The we have achieved our goal of stopping our dependence on foreign oil.
You lefties should be dancing in the streets.

And the Canadians want to share a pipeline to the gulf with American
companies to ship EVERYBODY'S oil overseas, too.

Ship the oil or gasoline over seas?

Drill, drill, drill? Hell no, if it isn't staying HERE (and it isn't).

Drill, drill, drill, sell, sell, sell, as long as they are buying the
oil from us I don't care what they do with it.





What's the point of selling this country's natural resources overseas? I
hope your answer isn't "making money."

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:58:27 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:
On 3/4/12 6:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:41:00 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to support Arab Oil, I want to support US Oil.
Drill here,
drill now.

Why? Apparently we already have too much, since oil companies are
exporting American oil to foreign companies in record quantities.


http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...l_exports.html

The we have achieved our goal of stopping our dependence on
foreign oil.
You lefties should be dancing in the streets.

And the Canadians want to share a pipeline to the gulf with
American
companies to ship EVERYBODY'S oil overseas, too.

Ship the oil or gasoline over seas?

Drill, drill, drill? Hell no, if it isn't staying HERE (and it
isn't).

Drill, drill, drill, sell, sell, sell, as long as they are buying
the
oil from us I don't care what they do with it.






What's the point of selling this country's natural resources
overseas? I
hope your answer isn't "making money."

Why?

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:53:09 -0500, oscar wrote:

What's the point of selling this country's natural resources
overseas? I
hope your answer isn't "making money."

Why?

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Because it's not strategic in the long run. The energy situation has
to be viewed as a global chess game. He who finishes with the last
oil wins.

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:11:08 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:53:09 -0500, oscar wrote:

What's the point of selling this country's natural resources
overseas? I
hope your answer isn't "making money."

Why?

===

Because it's not strategic in the long run. The energy situation has
to be viewed as a global chess game. He who finishes with the last
oil wins.

Litterally - he will be the only one able to power his bombers and tanks.

Are electric bombers and tanks under consideration, I wonder?

On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 06:50:09 -0500, wrote:


Because it's not strategic in the long run. The energy situation has
to be viewed as a global chess game. He who finishes with the last
oil wins.

That is ridiculous. He who finishes last will be the one that has
energy resources to continue playing. Those depending on oil will be
the first ones out of the game.

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Those depending on oil for *energy* will be the first ones out. The
real value of oil is as an industrial feedstock and high efficiency
transportation fuel (jet aviation).

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On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 08:56:06 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 06:50:09 -0500, wrote:


Because it's not strategic in the long run. The energy situation has
to be viewed as a global chess game. He who finishes with the last
oil wins.

That is ridiculous. He who finishes last will be the one that has
energy resources to continue playing. Those depending on oil will be
the first ones out of the game.

===

Those depending on oil for *energy* will be the first ones out. The
real value of oil is as an industrial feedstock and high efficiency
transportation fuel (jet aviation).

That is a joke, right?


If you are desperate for a cite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_eng...ive_efficiency

http://njchp.rutgers.edu/files/Recip...ng_Engines.pdf

Something has to get those vehicles moving from 0 MPH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Energy_density.svg

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says...

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:11:08 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:53:09 -0500, oscar wrote:

What's the point of selling this country's natural resources
overseas? I
hope your answer isn't "making money."

Why?

===

Because it's not strategic in the long run. The energy situation has
to be viewed as a global chess game. He who finishes with the last
oil wins.

That is ridiculous. He who finishes last will be the one that has
energy resources to continue playing. Those depending on oil will be
the first ones out of the game.

What do you know about hydrogen fuel cells?

What do you know about nuclear powered planes and cars?

On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 18:23:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:11:08 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:53:09 -0500, oscar wrote:

What's the point of selling this country's natural resources
overseas? I
hope your answer isn't "making money."

Why?

===

Because it's not strategic in the long run. The energy situation has
to be viewed as a global chess game. He who finishes with the last
oil wins.

That is ridiculous. He who finishes last will be the one that has
energy resources to continue playing. Those depending on oil will be
the first ones out of the game.

What do you know about hydrogen fuel cells?

Promising technology, not ready for prime time unfortunately.


What do you know about nuclear powered planes and cars?

That's a real long shot unless someone comes up with small scale
fusion. Right now they've been working on large scale fusion for
over 50 years and we're not even close yet.

Like I said however, the real value of oil in the long term is not as
a fuel.

On 3/6/2012 11:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 21:44:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

What do you know about nuclear powered planes and cars?

That's a real long shot unless someone comes up with small scale
fusion. Right now they've been working on large scale fusion for
over 50 years and we're not even close yet.


Once we get that flux capacitor thing worked out we will have a fusion
car.

And until then, we will use gas...