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A nice apple story
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says... On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:48:42 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 11/15/11 8:49 PM, JustWait wrote: On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X ` wrote: On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote: One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to resuscitate it, to no avail. So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up, tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in machine, running diagnostics. No charge for labor or parts. Love it. Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty? Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store. I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup. Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape drive. Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish those were available with PC's  snerkI'm sure with all the imaginary computers at your facilities, you can just hot swap a failed drive out instantaneously, right? It's about that simple to do so. You can hot swap any SATA drive in any win OS, XP or newer. I was playing with drives the other day and as soon as you plug them in, XP finds them and installs them. I am not sure the RAID BIOS on the controller card would actually rebuild the drive tho since that is usually only accessible on a boot. I think you can mirror in the OS. I just haven't done it. Yep, Harry the computer expert just doesn't know... |
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A nice apple story
On 11/16/2011 11:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:48:42 -0500, wrote: In , says... On 11/15/11 8:49 PM, JustWait wrote: On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X ` wrote: On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote: One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to resuscitate it, to no avail. So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up, tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in machine, running diagnostics. No charge for labor or parts. Love it. Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty? Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store. I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup. Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape drive. Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish those were available with PC's snerkI'm sure with all the imaginary computers at your facilities, you can just hot swap a failed drive out instantaneously, right? It's about that simple to do so. You can hot swap any SATA drive in any win OS, XP or newer. I was playing with drives the other day and as soon as you plug them in, XP finds them and installs them. I am not sure the RAID BIOS on the controller card would actually rebuild the drive tho since that is usually only accessible on a boot. I think you can mirror in the OS. I just haven't done it. Yep, Harry the computer expert just doesn't know... Maybe you could explain why Harry would need a server. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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A nice apple story
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says... On 11/16/2011 11:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:48:42 -0500, wrote: In , says... On 11/15/11 8:49 PM, JustWait wrote: On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X ` wrote: On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote: One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to resuscitate it, to no avail. So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up, tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in machine, running diagnostics. No charge for labor or parts. Love it. Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty? Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store. I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup. Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape drive. Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish those were available with PC's snerkI'm sure with all the imaginary computers at your facilities, you can just hot swap a failed drive out instantaneously, right? It's about that simple to do so. You can hot swap any SATA drive in any win OS, XP or newer. I was playing with drives the other day and as soon as you plug them in, XP finds them and installs them. I am not sure the RAID BIOS on the controller card would actually rebuild the drive tho since that is usually only accessible on a boot. I think you can mirror in the OS. I just haven't done it. Yep, Harry the computer expert just doesn't know... Maybe you could explain why Harry would need a server. I have no idea why, he only has a few clients! I'd just get a one terabyte hard drive, hook it to a desktop computer, and for $80 when it's full, buy a new one and put the old one on a shelf. |
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:10:52 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:12 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:18:02 -0500, wrote: The 33xx drives just failed hard but they really didn't fail that often. Most failures didn't actually lose data unless you had a head crash. === Once your DASD farm got up to 1,000 plus drives of slightly aging 33xx's, unit failures became almost a weekly occurrence, each one requiring a huge amount of time and effort to recover the data. Nashua 3330 disk packs ;-) I didn't really see that many HDA related failures and we had lots of DASD. I agree the RAID 5 RAMAC made data loss a lot more rare but that really sets people up for a disaster. The more frequently you have a failure, the better you keep your stuff backed up. ==== The 3350s were better but not immune either. I think IBM was quoting a MTTF of something like 7 years but that is a statistical mean. Some fail quicker. Even at an average of 7 years, once you get to several thousand units the probability of experiencing a failure in any given week is quite high. |
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