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BAR[_2_] March 4th 12 02:51 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html



We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?


What's the difference?

The problem is that you lefties are willing to lay down and be walked
all over by the Muslims but, when it is any form of Christianity you
freak out.




Really? I don't recall saying or implying that I am "willing to lay down
and be walked all over by Muslims." You should cut back on those magic
'shrooms.

Don't start projecting your recreational activities onto me or others.

As a student of history (actual history, not the "conservative" view of
history), I don't see the difference between being slaughtered by
christian zealots or by muslim zealots, the two religious groups under
discussion in this thread. Both religions have a long and bloody history
of slaughter in the name of the faith.

Actions speak louder than words Harry. Your actions and your fellow
lefty's action's belie your words.

I also don't "freak out" about christianity. To me, it's just another
superstition-based collection of beliefs. My objections arise when its
practitioners attempt to force their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. I'm having many good laughs these days watching the "christian"
political zealots fall on their swords over womens' reproductive health
issues.

We don't have a secular society. Never have and never will.

Women's reproductive health? This is a joke and most people can see
right through the "issue." The poor student Ms. Fluke is a 30 year old
woman who is going to Georgetown Law on a "public interest"
(http://www.law.georgetown.edu/pils/) scholarship. Her whole "beef" is
that someone else isn't paying for her birth control pills. Her argument
falls apart when it comes down to the low cost of condoms.

When a 30 year old woman stands up and says I want someone else to pay
for my birth control pills while I attend law school on a scholarship,
she doesn't garner sympathy from the majority of the country.

So... because she doesn't need birth control pills for reproductive
health means that no other woman needs it for that purpose as well?
Typical.

You are an idiot. I'll repeat it just to make sure it sinks in, you are
an idiot.

This has nothing to do with "reproductive health" whatever that means.
If birth control pills are not covered then they are not covered. If Ms.
Fluke wants birth control pills then she is free to purchase them
herself. No one is preventing her from purchasing birth control pills.

The question on the table is why can't Ms. Fluke pay for her own birth
control pills?

Birth control pills are not the only method of contraception if Ms.
Fluke doesn't want to get pregnant while engaging in her sexual
adventures.


Maybe that is why you don't get it! I'll make it simple. Reproductive
Health is a state of physical, mental, and social well-being in all
matters relating to the reproductive system at all stages of life.


How did the human race get to the point where find ourselves today with
the help and guidance form the progressives over the last 100 years?

Ignorance, therefore, is believing that "birth control pills" are
prescribed only for birth control. Maybe perverts like Rush Limbaugh
should quit calling them birth control pills and merely call them
hormones which is what they really are. Maybe he could get over his
sex fascination.


Reproductive health?

Why take hormones? Doctors prescribe them to lower the risk of some
cancers, to treat some skin diseases, lessen the pain and stress of
periods, to relieve endometriosis, PCOS relief, and other good medical
reasons, not relating to sexual gyrations that I'm sure you'd like to
watch with Rush, in his Circle of Friends.


Birth control pills have been proved to cause breast cancer.

So what is all this fascination and anxiety associated with the
possibility that women are giving up a little that you aren't getting?
Slut means she putting out and YOU aren't getting any? Yep, thought
so.


Has your landlord let you out of the basement for any congegal visits
lately?


Personal attacks, that should help clear up the great Christianity
debate!


Who said I was a Christian?



X ` Man[_3_] March 4th 12 02:55 PM

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On 3/3/12 5:53 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:39:12 -0500, X ` wrote:

On 3/3/12 5:37 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:19:09 -0500,
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 08:11:16 -0500, wrote:

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I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no intention that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933

People practicing their religion is scary to you? Better not go to a
church in the U.S. then!

I find all fundamentalism very scary. I don't find these wackos any
scarier than born again Christians.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ous-play-paris

What's scary is that these folks block access to business, streets, homes, etc,, and the law is
afraid to do anything.

In your example, the law took action - arresting those who infringed on the rights of others. That
is quite appropriate. Note also that the Catholics haven't killed anyone over the blasphemy.


Catholics haven't killed anyone over blasphemy?
Not much of a student of history, hey, John?


Learn to read, then learn to quote.

You seem to take great pleasure in putting your ignorance on display.


History is a continuum.

Islam did not grow by the word it grew by the sword.



You mean, like christianity in south and central america?


You should do some research before you stick your foot in your mouth,
again. Check out the history of the Iberian peninsula before using them
as an example for your argument.



Are you referring to the Spanish Inquisition, a long period of religious
horror inflicted by the Catholic Spaniards on some of the peoples of
Europe and Central and South America? :)

European history is resplendent with examples of blood spilled over the
efforts of "christians" to find the one true faith.



Happy John March 4th 12 03:02 PM

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On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 19:26:49 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:37:12 -0500, Happy John
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:19:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 08:11:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no intention that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933

People practicing their religion is scary to you? Better not go to a
church in the U.S. then!

I find all fundamentalism very scary. I don't find these wackos any
scarier than born again Christians.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ous-play-paris


What's scary is that these folks block access to business, streets, homes, etc,, and the law is
afraid to do anything.


What is scary is that CBN has convinced you that this is so. The truth
is:

http://digitaljournal.com/article/311577


In your example, the law took action - arresting those who infringed on the rights of others. That
is quite appropriate. Note also that the Catholics haven't killed anyone over the blasphemy.


A statement like, "Note also that the Catholics haven't killed anyone
over the blasphemy, " calls for no response.


You and Harry keep missing the word 'the'. Perhaps this will help you both:

DEFINITE ARTICLE

THE

Articles in English are invariable. That is, they do not change according to the gender or number of
the noun they refer to, e.g. the boy, the woman, the children

'The' is used:

1. to refer to something which has already been mentioned.

Example: An elephant and a mouse fell in love.
The mouse loved the elephant's long trunk,
and the elephant loved the mouse's tiny nose.

X ` Man[_3_] March 4th 12 03:07 PM

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On 3/4/12 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/4/2012 9:56 AM, X ` Man wrote:


Oh. I should have known you wouldn't be able to differentiate between
the religious and the secular.


Atheism is a religion, and it's getting shoved down my kids throats
every day... So is the Church of Al Gore...



Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is the absence of religion. D'oh.

Bill Maher had a great essay on the subject. You should read it because
it describes your anti-intellectual approach to life's mysteries to a tee:

And finally, New Rule: Until someone claims to see Christopher Hitchens'
face in a tree stump, *idiots* must stop claiming that atheism is a
religion.

There's one little difference. Religion is defined as the belief in and
worship of a super-human, controlling power. And atheism is…precisely
not that.

Got it? Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position.

Now…believe it or not, I don't really enjoy talking about religion all
the time. In fact, not only is atheism not a religion, it's not even my
hobby. And that's the best thing about being an atheist. It requires so
little of your time.

But, there is a growing trend in this country that needs to be called
out. And that is to label any evidence-based belief a religion. Many
conservatives now say that belief in manmade climate change is a
religion, and Darwinism is a religion. And of course, atheism, the total
lack of religion, is somehow a religion, too, according to the always
reliable "Encyclopedia Moronica."

Now, it's a dodge, of course, straight out of the grand intellectual
tradition of "I know you are, but what am I?" It's a way of saying,
"Hey, we all believe in some sort of faith-based malarkey, so let's call
it a push."

No. No, no, no, no. no. It's not fair that people who can't defend their
own nonsense get to create a fake, fair-and-balanced argument, the way
they do in asserting that evolution and creationism are equally valid.

I'm not saying that atheists are perfect thinkers. Everyone has blind
spots. I'm sure there are atheists who think ponytails look good on a
man. And pineapple belongs on a pizza. And Ayn Rand was an important
thinker. But, when it comes to religion, we're not two sides of the same
coin. And you don't get to put your un-reason up on the same shelf with
my reason.

Your stuff has to go over there on the shelf with Zeus and Thor and the
Kraken. With the stuff that is not evidence-based, stuff that religious
people never change their mind about, no matter what happens. That's not
atheism.

I'm open to anything for which there's evidence. Show me a god and I
will believe in him. If Jesus Christ comes down from the sky during the
halftime show of this Sunday's Super Bowl and turns all the nachos into
loaves and fishes, well, I'll think two things. First, how dare he
interrupt Madonna; she is going to be ****ed!

And two, oh, look at that, I was wrong; there he is. My bad. Praise the
Lord.

But, that's not going to happen. And, short of that, if you still insist
atheism is a religion, then it's only fair that we get to do all the
loony stuff that you get to do.

And I'm going to start tonight by un-baptizing Mitt Romney's dead
father-in-law. [slide shown of Edward Davies] Yes, in case you didn't
hear, it was discovered last week that Edward Davies, Ann Romney's
father, an enthusiastically anti-religious scientist who called
organized faith "hogwash," was posthumously baptized in the Mormon
tradition, 14 months after he died. They tried to do it sooner, but he
wouldn't stop spinning in his grave.

So, here then, is history's first un-baptism ceremony right now. [he
produces framed photo of Edward Davies] [he puts on wizard’s hat and
produces a wand and candle] For the late Edward Davies.

[Lights go out, church music heard] Dearly beloved, we are gathered here
today in the presence of math, gravity, evolution and electricity…to
honor Brother Edward, and to send the powers of SEAL Team 666 to rescue
him from Planet Kolob so that he may spend eternity with the kind of
free-thinkers he chose to hang out with on earth.

So, by the power granted to me by the Blair Witch. Schlemiel,
Schlimazel, e pluribus mumbo-jumbo! Expecto-Petronum, Sussudio, Yo
Mama…I call upon the Mormon spirits to leave your body the f**k alone!

Brother Edward, in this world, you had to put up with Mitt Romney.
You've suffered enough!

iBoaterer[_2_] March 4th 12 03:21 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html



We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?

Neither. And neither did our founding fathers.

Read the declaration of independence again. We were founded with an
acknowledgment of God's grace and that everyone could practice their
religion without interference by others. Contrary to popular belief
there is not separation of church and state.

Bull****! Ever hear of this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

And if you really want to delve into the matter, go he

http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...uotations.html

You did read the first word didn't you.


Oh, I see, you don't care anything about the rest of what our founding
father's thought, you just want to cherry pick what is in one document.
Got it.


You whining about others cherry picking is priceless.


What have I cherry picked about? Second hand smoke? I've asked you and
Scotty many times to post some peer reviewed articles that prove that
second hand smoke is not harmful to those who inhale it.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 4th 12 03:22 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html



We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?

That suggestion about Santorm is just more DNC hyper-bull**** spread by
the MSM...

Holy ****, have you ever actually LISTENED to the guy?

"We were put on this Earth as creatures of God to have dominion over the
Earth."

"The radical feminists succeeded in undermining the traditional family
and convincing women that professional accomplishments are the key to
happiness."

This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is
a spiritual war."

http://santorumexposed.com/?p=710

The country has fallen apart with the "progressives" pushing that the
nuclear family is not as important as the community or society.

Say what you want but, all of our cultural problems have occurred since
the family was yanked apart by the social dogooders.


Hooo boy......


That is a strong argument.


Your statement was so unhinged and out there that there is no argument.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 4th 12 03:23 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no
intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html




We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?


What's the difference?

Try telling a joke about Catholics, then tell the same one about Muslims
here and you will see...

I have a Muslim friend and I can say anything I want to him about his
religion because he's knows I'm intelligent enough to know that the few
terrorists that are seen on TV aren't the real Muslims.

Ask your Muslim friend if he will criticize the terrorists actions.

He has a Muslim friend... !? LOL!


What's wrong with having a Muslim friend? Actually, it puts me in a
better place, because *I* KNOW what they think and feel, you only think
what FOX tells you to think.


Do you have a black friend too? Does your friendship with a black person
confer upon you knowledge about what they think and feel too. You
argument is falling apart on many levels.


I have many friends of different races, religions and backgrounds. And
yes, we DO talk about important issues, and I can go to them and ask
questions. That's what separates me from the far right, I don't just let
FOX tell me what to think, I go and research and learn.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 4th 12 03:24 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no
intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html




We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?


What's the difference?

Try telling a joke about Catholics, then tell the same one about Muslims
here and you will see...

I have a Muslim friend and I can say anything I want to him about his
religion because he's knows I'm intelligent enough to know that the few
terrorists that are seen on TV aren't the real Muslims.

Ask your Muslim friend if he will criticize the terrorists actions.

He has a Muslim friend... !? LOL!

What's wrong with having a Muslim friend? Actually, it puts me in a
better place, because *I* KNOW what they think and feel, you only think
what FOX tells you to think.


Do you have a black friend too? Does your friendship with a black person
confer upon you knowledge about what they think and feel too. You
argument is falling apart on many levels.



Somehow he thinks he is the only one with a muslim friend... That's
precious...


Where in hell did I say or even imply such? If you have a muslim friend,
ask him what HE thinks of terrorists, and let me know what he says.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 4th 12 03:25 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no
intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html




We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?


What's the difference?

Try telling a joke about Catholics, then tell the same one about Muslims
here and you will see...

I have a Muslim friend and I can say anything I want to him about his
religion because he's knows I'm intelligent enough to know that the few
terrorists that are seen on TV aren't the real Muslims.

Ask your Muslim friend if he will criticize the terrorists actions.


Yes, he does.


Does he do it at the Mosque in front of the entire congregation?


I'll ask. Your view that all Muslims are terrorists is SO far
disconnected from reality that it borders on clinical paranoia.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 4th 12 03:26 PM

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On 3/2/12 5:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/2/2012 5:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/2/12 4:32 PM, Happy John wrote:
I hope this is not taken as a 'political' post. There is no
intention
that it be political. I
received the link in an email and thought it was pretty scary.

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933


From CBN and it's not political?

Hehehe.

Right.

It has already started he

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisse...204051912.html




We have a long history in this country of the self-described religious
attacking/isolating/discriminating against those whose beliefs differ
from theirs, a history that began long before anyone noticed we have
Muslims here.

Such religious bigotry is as American as apple pie.

What is the difference between those who have a religious axe to grind
and those with a political axe to grind.

Exactly! When the Ayatollah Santorum has his way, we'll be a theocracy
just like that.

Do you want to be a Catholic theocracy or a Muslim theocracy?


What's the difference?

Try telling a joke about Catholics, then tell the same one about Muslims
here and you will see...

I have a Muslim friend and I can say anything I want to him about his
religion because he's knows I'm intelligent enough to know that the few
terrorists that are seen on TV aren't the real Muslims.

Ask your Muslim friend if he will criticize the terrorists actions.


Here, maybe something real, instead of what FOX tells you will set you
at peace:

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm

http://www.m-a-t.org/


I don't trust Muslims, they are told, by their religious leaders, that
it is ok to lie to infidels.


Of course you don't. FOX told you not to.


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