On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:19:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wayne, I liked the idea of the marine apps, but she says I'm on my own
there........

===

Tim, hope you had a good harvest season. If so, there's always the
"one of each" option. :-)

On any boat big enough to offer spray protection I prefer a laptop
however. With a tablet you can slip them into a large zip lock bag.

On Dec 31, 12:58*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:19:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wayne, I liked the idea of the marine apps, but she says I'm on my own
there........

===

Tim, hope you had a good harvest season. * If so, there's always the
"one of each" option. * * :-)

On any boat big enough to offer spray protection I prefer a laptop
however. *With a tablet you can slip them into a large zip lock bag.

Wayne, that's a pretty good plan and we've sort of discussed that
before , There will be more planning as the winter goes on, I want to
have the boat ready for splash in April, and plan the cruise for
Memorial day weekend....

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:19:27 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2011 12:10 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:33:29 -0500, wrote:

The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most
places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which
means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a
smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway.


On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass.

===

I have a 4G Verizon aircard that I use with laptops. When it's
working well (not always, but improving), it is faster than a good
cable connection.


Yeah, that's what we use when we are away from the house... Works pretty
good when you get 4G. Started working better after the huge NE storm. I
think they finally replaced the old crap that really wasn't ready for 4G...

===

Verizon is spending a *lot* of money to roll out 4G as fast as
possible and gain a competitive advantage. We've even got it here in
SWFL which is usually about the last place to get new technology. If
I could get an unlimited data plan I'd chuck my DSL service and use
the aircard for the entire house.

On 12/31/2011 2:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:19:27 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2011 12:10 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:33:29 -0500, wrote:

The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most
places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which
means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a
smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway.


On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass.

===

I have a 4G Verizon aircard that I use with laptops. When it's
working well (not always, but improving), it is faster than a good
cable connection.


Yeah, that's what we use when we are away from the house... Works pretty
good when you get 4G. Started working better after the huge NE storm. I
think they finally replaced the old crap that really wasn't ready for 4G...

===

Verizon is spending a *lot* of money to roll out 4G as fast as
possible and gain a competitive advantage. We've even got it here in
SWFL which is usually about the last place to get new technology. If
I could get an unlimited data plan I'd chuck my DSL service and use
the aircard for the entire house.


Yeah, it's still pretty pricey... But it allows us to leave the house
during split shifts we run for our peers...

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:19:28 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Thanks for all the replies. My wife has still settled on the
Kindlefire though. She figures she doesn't need all the bells and
whistles. Then again, later she'll wish she'd upgraded but that's
normal around here.

I sent her this thread and she studied out all the options. She was
humored by some of the tag lines.

Wayne, I liked the idea of the marine apps, but she says I'm on my own
there........

oh well.

Toldja!

On Dec 31, 12:46*pm, Oscar wrote:
On 12/31/2011 11:34 AM, North Star wrote:





On Dec 31, 10:41 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 12/31/11 9:33 AM, wrote:

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:09:36 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to
hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad
is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is
light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n
Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want
things not listed.

So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability,
it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on
one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook.

I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are
going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the
features that meet your requirements.

If you like to read books and magazines on a small computer screen, the
Kindles and similar readers are ok. I still prefer reading books the
"traditional" way, although I did read an entire "beach" novel on my
laptop the last time I flew cross country. It was ok.

The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most
places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which
means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a
smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway.

On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass.

I don't have a 4G cell or tablet, so I can't compare its speeds to
Wi-Fi. When I'm away from Wi-Fi, 3G speed is more than adequate for my
needs. I don't "net surf" very much on my cell phone, and the other apps
- emails, messages, et cetera, seem fast enough on 3G when Wi-Fi is not
available.

--
Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex?

Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks
on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine,
and insurance coverage of contraception.- Hide quoted text -

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My #2 son gave us a Blackberry Playbook for Christmas. When I bundled
our phone/internet/cable tv services last summer, I lost my Wi-Fi
modem.
I had to call and schedule my service provider to come in on the 3rd
of January to swap out the basic modem for one capable of Wi-Fi.
It was no big deal up till now because the only one using that feature
ws my #1 son on his infrequent visits from Toronto.
I probably wouldn't have bought a playbook myself, but now that I have
one I'm anxious to see what it can do.
I'll tell you one thing...the 3 meg front camera and the 5 meg back
camera are limited for indoor use on a dark day. *It claims to have
1080i video.... whick is ok outside in the bright light.
Also got an iPod Nano for Christmas.. so I had to visit a nearby audio
store earlier this week to pick up a new pair of Grado headphones.
Good grief..they cost as much as the iPod but do have a nice sound.
(supplied 'bud style' headphones sounded crappy& *fit worse)

I guess so.http://www.google.com/products/catal...es&oe=utf-8&rl...
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I didn't get that model... the SR60i sounded just fine... especially
when they cost 40% more in a local, half decent audio store compared
to 'merican online re-sellers.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:19:27 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2011 12:10 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:33:29 -0500, wrote:

The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most
places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which
means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a
smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway.


On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass.

===

I have a 4G Verizon aircard that I use with laptops. When it's
working well (not always, but improving), it is faster than a good
cable connection.


Yeah, that's what we use when we are away from the house... Works pretty
good when you get 4G. Started working better after the huge NE storm. I
think they finally replaced the old crap that really wasn't ready for 4G...

===

Verizon is spending a *lot* of money to roll out 4G as fast as
possible and gain a competitive advantage. We've even got it here in
SWFL which is usually about the last place to get new technology. If
I could get an unlimited data plan I'd chuck my DSL service and use
the aircard for the entire house.

Verizon is rolling it out to where the people will adopt it the
quickest. It is all about device density.

wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?
First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to
hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad
is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is
light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n
Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want
things not listed.

So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability,
it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on
one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook.

I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are
going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the
features that meet your requirements.

I bought the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 for my partner and he loves it! It's
very fast and beats the iPad2 in many features. The apps aren't a big
deal. The 50,000 extra that the iPad has are crap or viruses anyway.
The most popular are made for both Apple and Android.

-HB

X ` Man wrote:
On 12/31/11 12:43 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:32:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 30, 9:44 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:15:44 -0500, Happy
wrote:









On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

What a silly question.

If your wife says she wants one, then they're obviously better
than anything else.

Now, just find a good deal on one and go for it.

Here...I learned a lot...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/a...e-fire-review/

Now, get out the $199 and buy one from Amazon.

========

It turns out that there is also an interesting alternative for just a
bit more money:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005B9G79I/ref=asc_df_B005B9G79I1841434

It has a better screen, a built in GPS, and full access to all of the
Android apps. There are some great navigation apps available like
Navionics which comes with charts.

oooooh! Now I'm thinking.......

?;^ )

It is better to get a tablet that can read books than a book reader
that wants to be a tablet when it grows up.
Make sure it is expandable and runs a real OS. If you are not invested
in the apple culture, "I" anything may not be your best choice, unless
you are planning on moving.

If I were not buying an iPad, I'd be taking a serious look
at the Galazy:

http://tinyurl.com/7cmqhlf

The problem with virtually all the tablets is that they only have an
on-screen typing keypad. Most offer an option to attach a USB or
bluetooth keyboard, but then you are back to a sort of laptop computer.

If your typing needs are minimal, then a tablet makes some sense.

My little iPhone pretty much mimics the iPad...it's okay for
non-typing-intensive tasks and it handles a lot of them pretty well.
But it is no replacement for a laptop, and I don't think the iPad is,
either. Not yet. Also, it is a pain in the ass to access the file
system in most tablets, and that makes a number of "computer"
facilities cumbersome.
As a book reader, though, the tablets are an interesting alternative
to the printed page.

In the US, it's spelled "Galaxy", Mr. Writer guy!

-HB

X ` Man wrote:
On 12/31/11 9:33 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:09:36 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to
hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad
is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is
light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n
Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want
things not listed.

So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability,
it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on
one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook.

I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are
going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the
features that meet your requirements.


If you like to read books and magazines on a small computer screen, the
Kindles and similar readers are ok. I still prefer reading books the
"traditional" way, although I did read an entire "beach" novel on my
laptop the last time I flew cross country. It was ok.

The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most
places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which
means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a
smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway.


On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass.


I don't have a 4G cell or tablet, so I can't compare its speeds to
Wi-Fi. When I'm away from Wi-Fi, 3G speed is more than adequate for my
needs. I don't "net surf" very much on my cell phone, and the other
apps - emails, messages, et cetera, seem fast enough on 3G when Wi-Fi
is not available.

No one cares, Harry!

-HB