BoatBanter.com - Update on ecigs...

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On 2/26/2012 3:20 PM, BAR wrote:
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On 2/26/12 10:56 AM, BAR wrote:

Where are the independently duplicated and peer
reviewed
research
that
shows that second hand smoke causes health
problems?

The medical and scientific fields are rife with
incorrect
conclusions,
sub-standard methods and politically driven
persons.

What are your qualifications to find, understand,
and
judge
legitimate
medical research?

You are too funny. What are you qualifications to
question
anyone
else's
qualifications?

I think if you are going to try to challenge
peer-reviewed
medical
research in scientific publications, you ought to
have
some
recognizable
qualifications.

What are your qualifications to question anyone
else's
qualifications?

It is having a huge effect on the market.. Changing
the
whole
dynamic.
Taking the manufacture and distribution to a totally
different
level.
Away from organized criminal organizations, and
directly to
Suzie
Homemaker...

You must have excised the content here.

I think so. My comment was directed at the notion that
350
dollar an
ounce pot was not having an effect on the market...
And it
certainly
is...

Ahh. I missed that. Is that up or down? And what effect
is it
having?

I do not endorse the use of any illegal substance, all
of my
information
is based on hearsay, my own research over the internet,
and
other
sources over the years who wish to remain anonymous.

OK,...here we go...
Well, back in 1976 an ounce was less than ten dollars. It
would
come
over from Jamaica or Vietnam with traveling service men,
and
other
world
travelers, average Joes, it was still somewhat casual but
beginning to
go more main stream (move to the suburbs) from about 69
on.

At that time there were two distinctive levels of quality
available.
Regular like I said, less than ten buck an ounce, and
then
the
specialty
stuff like Colombian Gold, and Panama Red which cold
reach
the
amazing
price of 40 dollars an ounce...

Things really changed quickly in the 80's when criminal
elements
realized how much money was to be made on pot, and really
decided to
take over the business. One of the things they did right
away
was
begin
to develop domestic production by sending growers from
California
all
over the country, north western Mass, and particularly to
Canada
where a
lot of the production moved indoors. This all made for a
much
fresher
and significantly more potent, hand tended product rather
than
the
imported stuff which was often beat to **** and
smelling of
something
foul by the time it gotpot to the US. Although the
imported
stuff
was
still
available, by the mid 80's it was almost completely
replaced by
the
domestic crop and the prices skyrocketed to an average
200 an
ounce by
the mid 80's ten times more than it had been just a
decade
earlier.

The whole market swung back in the last couple decades
for
suburban
consumers anyway. With the availability of technology,
information on
the net, genetically superior seeds in the mail with
practically no
possibility of discovery has turned the whole market
right
back
where it
started with random, unconnected (mostly non criminal
except
for
the
pot) producers all over the country. Distribution has
gone
back
to the
days of the local farmer, mostly serving local friends
and
family.

Stronger and better (taste, smoothness, etc.) is being
genetically
developed all the time and some of the higher priced
strains
now
can go
for nearly 500 an ounce for top bud (top plant
material)...

There is still a good amount of poor quality imported
stuff
coming over
the border, but no longer the great strains of the past
like
the
golds
and reds, just commercial bunk, mostly sold in the inner
city in
dime
bags on the street corner. That can still go for close to
200 an
ounce
if you were to find a distributor willing to sell that
much.
Most of
them want to cut it to dime bags and make a fortune...

So, that's how the price of pot has effected the
industry...
in a
nutshell;)

Ahh, thanks. I don't follow the pot price curve... :)

Hummm, yeah I know a couple here will get stupid but it's
all on
the up
and up. I get my info mostly from legal sites representing
legal
retail
stores across the country and world... I tend to stir them
up a
bit as
although I know there are some very legitimate medical
reasons
for
some
folks to smoke, I don't subscribe to the whole "medical
marijuana"
hoax,
I just believe in straight legalization... 95 to probably
98% of
the
folks using "medical marijuana" are full of crap...

Dope is dope Scotty. Do you suggest that all regulations on
dope be
rescinded?

No, I think Marijuana should be treated like Tobacco or
Alcohol...

I agree. We spend WAY too much time and money on the fight to
stamp
out
pot. Those resources could be used for much better things.

Why don't you guys come up with a list of dope that you deem
acceptable
for general consumption. I'll start the list for you.

1. The hallucinogen, marijuana

Well, that's my list.. Let's turn the tables.. Would you rather
get in
the car with somebody smoking pot, or somebody on Oxycontin or
Vicodin?

I assume those drugs are powerful hallucinogens, just like
marijuana.
You aren't really offering a safe alternative. To answer your
question,
I would not knowingly be around any machinery being operated by a
person
under the influence of any of those dangerous controlled
substances,
including pot.

Listen, I get it.. You want me to get all upset and defend pot
from
your
hysterical, uninformed suggestions about the drug... But I am not
going
to. I have known literally thousands of pot smokers in my
lifetime,
never once have I ever heard of one having hallucinations... so as
far
as I am concerned, as soon as you go there, you are talking about
some
fictional drug.. And I am not here to make up fairy tales...

The pot smokers I have known in my lifetime have never mentioned
hallucinations in connection with use of the stuff.

This is a propaganda talking point used by the textile and alcohol
companies who got it banned in the first place. Think Kennedy, yeah,
wrap your head around that one... and more recently, big pharma...

How would you describe the sensations derived from the act of smoking
dope?

For that, you would have to ask a smoker...

You are implying that you are not a drug user. I'm happy to hear that.
Lolling about with drug users is a dangerous pass time. You should
distance yourself from them lest they influence you to become one of
them.

You have your causes, I have mine... who says I am not a councellor in a
addiction clinic trying to help them quit? If I was, would you still
suggest I abandon them?

Doubt it. If you were trying to get them to quit You wouldn't advocate
making the dope legal.

You just don't know, what you don't know but I am starting to see that
doesn't slow you down much... I am/have worked on both sides of the
argument, looking for the same result.. I am sure it's beyond you. Like
they say, "if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand..".

Aw shucks. Give it a try.

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O M G