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On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:
On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. |
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On 10/30/11 12:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil wrote: On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. Translation: If we change anything in this country in economics, manufacturing, whatever, rich people in the United States *might* have a tad less income to hoard and not invest in this country. Maybe. Therefore, we should leave everything alone, even though those with middle class or lower incomes are going right down the tubes. The reality is that goods are not necessarily any less expensive for consumers when they manufactured overseas in countries that pay close to slave labor wages. The difference is that instead of making, say, a $15 net profit on an item made in the USA that wholesales for $100, the multinational corporation takes that manufacturing to China, where its net profit, including shipping, on that $100 at wholesale item is now $55. It still wholesales in the USA for the same price and retails for the same price, too. There's no difference in the price the consumer pays, just in the percentage of profit the manufacturer pockets. It's just greed that takes manufacturing overseas. It's still profitable to manufacture here, it's just not *as* profitable. We're heading for a restructuring of society in this country. We're either going to end up with a peaceful transition that produces equity for the middle and lower income groups or there will be blood in the streets. And you know what? Sooner rather than later the majority of police and other enforcers of civil behavior will realize *they* are getting ****ed by the rich, too. |
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On 10/30/2011 8:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/30/11 12:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil wrote: On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. Translation: If we change anything in this country in economics, manufacturing, whatever, rich people in the United States *might* have a tad less income to hoard and not invest in this country. Maybe. Therefore, we should leave everything alone, even though those with middle class or lower incomes are going right down the tubes. The reality is that goods are not necessarily any less expensive for consumers when they manufactured overseas in countries that pay close to slave labor wages. The difference is that instead of making, say, a $15 net profit on an item made in the USA that wholesales for $100, the multinational corporation takes that manufacturing to China, where its net profit, including shipping, on that $100 at wholesale item is now $55. It still wholesales in the USA for the same price and retails for the same price, too. There's no difference in the price the consumer pays, just in the percentage of profit the manufacturer pockets. It's just greed that takes manufacturing overseas. It's still profitable to manufacture here, it's just not *as* profitable. We're heading for a restructuring of society in this country. We're either going to end up with a peaceful transition that produces equity for the middle and lower income groups or there will be blood in the streets. And you know what? Sooner rather than later the majority of police and other enforcers of civil behavior will realize *they* are getting ****ed by the rich, too. Got any hard data to support your bull**** hypothetical scenario? |
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On 10/30/2011 8:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/30/11 12:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil wrote: On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. Translation: If we change anything in this country in economics, manufacturing, whatever, rich people in the United States *might* have a tad less income to hoard and not invest in this country. Maybe. Therefore, we should leave everything alone, even though those with middle class or lower incomes are going right down the tubes. The reality is that goods are not necessarily any less expensive for consumers when they manufactured overseas in countries that pay close to slave labor wages. The difference is that instead of making, say, a $15 net profit on an item made in the USA that wholesales for $100, the multinational corporation takes that manufacturing to China, where its net profit, including shipping, on that $100 at wholesale item is now $55. It still wholesales in the USA for the same price and retails for the same price, too. There's no difference in the price the consumer pays, just in the percentage of profit the manufacturer pockets. It's just greed that takes manufacturing overseas. It's still profitable to manufacture here, it's just not *as* profitable. We're heading for a restructuring of society in this country. We're either going to end up with a peaceful transition that produces equity for the middle and lower income groups or there will be blood in the streets. And you know what? Sooner rather than later the majority of police and other enforcers of civil behavior will realize *they* are getting ****ed by the rich, too. I read yours and previous poster. That's a lot of Global Corp. pop talk. When Sam Walton started his buy America Campaign and before no one was complaining about American made quality goods costing too much. The reason for the Global Free Trade Agenda was increased profits for the Global Investor. Some prices went down because it was inferior stuff but mostly just profit margins increased. You don't understand that Americans concerns, jobs, taxes, security, are not part or any of their concerns. It is Washington's or ours. Everything transpiring there now is the global agenda including trade governance etc. There has been nothing from any, of the Candidates about busting Monopolies and tax policies on these outfits, that basically are treating America and Americans as a colony, of the Global Corporate world. Turning America down, to level the playing field, of whatever the lowest common denominator is, perhaps Zimbabwe, is what it is all about. Massive wealth requires poverty. The few that comprise the Global Ownership ruling the peasantry. Global Feudalism? Whatever it is it is Washington's job to maintain the Republic and ensure Americans prosperity and sovereignty among other things. It is not to further global governance or dominance of America And Americans by Global Corporations. Why aren't we hearing anything about returning American's preeminence in Production? Why are we hearing nothing but blame Americans? Blame Unions? Blame out of work Americans greed? Americans have had it too easy for too long. Americans are going to have to learn to pay a lot more for a lot less. Is this your vision of how it should be? Blame America. More sustainable economy European Socialism, deprivation and sacrifice? We're not righteous unless we are as poor as Asia??? you like the Brussels Socialist Bilderberg design??? There is just so many assaults continuing on America you cannot lump them all into one creature or I cant' except they are all Greed of wealth and power. Don;'t agree or can't? |
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says... On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:51:52 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 10/30/11 8:40 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil wrote: On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. The military/aerospace industries, through the ages, have provided us with quit a few useful things. The first that comes to mind is the Roman road system. Our large-scale military adventurism the last six decades as provided us with nothing but budget deficits. I suppose we could say the arms race got us the micro chip, the internet, the GPS system., better RADAR systems, better jet planes and most of the space program with all of the stuff that came out of that. (communication satellites, the Hubble telescope and Tang). Just the things that came out of DARPA is impressive. It is also the biggest jobs program in history. It is a shame the public would not have been willing to pay that much for something less destructive but fear is a powerful force. As Zig Zigler says,. there are only two things that make people spend their money, fear and love and they always spend more in response to fear. Amazing, one of the Constitutional duties of the federal government is looked upon as a jobs program. |
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On 10/30/11 2:57 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:08:36 -0400, wrote: In , says... Our large-scale military adventurism the last six decades as provided us with nothing but budget deficits. I suppose we could say the arms race got us the micro chip, the internet, the GPS system., better RADAR systems, better jet planes and most of the space program with all of the stuff that came out of that. (communication satellites, the Hubble telescope and Tang). Just the things that came out of DARPA is impressive. It is also the biggest jobs program in history. It is a shame the public would not have been willing to pay that much for something less destructive but fear is a powerful force. As Zig Zigler says,. there are only two things that make people spend their money, fear and love and they always spend more in response to fear. Amazing, one of the Constitutional duties of the federal government is looked upon as a jobs program. What our DoD is doing goes far beyond defending our borders. Nobody we have been at war with since 1945 has attacked or even threatened to attack the US. Before you start throwing 9-11 at me, remember virtually everyone involved in 9-11 was Saudi and most of the planning was done in Europe. The critical training was done in the US. I was planning on enlisting once the Viet Cong invaded Topeka but then I thought about it some more and concluded that Topeka might be a better place if it were run by the Viet Cong. Certainly the pho would be a lot better. I got some alleged Chinese food in Topeka in the mid-1960's, and the Chinese noodles were actual strands of spaghetti. |
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On 10/30/2011 3:04 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/30/11 2:57 PM, wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:08:36 -0400, wrote: In , says... Our large-scale military adventurism the last six decades as provided us with nothing but budget deficits. I suppose we could say the arms race got us the micro chip, the internet, the GPS system., better RADAR systems, better jet planes and most of the space program with all of the stuff that came out of that. (communication satellites, the Hubble telescope and Tang). Just the things that came out of DARPA is impressive. It is also the biggest jobs program in history. It is a shame the public would not have been willing to pay that much for something less destructive but fear is a powerful force. As Zig Zigler says,. there are only two things that make people spend their money, fear and love and they always spend more in response to fear. Amazing, one of the Constitutional duties of the federal government is looked upon as a jobs program. What our DoD is doing goes far beyond defending our borders. Nobody we have been at war with since 1945 has attacked or even threatened to attack the US. Before you start throwing 9-11 at me, remember virtually everyone involved in 9-11 was Saudi and most of the planning was done in Europe. The critical training was done in the US. I was planning on enlisting once the Viet Cong invaded Topeka but then I thought about it some more and concluded that Topeka might be a better place if it were run by the Viet Cong. Certainly the pho would be a lot better. I got some alleged Chinese food in Topeka in the mid-1960's, and the Chinese noodles were actual strands of spaghetti. Fo noolin? |
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