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TopBassDog October 23rd 11 02:29 AM

Krause and his buddies
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

iBoaterer[_2_] October 23rd 11 02:30 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
In article 977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com, says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?


Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

BAR[_2_] October 23rd 11 03:53 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
In article ,
says...

In article 977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?


Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.


The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

JustWait October 23rd 11 04:03 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?


Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.


The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.


Does that surprise you?

X ` Man[_3_] October 23rd 11 04:08 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.


The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.


Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."

BAR[_2_] October 23rd 11 04:17 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.


Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


What a great comeback Krause. They did it first! You sound like a child.



X ` Man[_3_] October 23rd 11 04:23 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/11 11:17 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleBqadnWpBW99_sDnTnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


What a great comeback Krause. They did it first! You sound like a child.



Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

JustWait October 23rd 11 04:40 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 11:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.


Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


I am sure there is plenty of video of corporate types out there picking
on little kids and wives, holding baseball bats right?

JustWait October 23rd 11 04:41 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 11:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:17 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleBqadnWpBW99_sDnTnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the
confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?

All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


What a great comeback Krause. They did it first! You sound like a child.



Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.


Show me the video...

X ` Man[_3_] October 23rd 11 04:48 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/11 11:40 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 11:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the
confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


I am sure there is plenty of video of corporate types out there picking
on little kids and wives, holding baseball bats right?


D'oh. You need something more than the Wonderbook Dictionary to know
what "thug" and "thuggery" mean.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 23rd 11 07:05 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/23/2011 11:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


I am sure there is plenty of video of corporate types out there picking
on little kids and wives, holding baseball bats right?


So, do you think what the corporate rich is doing is okay?

Canuck57[_9_] October 23rd 11 09:43 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 22/10/2011 7:29 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?


Guess the national socialists are using black this time around. Just
union bully fleabaggers needing unemployment to fix their attitude.

Teamster boys also look like skin heads, my does history repeat or what?
Nazi skin head rally by night, Teamster by day.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Canuck57[_9_] October 23rd 11 09:44 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 23/10/2011 8:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?


Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.


The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.


More than escalated, instigated. He approached the fight, tossed the
first push. Just a union bully.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Canuck57[_9_] October 23rd 11 09:46 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 23/10/2011 9:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.


Does that surprise you?


All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


I don't know, union corruption is every where and goes back a long time.

http://nlpc.org/union-corruption-update

Yep, liberal-socialists are against bullying unless of course they are
the ones doing the bullying.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Canuck57[_9_] October 23rd 11 09:47 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 23/10/2011 9:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:17 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleBqadnWpBW99_sDnTnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the
confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?

All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


What a great comeback Krause. They did it first! You sound like a child.



Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.


Why? Because they provide jobs and people have to take them?
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Canuck57[_9_] October 23rd 11 09:51 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 23/10/2011 12:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/23/2011 11:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?

All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


I am sure there is plenty of video of corporate types out there picking
on little kids and wives, holding baseball bats right?


So, do you think what the corporate rich is doing is okay?


Depends, are they crooked or honest?

Crooked, go hang them for all I care. Just look at the bailouts 0bama
gives out and go for them. Those are the corrupt ones, corrupt bailouts
our grand kids will have to pay for.

Honest ones, leave them be. They provide free of bailout and free of
taxpayer rape investment capital for jobs. If they are not investing
right now, could be because they are also worried be they corrupt people
or corrupt government they will loose it.

Lots of honest rich out there that made it fairly without ****ing people
over.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

X ` Man[_3_] October 23rd 11 09:54 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/11 4:47 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/10/2011 9:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:17 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleBqadnWpBW99_sDnTnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the
confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?

All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."

What a great comeback Krause. They did it first! You sound like a child.



Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.


Why? Because they provide jobs and people have to take them?


Whoooooooosh! Are you after Scotty's rice bowl?

JustWait October 23rd 11 10:17 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 11:48 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:40 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 11:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the
confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?

All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."


I am sure there is plenty of video of corporate types out there picking
on little kids and wives, holding baseball bats right?


D'oh. You need something more than the Wonderbook Dictionary to know
what "thug" and "thuggery" mean.


Maybe, but even more, I know when I see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjnPhIvDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7L_cuQJ1pQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_Fl3AszuU

and this guy should have been shot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxjahek0f8

So, show me the tea party acting like little bitches like these cowardly
pieces of ****?



Eisboch[_8_] October 24th 11 03:09 AM

Krause and his buddies
 


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.


JustWait October 24th 11 03:21 AM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...

X ` Man[_3_] October 24th 11 10:26 AM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/11 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

The origins of the union movement date back to the Middle Ages and the
craft guilds, which were mostly based in small towns and were unrelated
to the guilds in nearby or faraway towns. The predecessors of the guilds
go back a thousand years before that.

We let the cows out of the barn when we sort of gave up on anti-trust
regulations and allowed big corporations/banks, et cetera, to become
what many of them are today, consciousless entities that suck up and
discard all manner of resources, human and material, no matter the
social consequences.

X ` Man October 24th 11 10:30 AM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/11 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...


It's too bad you never hooked up with a union apprenticeship program
that might have taught you some marketable skills. Here you are, in your
50's, and you have nothing to offer a prospective employer. Sucks to be
you.

Eisboch[_8_] October 24th 11 12:47 PM

Krause and his buddies
 


"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 10/23/11 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

The origins of the union movement date back to the Middle Ages and the
craft guilds, which were mostly based in small towns and were unrelated
to the guilds in nearby or faraway towns. The predecessors of the guilds
go back a thousand years before that.

We let the cows out of the barn when we sort of gave up on anti-trust
regulations and allowed big corporations/banks, et cetera, to become
what many of them are today, consciousless entities that suck up and
discard all manner of resources, human and material, no matter the
social consequences.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

We don't live in the Middle Ages. We don't even live in the 1950's -
1960's ages.

My only objection to your endless bashing of business is the broad brush
with which you paint.
There are 1000's of businesses , big and small, that respect and value
their employees and treat
them fairly. Many wish they could offer more.

The challenge in most today is the rising costs of doing business led by
health insurance
premiums and benefit packages that are no longer financially supported in
shrinking markets due to overseas
competition. The biggest challenge many have is the ability to *stay* in
business.

I'll get clobbered for saying this in this newsgroup, but I understand what
Mitt Romney means when he
says that a Corporation is a "person". I always subscribed to that when I
owned a serious business.
A Corporation is the personification of the whole group who benefit by it's
existence. This includes
employees, management and stockholders, private or public. As a manager of
a business it behooves
you to protect it, nurture it and grow it in a healthy way because it
benefits all involved. If the business
succeeds, so do all that are involved, including it's customer base.

Yes, there are some that are abusing management power for personal gain.
But to include all businesses
as the "enemy" that your posts tend to imply is simply not accurate.




X ` Man[_3_] October 24th 11 01:01 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/11 7:47 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 10/23/11 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

The origins of the union movement date back to the Middle Ages and the
craft guilds, which were mostly based in small towns and were unrelated
to the guilds in nearby or faraway towns. The predecessors of the guilds
go back a thousand years before that.

We let the cows out of the barn when we sort of gave up on anti-trust
regulations and allowed big corporations/banks, et cetera, to become
what many of them are today, consciousless entities that suck up and
discard all manner of resources, human and material, no matter the
social consequences.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

We don't live in the Middle Ages. We don't even live in the 1950's -
1960's ages.

My only objection to your endless bashing of business is the broad brush
with which you paint.
There are 1000's of businesses , big and small, that respect and value
their employees and treat
them fairly. Many wish they could offer more.

The challenge in most today is the rising costs of doing business led by
health insurance
premiums and benefit packages that are no longer financially supported
in shrinking markets due to overseas
competition. The biggest challenge many have is the ability to *stay* in
business.

I'll get clobbered for saying this in this newsgroup, but I understand
what Mitt Romney means when he
says that a Corporation is a "person". I always subscribed to that when
I owned a serious business.
A Corporation is the personification of the whole group who benefit by
it's existence. This includes
employees, management and stockholders, private or public. As a manager
of a business it behooves
you to protect it, nurture it and grow it in a healthy way because it
benefits all involved. If the business
succeeds, so do all that are involved, including it's customer base.

Yes, there are some that are abusing management power for personal gain.
But to include all businesses
as the "enemy" that your posts tend to imply is simply not accurate.





I'll get clobbered for saying this by the few other moderate to liberals
in here, but I think Mitt Romney, based upon his term as governor of
Massachusetts, is a perfectly reasonable and rational Republican
candidate. I don't agree with a number of his positions, especially the
ones he is espousing these days, but I think many of them are aimed at
the crackpot hardcore GOP base that wants doctrinaire candidates.

I won't vote for Romney, but I don't think he is a crackpot or an
embarrassment. I actually liked his father a lot more.

As for the two other GOP probables, the moron from Texas and the pizza
king guy, I don't see either as qualified to pick up trash.

I also support your position on health care and benefits as paid by the
corporations still offering them. The cost of providing these does work
against our competitiveness in a world market fighting for the lowest
possible labor costs, everything else be damned. Unfortunately, we've
never developed an alternative in this country, other than offering no
benefits. We're not paying the average worker in this country enough to
be able to afford health insurance *and* food and shelter for his or her
family. The same is true of retirement. How is the average wage worker
supposed to accumulate enough to put together a decent retirement plan?
And depend upon Wall Street and shares in corporate America to provide
dependable growth?

There's no question we need a national program of health care and
retirement assurance for all. There's also no question that so long as
the current crop of Republicans is in office, we'll have neither.

I've stated several times here I like the Swiss system of providing
health care coverage.



Drifter[_2_] October 24th 11 01:25 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.


Krause is like a snake trying to eat its tail.

Drifter[_2_] October 24th 11 01:45 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/23/2011 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...


Krause acknowledges there are at least two classes of thugs, corps. and
unions. There are more of course but lets keep it simple for Krause. He
doesn't understand that one of them depends on the other but the reverse
is not true. Rid this country of unions before there are no corporations
left.

Eisboch[_8_] October 24th 11 01:48 PM

Krause and his buddies
 


"X ` Man" wrote in message
...


I'll get clobbered for saying this by the few other moderate to liberals
in here, but I think Mitt Romney, based upon his term as governor of
Massachusetts, is a perfectly reasonable and rational Republican
candidate. I don't agree with a number of his positions, especially the
ones he is espousing these days, but I think many of them are aimed at
the crackpot hardcore GOP base that wants doctrinaire candidates.

I won't vote for Romney, but I don't think he is a crackpot or an
embarrassment. I actually liked his father a lot more.

As for the two other GOP probables, the moron from Texas and the pizza
king guy, I don't see either as qualified to pick up trash.

I also support your position on health care and benefits as paid by the
corporations still offering them. The cost of providing these does work
against our competitiveness in a world market fighting for the lowest
possible labor costs, everything else be damned. Unfortunately, we've
never developed an alternative in this country, other than offering no
benefits. We're not paying the average worker in this country enough to
be able to afford health insurance *and* food and shelter for his or her
family. The same is true of retirement. How is the average wage worker
supposed to accumulate enough to put together a decent retirement plan?
And depend upon Wall Street and shares in corporate America to provide
dependable growth?

There's no question we need a national program of health care and
retirement assurance for all. There's also no question that so long as
the current crop of Republicans is in office, we'll have neither.

I've stated several times here I like the Swiss system of providing
health care coverage.
---------------------------------------------------------

We agree on the problems and even some of the paths to solutions.
Costs need to be controlled. A broken leg requires a cast. It doesn't
require 4 MRI's, a specialist and then .... a cast.

401K plans are *not* retirement plans. They are legalized betting plans.
Anyone who is heavily invested in a 401K or similar plan thinking it
will provide for them in their golden years are nuts, IMO. My company
offered one because it was desired by the employees but I personally
never participated in it.

Agree with your assessment of the goofball from Texas. He makes
George Bush look like Einstein.

Biggest disappointment with Obama is that "Change" is really "No Change".
For almost three years he has been promoting Wall Street solutions to Main
Street problems, just like all big government politicians. Only recently
did
his administration seem to catch on to what Main Street is crying ....
"Jobs".
Yet, he still seems to think that pouring more money into a broken system
is the solution.





iBoaterer[_2_] October 24th 11 02:01 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/23/2011 11:48 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:40 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 11:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 11:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In article977c8b69-8d0c-447b-8809-991c58843609
@m1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com,
says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjn...eature=related

Isn't that you with the bull horn, Herr Krause?

Looks to me like the dude in the white shirt started the
confrontation,
even though I have no use for any union that acts like that.

The union thug escalated the interaction to a physical altercation.

Does that surprise you?

All the "union thuggery" since time began doesn't add up to a year of
"corporate thuggery."

I am sure there is plenty of video of corporate types out there picking
on little kids and wives, holding baseball bats right?


D'oh. You need something more than the Wonderbook Dictionary to know
what "thug" and "thuggery" mean.


Maybe, but even more, I know when I see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQjnPhIvDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7L_cuQJ1pQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_Fl3AszuU

and this guy should have been shot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxjahek0f8

So, show me the tea party acting like little bitches like these cowardly
pieces of ****?


Got any videos of the Occupiers proving, as you said, that there are no
people of color? Didn't think so.

North Star October 24th 11 02:22 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On Oct 23, 11:21*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.


Halliburton - thugs.


---------------------------------------------------------


Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.


No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.


Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?

North Star October 24th 11 02:24 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On Oct 24, 6:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/23/11 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:





On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
news:bqKdnXHOQr77rDnTnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink. com...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.


Halliburton - thugs.


---------------------------------------------------------


Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.


No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.


Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...


It's too bad you never hooked up with a union apprenticeship program
that might have taught you some marketable skills. Here you are, in your
50's, and you have nothing to offer a prospective employer. Sucks to be
you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well.. he can offer a bad attitude and a criminally insane mentality.
Much demand for that stateside these days?

JustWait October 24th 11 02:30 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.


Halliburton - thugs.


---------------------------------------------------------


Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.


No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.


Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...

X ` Man[_3_] October 24th 11 02:30 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/11 9:24 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:30 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/23/11 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:





On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.


Halliburton - thugs.


---------------------------------------------------------


Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.


No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.


Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...


It's too bad you never hooked up with a union apprenticeship program
that might have taught you some marketable skills. Here you are, in your
50's, and you have nothing to offer a prospective employer. Sucks to be
you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well.. he can offer a bad attitude and a criminally insane mentality.
Much demand for that stateside these days?


Only if you are seeking the GOP presidential nomination.


X ` Man[_3_] October 24th 11 02:32 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/11 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...



You atill park that motorbike in the kitchen?

JustWait October 24th 11 02:34 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/24/11 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...



You atill park that motorbike in the kitchen?


Besides what do you care, do you have something to add to the
conversation or are you just trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America? Do you sit there all day long just
waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a one line comment
or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does Dr. Karen Grear
of Catholic University of America, know you have spent the last ten
years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK,
Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line, insult/troll
posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends his days and nights
sharing your hate and misery here an all over then net. Anybody who has
five minutes to look back at your posts over the last ten years will see
that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house man, step away from the
keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
You still stalking women and little girls/little boys??? Besides,

X ` Man[_3_] October 24th 11 02:39 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/11 9:34 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/24/11 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and
to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?

So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...



You atill park that motorbike in the kitchen?


Besides what do you care,



Apparently the answer is "yes."

Drifter[_2_] October 24th 11 02:48 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.


Halliburton - thugs.


---------------------------------------------------------


Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.


No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.


Big, bad corporations.


Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


Other than the fact that you are a really dull blade, why would you need
a union's help to put in a days work.

JustWait October 24th 11 02:49 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:39 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/24/11 9:34 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/24/11 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and
to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care
....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?

So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...


You atill park that motorbike in the kitchen?


Besides what do you care,



Apparently the answer is "yes."


Nope, but what do you care, do you have something to add to the
conversation or are you just trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America? Do you sit there all day long just
waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a one line comment
or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does Dr. Karen Grear
of Catholic University of America, know you have spent the last ten
years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK,
Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line, insult/troll
posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends his days and nights
sharing your hate and misery here an all over then net. Anybody who has
five minutes to look back at your posts over the last ten years will see
that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house man, step away from the
keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America

Drifter[_2_] October 24th 11 02:50 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...


He was a bottle capper at the beer plant by day, and by night he was
known to uncap a few.

JustWait October 24th 11 02:51 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:48 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


Other than the fact that you are a really dull blade, why would you need
a union's help to put in a days work.


Harry Krause wouldn't know... It's obvious to anybody who reads he
hasn't had a job since summer school in his high school days. He spends
his days living off his landlord's paycheck and squandering his parents
money.

Drifter[_2_] October 24th 11 02:52 PM

Krause and his buddies
 
On 10/24/2011 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/24/11 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/24/2011 9:22 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:21 pm, wrote:
On 10/23/2011 10:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:







"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

Corporations not only "did it first," they are still doing it and to a
greater degree than all the unions have since the beginning of time.
Of course, you boys don't know what the word "thug" means. The word
derives from Hindi, and it includes "cheats" and "swindlers" in its
first definitions.

Halliburton - thugs.

---------------------------------------------------------

Gee. Just think of a world without big, bad corporations.
There would be no need for unions .....
because there would be no jobs.

No jobs .... no taxes ....
no taxes .... no entitlements ...
no Social Security ..... no Health Insurance .... no health care ....
no anything.

Big, bad corporations.

Well, if you think about it. Unions are the one thing in that list we
don't really need...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In your case that would be correct.
If you have no interest in putting in a days work why would you need a
union?


So Bonnie, you still never said what you did for work. Pushing a broom
and occupying a bar stool all night instead of raising your kids or
cleaning the slime hole you made your wife and kids slither around in
for years, is nothing to brag about...



You atill park that motorbike in the kitchen?


Do you keep yours in your big red barn?


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