On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:50:07 -0500, Happy John
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:51:44 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I would say the whole bridge crew better have some good answers.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...ip-sunday.html

If I was the owner, I would suspend everyone until I got solid answers.
Then fire everyone involved in the bad decisions.

But Italians look like they wasted no time in arrest.

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Good discussion, charts and AIS track:

http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:50:07 -0500, Happy John
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:51:44 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I would say the whole bridge crew better have some good answers.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...ip-sunday.html

If I was the owner, I would suspend everyone until I got solid answers.
Then fire everyone involved in the bad decisions.

But Italians look like they wasted no time in arrest.

===

Good discussion, charts and AIS track:

http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/

Holy cow, they are saying that the draft is 8 meters, but as it's
underway at 15 knots there is a "squat" of 3 meters and that not many
captains factor this in!!

On 16/01/2012 11:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:50:07 -0500, Happy
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:51:44 -0700, wrote:

I would say the whole bridge crew better have some good answers.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...ip-sunday.html

If I was the owner, I would suspend everyone until I got solid answers.
Then fire everyone involved in the bad decisions.

But Italians look like they wasted no time in arrest.

===

Good discussion, charts and AIS track:

http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/

Holy cow, they are saying that the draft is 8 meters, but as it's
underway at 15 knots there is a "squat" of 3 meters and that not many
captains factor this in!!

Just makes the captain more culpable. An on line chart I looked at
clearly shows 0 to 20 meters in that area, be the draft 8, 11 or 15m,
clearly not wise to cruise in there.

Being modern, would it not have depth, position alarms?

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