On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
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LAtest news...apparently one of the paid-off women received a check for
a full year's salary.

Nothing to talk about... snerk

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True or not true, guilty or not guilty, one thing that really ****es me off
is that the media can keep these women's identities
anonymous. Seems to me that if you are going to publically accuse someone
of wrongdoing, you should be identified.

This is particularly true *if* the allegations are true *and* the women
involved accepted any "settlement" in return for a
non-disclosure. Cain didn't bring the subject up. The media dug it out
of alleged "victims" who apparently agreed to
keep their mouths shut in the settlement.

Be it what it is, it's too bad. Herman Cain may be an oddity, maybe he's
financed by the Koch brothers, maybe he has a
fondness of women (he certainly wouldn't be the first ... and at least he
prefers the opposite sex) but the guy isn't a dummy.
His Bachelor's is in Mathematics, holds a Master's in Computer Science and
has a track record of success with Pillsbury in turning
around underperforming business units in record time. He may not be
presidential material, but he is certainly different and
somewhat entertaining.

Cain has no chance of beating President Obama. Actually, none of the
current Republican candidates do, including Romney.
Unless President Obama makes a huge, royal screw up in the next 12 months,
he will be elected to a second term. Not a
landslide by any means .... but I predict he will be victorious.

Eisboch

Glad to hear that, Richard. I made a wager with a guy on Huffington
Post that Obama was going to prevail. If I'm wrong, I have to
contribute to his church and if I'm right he has to give money to the
nearest chapter of Planned Parenthood.

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...



LAtest news...apparently one of the paid-off women received a check for
a full year's salary.

Nothing to talk about... snerk

----------------------------------------------

True or not true, guilty or not guilty, one thing that really ****es me off
is that the media can keep these women's identities
anonymous. Seems to me that if you are going to publically accuse someone
of wrongdoing, you should be identified.

This is particularly true *if* the allegations are true *and* the women
involved accepted any "settlement" in return for a
non-disclosure. Cain didn't bring the subject up. The media dug it out
of alleged "victims" who apparently agreed to
keep their mouths shut in the settlement.

Be it what it is, it's too bad. Herman Cain may be an oddity, maybe he's
financed by the Koch brothers, maybe he has a
fondness of women (he certainly wouldn't be the first ... and at least he
prefers the opposite sex) but the guy isn't a dummy.
His Bachelor's is in Mathematics, holds a Master's in Computer Science and
has a track record of success with Pillsbury in turning
around underperforming business units in record time. He may not be
presidential material, but he is certainly different and
somewhat entertaining.

Cain has no chance of beating President Obama. Actually, none of the
current Republican candidates do, including Romney.
Unless President Obama makes a huge, royal screw up in the next 12 months,
he will be elected to a second term. Not a
landslide by any means .... but I predict he will be victorious.

Eisboch

Yup. I was just thinking today how poorly the Republican party is representing itself with the
current crop of candidates. I'd like to see Gingrich debate Obama, just for the fun of it. I'd like
to see Boehner run. He seems to have some sense.

On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:21:21 -0400, John H
wrote:

Cain has no chance of beating President Obama. Actually, none of the
current Republican candidates do, including Romney.
Unless President Obama makes a huge, royal screw up in the next 12 months,
he will be elected to a second term. Not a
landslide by any means .... but I predict he will be victorious.

Eisboch

Yup. I was just thinking today how poorly the Republican party is representing itself with the
current crop of candidates. I'd like to see Gingrich debate Obama, just for the fun of it. I'd like
to see Boehner run. He seems to have some sense.

====

That's part of the problem: The people with "sense" don't want to
run.

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On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...



LAtest news...apparently one of the paid-off women received a check for
a full year's salary.

Nothing to talk about... snerk

----------------------------------------------

True or not true, guilty or not guilty, one thing that really ****es me off
is that the media can keep these women's identities
anonymous. Seems to me that if you are going to publically accuse someone
of wrongdoing, you should be identified.

This is particularly true *if* the allegations are true *and* the women
involved accepted any "settlement" in return for a
non-disclosure. Cain didn't bring the subject up. The media dug it out
of alleged "victims" who apparently agreed to
keep their mouths shut in the settlement.

Be it what it is, it's too bad. Herman Cain may be an oddity, maybe he's
financed by the Koch brothers, maybe he has a
fondness of women (he certainly wouldn't be the first ... and at least he
prefers the opposite sex) but the guy isn't a dummy.
His Bachelor's is in Mathematics, holds a Master's in Computer Science and
has a track record of success with Pillsbury in turning
around underperforming business units in record time. He may not be
presidential material, but he is certainly different and
somewhat entertaining.

Cain has no chance of beating President Obama. Actually, none of the
current Republican candidates do, including Romney.
Unless President Obama makes a huge, royal screw up in the next 12 months,
he will be elected to a second term. Not a
landslide by any means .... but I predict he will be victorious.

Eisboch

Yup. I was just thinking today how poorly the Republican party is representing itself with the
current crop of candidates. I'd like to see Gingrich debate Obama, just for the fun of it. I'd like
to see Boehner run. He seems to have some sense.

Yeah, Boehner, the guy who is single handedly to blame for not getting
people back to work via cooperation.

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says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:53:49 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

You know, at the current rate of Herman's recollecting, he's about a
week from admitting that okay, yeah, he raped and killed a few girls and
ate their livers with some nice chianti and used their skins to make a
nice winter coat for his wife?who comes up to his chin, you know?and
paid off their families with two or three or six months' pay and a
lifetime supply of pizza to keep it on the down low. But that's it.
Story's over, nothing to see here. Now let's talk about that 9-9-9 plan ...

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Sounds to me like you're just another racist.

Boy, the far right wingers these days sure are playing the race card
about Cain these days! Every single one I've heard is saying that the
sexual harassment stuff is because no one on the left wants a black
conservative, which is silly, of course. But, remember, these same
talking heads, Rush, Hannity, etc. sure cried foul when they thought
that the left (and a lot on the left were) calling the right racist
because they didn't like Obama.

On 11/2/11 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:53:49 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Tue Nov 01, 2011 at 12:30 PM PDT -KOS

Herman Cain re-remembers amount of hush money paid to employees

If the restaurant association did a settlement, I wasn’t even aware
of it and I hope it wasn’t for much. If there was a settlement, it was
handled by some of the other officers at the restaurant association.

Herman Cain a few hours later:

Maybe three months' salary. I don't remember. It might have been
two months. I do remember my general counsel saying we didn't pay all of
the money they demanded.

Herman Cain today:

The financial settlement with the accuser "was in the vicinity of 3
to 6 months' severance pay," he said, adding that the payment was "not
outside our guidelines for what most people get ... when they leave the
Restaurant Association involuntarily."

So in the span of 24 hours:

He knows nothing about a settlement.
Okay, he knows about a settlement, but it was only two to three
months' salary.
Okay, that settlement he didn't know about yesterday, but then
remembered it was only two to three months' salary, was actually three
to six months.

You know, at the current rate of Herman's recollecting, he's about a
week from admitting that okay, yeah, he raped and killed a few girls and
ate their livers with some nice chianti and used their skins to make a
nice winter coat for his wife—who comes up to his chin, you know—and
paid off their families with two or three or six months' pay and a
lifetime supply of pizza to keep it on the down low. But that's it.
Story's over, nothing to see here. Now let's talk about that 9-9-9 plan ...


I suppose it all depends on what the woman was doing. If she was
standing in front of him and he was holding his hand under his chin
saying she was a short as his wife, it may be a slur on short people
but it is not sexist.
If she was kneeling getting something out of a file cabinet and he was
holding his hand at belt buckle height, they might have a case,
particularly if he made the flat head, beer joke.




I doubt there would be a settlement for telling a woman "You're the same
height as my wife." Also keep in mind there are at least two different
women in this particular anecdote.

On 02/11/2011 10:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/2/11 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:53:49 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Tue Nov 01, 2011 at 12:30 PM PDT -KOS

Herman Cain re-remembers amount of hush money paid to employees

If the restaurant association did a settlement, I wasn’t even aware
of it and I hope it wasn’t for much. If there was a settlement, it was
handled by some of the other officers at the restaurant association.

Herman Cain a few hours later:

Maybe three months' salary. I don't remember. It might have been
two months. I do remember my general counsel saying we didn't pay all of
the money they demanded.

Herman Cain today:

The financial settlement with the accuser "was in the vicinity of 3
to 6 months' severance pay," he said, adding that the payment was "not
outside our guidelines for what most people get ... when they leave the
Restaurant Association involuntarily."

So in the span of 24 hours:

He knows nothing about a settlement.
Okay, he knows about a settlement, but it was only two to three
months' salary.
Okay, that settlement he didn't know about yesterday, but then
remembered it was only two to three months' salary, was actually three
to six months.

You know, at the current rate of Herman's recollecting, he's about a
week from admitting that okay, yeah, he raped and killed a few girls and
ate their livers with some nice chianti and used their skins to make a
nice winter coat for his wife—who comes up to his chin, you know—and
paid off their families with two or three or six months' pay and a
lifetime supply of pizza to keep it on the down low. But that's it.
Story's over, nothing to see here. Now let's talk about that 9-9-9
plan ...


I suppose it all depends on what the woman was doing. If she was
standing in front of him and he was holding his hand under his chin
saying she was a short as his wife, it may be a slur on short people
but it is not sexist.
If she was kneeling getting something out of a file cabinet and he was
holding his hand at belt buckle height, they might have a case,
particularly if he made the flat head, beer joke.




I doubt there would be a settlement for telling a woman "You're the same
height as my wife." Also keep in mind there are at least two different
women in this particular anecdote.

I was listening to Ann Coulter on CNN last night and she raised a good
point. In the early 90's men had to be worried about women entrapping
them. Companies even mandated "Sexual harassment training" and some do
to this day.

But agree, there is more to it than height. But no criminal
charges...no details....smells of smear.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

On 11/2/11 12:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote:

I was listening to Ann Coulter...

There's one of your problems right there.

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says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:53:49 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Tue Nov 01, 2011 at 12:30 PM PDT -KOS

Herman Cain re-remembers amount of hush money paid to employees

If the restaurant association did a settlement, I wasn?t even aware
of it and I hope it wasn?t for much. If there was a settlement, it was
handled by some of the other officers at the restaurant association.

Herman Cain a few hours later:

Maybe three months' salary. I don't remember. It might have been
two months. I do remember my general counsel saying we didn't pay all of
the money they demanded.

Herman Cain today:

The financial settlement with the accuser "was in the vicinity of 3
to 6 months' severance pay," he said, adding that the payment was "not
outside our guidelines for what most people get ... when they leave the
Restaurant Association involuntarily."

So in the span of 24 hours:

He knows nothing about a settlement.
Okay, he knows about a settlement, but it was only two to three
months' salary.
Okay, that settlement he didn't know about yesterday, but then
remembered it was only two to three months' salary, was actually three
to six months.

You know, at the current rate of Herman's recollecting, he's about a
week from admitting that okay, yeah, he raped and killed a few girls and
ate their livers with some nice chianti and used their skins to make a
nice winter coat for his wife?who comes up to his chin, you know?and
paid off their families with two or three or six months' pay and a
lifetime supply of pizza to keep it on the down low. But that's it.
Story's over, nothing to see here. Now let's talk about that 9-9-9 plan ...


I suppose it all depends on what the woman was doing. If she was
standing in front of him and he was holding his hand under his chin
saying she was a short as his wife, it may be a slur on short people
but it is not sexist.
If she was kneeling getting something out of a file cabinet and he was
holding his hand at belt buckle height, they might have a case,
particularly if he made the flat head, beer joke.


The far lefties have already prosecuted him without knowing what
happened yet. And I see by Harry's remark about a settlement meaning
there was some foul play, that he doesn't realize that many, many times
in this litigious society that it's quicker, and less costly to just pay
than defend.