On 11/11/11 7:15 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
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On 11/11/11 5:59 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
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On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself
get drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.
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That's not the impression you leave here Harry. You may not like John or
agree with him politically
or for other reasons, but you've often posed questions like:

"How many innocent Vietnamese did you kill?" and other quips to that
effect.

That's foul ball, IMO. John, me or anyone else that served in the
military didn't make policy.
We did what we took an oath to do. You may disagree with that, I might
even disagree
today, 43 years later and 43 years wiser, but at the time we did what we
were required to do.
It's not a subject to be taken lightly.

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It is perfectly reasonable to question those who took place in horrific
events because they were following orders. The so-called "Nuremberg
defense" is not an operable option. All we did in Vietnam, really, is
prop up a right-wing dictatorship until it finally fell. Once Buddhist
monks starting setting themselves on fire to protest the government we
were supporting, you have to ask yourself, "What the hell am I doing here?"

Vietnam was not WW II. We weren't on the side of the angels.

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Explain that to a 19-21 year old brought up under the influence of the
50's and early 60's.
I for one didn't know what the "Nuremberg Defense" was, let alone able
to spell it.

Eisboch


Come on, you went to a first-rate high school full of really bright
kids. I know, because I dated a lot of them. :) There were few
intellectual slouches I encountered among my buddies, male and female,
at Amity Regional. You were just entering high school, I bet, when that
terrific Spencer Tracey movie, Judgment at Nuremberg, came out. I'm sure
you saw it...everyone did. It's one of the best movies ever made.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
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Come on, you went to a first-rate high school full of really bright
kids. I know, because I dated a lot of them. :) There were few
intellectual slouches I encountered among my buddies, male and female,
at Amity Regional. You were just entering high school, I bet, when that
terrific Spencer Tracey movie, Judgment at Nuremberg, came out. I'm sure
you saw it...everyone did. It's one of the best movies ever made.

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Just because I attended Amity doesn't mean I was one of the "bright" ones.
I struggled at Amity. I was a transplant who didn't really fit in a very
affluent area and social culture.

I left Amity halfway through my senior year and graduated from a school back
in MA, BTW.
Funny thing was, when I registered at the high school in MA, I already had
all the college
courses and credits required to graduate per their curriculum requirements.
So, I goofed off for the rest of the year.

Eisboch

On 11/11/11 7:42 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
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Come on, you went to a first-rate high school full of really bright
kids. I know, because I dated a lot of them. :) There were few
intellectual slouches I encountered among my buddies, male and female,
at Amity Regional. You were just entering high school, I bet, when that
terrific Spencer Tracey movie, Judgment at Nuremberg, came out. I'm sure
you saw it...everyone did. It's one of the best movies ever made.

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Just because I attended Amity doesn't mean I was one of the "bright" ones.
I struggled at Amity. I was a transplant who didn't really fit in a very
affluent area and social culture.

I left Amity halfway through my senior year and graduated from a school
back in MA, BTW.
Funny thing was, when I registered at the high school in MA, I already
had all the college
courses and credits required to graduate per their curriculum requirements.
So, I goofed off for the rest of the year.

Eisboch




Ahhh. Amity is still a top high school, according to my buddies in
Woodbridge, Orange, et cetera. I was glad to hear that. Unfortunately,
the City of New Haven schools have not fared as well, though I've been
told the schools are improving. I drove through some areas of New Haven
a couple of months ago when I was up for a visit. I was happy to see
some of what I saw and disappointed with some of the rest. Upper Whalley
Avenue, from the Whalley Theater to downtown, is pretty grim.
Downtown, though, looks better than it did the last time I was there.