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"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Given both in good condition (survey etc) - might I get some feedback
from this fine group on the following two boats? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/2/50710772.htm http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/8/40244748.htm Thanks much... tcGb, -trevor |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Not much to go on. It looks like the larson may be better equipped, but
I like the interior style of the bayliner. The bayliner is newer, but that doesn't necessarily mean squat. I guess it comes down to what you think. Bob Dimond In article , (Trevor) wrote: Given both in good condition (survey etc) - might I get some feedback from this fine group on the following two boats? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/2/50710772.htm http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/8/40244748.htm Thanks much... tcGb, -trevor |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Well ... the Larson comes with a guy with a beard and 2 little kids ... -1
point. The Larson has imo an excellent trailer ... with brakes ... I'd need those brakes if I was trailering this size boat ... 2 points. They both are (look to be) equally powered ... 4.3 mercruiser, alpha outdrive ... but is that adequate power for 20 ' fiberglass boat? I myself don't think so if I was planning on bringing along company. The Bayliner looks to have been well looked after ... or maybe hardly used ... 1 point. Does that look like a new lower unit? Hmmm ... 1/2 point. If it was me and I could upgrade the trailer, I'd take (virtually that is) the Bayliner. "Trevor" wrote in message om... Given both in good condition (survey etc) - might I get some feedback from this fine group on the following two boats? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/2/50710772.htm http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/8/40244748.htm Thanks much... tcGb, -trevor |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
To answer your horsepower question I had a 1995 Bayliner 2052 Cuddy much like
the one in the ad. It was powered by a 4.3LX 190 HP engine and with just me in the boat would top out a 57 mph (according to the GPS). This was before the selective availability was turned off so I don't know if that affected the speed readings. With 5 aboard 4 adults and 1 child it would still do 52 MPH so it was fast. It was not a bad boat but I moved up to a 26 footer after this boat to get back into the cruiser catagory. The Larson looks nice too so you are the one that has to make the choice as to which suits your needs best. A 20' boat is mainly IMO an inland lake or river boat although I did have mine out on Lake Erie several times but only during "nice" conditions. Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it is a valuable plant. |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Aww.. come on! A 20 foot boat out in Lake Erie only in nice conditions?
If you overnight in it you might as well take it out in a little bit of weather 'cause you and I both know on Lake Erie you going to hit it anyway! Bob Dimond P.S. I moved up to a 23. Wish I could move up to a 26 though :^) It was not a bad boat but I moved up to a 26 footer after this boat to get back into the cruiser catagory. The Larson looks nice too so you are the one that has to make the choice as to which suits your needs best. A 20' boat is mainly IMO an inland lake or river boat although I did have mine out on Lake Erie several times but only during "nice" conditions. |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Aww.. come on! A 20 foot boat out in Lake Erie only in nice conditions?
If you overnight in it you might as well take it out in a little bit of weather 'cause you and I both know on Lake Erie you going to hit it anyway! Egging a guy out into conditions beyond the capabilities of his boat is not the mark of a serious mariner. Might as well check the VHF marine weather forecast, as well as current conditions. Might as well pay careful attention to reports from monitoring stations in the weather quarter. Might as well consult a barometer and see if it's rising or falling at your specific location. The weather doesn't give a rip snort how tough you or I think we might be, or pay much attention to the marketing claims of one builder vs. another. Light displacement, low freeboard, shallow draft boats with flat transoms (not to mention open foredecks, no bow flare, etc) are fair weather playthings. Just because you can take one out in ridiculous conditions and avoid death, (a percentage of the time), doesn't make the practice advisable. It's one thing to get caught out in the snot and have to work your way to shelter. It's another thing entirely to put out in a small boat into the teeth of a big wind. |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Sorry, Gould, but I don't completely agree. First of all I'm not telling
people to make a crossing in gale force winds. Second a small boat can handle quite a bit IF YOU KNOW HOW TO MINIMIZE WEATHER ON YOUR BOAT! Also, I've said in previous post. If you are using a boat to travel any distance and/or overnight away form home port on Lake Erie, you better DAMN WELL have a feel for a little rough water, because sooner or later IT WILL FIND YOU. Gould, Lake Erie can kick up to a mess in a little as fifteen minutes. If you an hour away from homeport then what? It's better to get some PLANNED experience going out a little at a time but staying close to home port to get acquainted/acclimated to harder conditions, rather than sit tied to the dock all season or worse, caught having to travel a great distance in bad water without any prior experience. That's my take on it. If you want to put a derrogatory label on me by all means. Bob Dimond In article , (Gould 0738) wrote: Aww.. come on! A 20 foot boat out in Lake Erie only in nice conditions? If you overnight in it you might as well take it out in a little bit of weather 'cause you and I both know on Lake Erie you going to hit it anyway! Egging a guy out into conditions beyond the capabilities of his boat is not the mark of a serious mariner. |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Hey Bob! didn't know you were up here..
Bob D. wrote: Sorry, Gould, but I don't completely agree. First of all I'm not telling people to make a crossing in gale force winds. Second a small boat can handle quite a bit IF YOU KNOW HOW TO MINIMIZE WEATHER ON YOUR BOAT! Also, I've said in previous post. If you are using a boat to travel any distance and/or overnight away form home port on Lake Erie, you better DAMN WELL have a feel for a little rough water, because sooner or later IT WILL FIND YOU. Gould, Lake Erie can kick up to a mess in a little as fifteen minutes. If you an hour away from homeport then what? It's better to get some PLANNED experience going out a little at a time but staying close to home port to get acquainted/acclimated to harder conditions, rather than sit tied to the dock all season or worse, caught having to travel a great distance in bad water without any prior experience. That's my take on it. If you want to put a derrogatory label on me by all means. Bob Dimond In article , (Gould 0738) wrote: Aww.. come on! A 20 foot boat out in Lake Erie only in nice conditions? If you overnight in it you might as well take it out in a little bit of weather 'cause you and I both know on Lake Erie you going to hit it anyway! Egging a guy out into conditions beyond the capabilities of his boat is not the mark of a serious mariner. |
"New" boat comparison - Bayliner vs Larson
Gould, Lake Erie can kick up to a mess in a little as fifteen minutes. If
you an hour away from homeport then what? It's better to get some PLANNED experience going out a little at a time but staying close to home port to get acquainted/acclimated to harder conditions, rather than sit tied to the dock all season or worse, caught having to travel a great distance in bad water without any prior experience. That's my take on it. If you want to put a derrogatory label on me by all means. Bob Dimond In article , (Gould 0738) wrote: Aww.. come on! A 20 foot boat out in Lake Erie only in nice conditions? If you overnight in it you might as well take it out in a little bit of weather 'cause you and I both know on Lake Erie you going to hit it anyway! Egging a guy out into conditions beyond the capabilities of his boat is not the mark of a serious mariner. We agree that one needs to be prepared for snotty weather, and that it can't always be avoided. We disagree that it is prudent to put out into conditions that are marginal and unstable to begin with, what if they get worse? I'm not trying to put a label on you as an individual, but I think that your weather philosophy is not as well developed as might be. IMO. Others will, can, and should disagree. |
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