On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:50:22 -0500 , wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:43:02 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:


On 12/12/11 7:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 12/12/11 4:58 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:43:45 -0500, X ` Man

Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to
stop with
a few shots from a 9mm pistol.

You go first ;-)

I haven't had to shoot any animals and I hope I never have to
do so. I'm
not concerned about bears out at the Shenandoah, but the packs
of wild
dogs concern lots of residents and visitors out there.

I've read enough about bullet impact to know that if I had to
drop a
thug with a 9mm, I could do so. I only use the "cheap" ammo for
target
practice. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot 9MM +P 124 grain
hollowpoints:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YcwaMwB13Gg

I don't like the higher grain count 9MM rounds.


I think if you had actually shot a few animals you would find
out they
are a lot tougher that you think.
It is no accident that people use slugs in shotguns or center
fire
rifles to hunt bears and a bear hunter still gets mauled
occasionally
by a bear with a couple of bullet holes in him.

9mm is barely enough to call a self defense round against 2
legged
animals, even with high performance bullets. Cops use them,
simply
because of the perception that more rounds in the magazine will
make
up for mediocre terminal performance.
It is no accident that the FBI uses a 40 cal.


.40 S&W produces too much muzzle flip for real accuracy and is
also a
lot louder than 9mm. 9 mm is a fine self-defense round for someone
who
knows how to shoot a pistol. Terminal performance is not an issue
in
most armed encounters, where the range typically is less than 15
feet.
At that distance, I can put 10 rounds in a damned small circle,
even if
I am firing rapidly.




Un Huh.

You should have given the bozo the customary snerk. I wonder how well
he does with a target who refuses to stand still?

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