On 10/9/2011 1:20 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/10/2011 11:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/8/2011 11:26 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/10/2011 8:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 6:28 PM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 8, 7:23 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 2:08 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 9:39 am, wrote:
In article96cecb26-d995-4edf-93ba-2aef57f13ec6
@m37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 7, 10:47 am, X ` wrote:
...are threatening to demonstrate at the service for Steve
Jobs.

I believe in free speech. But...I wouldn't mind seeing these
morons from
Westboro have the **** beat out of them every time they pull
this sort
of crap, and *especially* when they pull it at the funeral of
a soldier
killed in action.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

They're losers Harry. They're the "Christian" Taliban.

Tim, the trouble is, because Harry is so quick to label people
and put
them in a very narrow slot, he'll use those idiots as an
example of all
Christianity.

I noticed that several here do as well. That's why I said
they're the
taliban of Christianity. But you're right, people look at the
Westboro's and their radical lunacies, and that's how they
wish to
brand ALL Christians.

It's really kinda sad that some people wish to be so narrow
minded as
to judge all by looking at the antics of a few misaligned and
self-
rightous klutzes.

But the funny thing is that Christianity has been mocked for
around
2000 years, and it's still standing well. So... I look at it like
this. If people want to curse the good Christians, then that
really
doesn't make them any different than the Westboro's does it?

As a percentage of humanity, Christianity is on the rocks and
shrinking.

Oh no, and far from it.

I said as a percentage. Take China and Africa muslim and non
christian
growth over the last 100 years.

--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

interesting that you should mention China. That's one country where
Christianity is flourishing and growing , not to mention S. Korea.

Smoking too much religious crack? China is only 3 or 4% Christian,
predominantly Buddhist and government is atheist without religious
preference. And in fact, no all seeing eye makes China more separation
between church and state than the USA.
--


we weren't talking about Buddhism, Islam etc. We were talking about
Christianity weren't we?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...e-christianity




"Today, estimates of Christians range between 40 million and 100
million."

"During this period, house churches boomed in popularity. As the New
York Times correspondent Nicholas Kristof noted, initially popular
among the peasantry, Christianity's reach has extended towards the
cities and the wealthy and intellectual Chinese over the last decade.

The reasons for this boom are twofold. The first is that the Chinese
have found Christianity to be a stabilising belief system amid a
dramatically changing socioeconomic landscape, which had its previous
religious traditions crushed by Maoism and its values questioned after
Tiananmen Square. And, secondly, with its obvious western heritage,
the rise of Christianity may be linked to a subconscious attack on the
norms and values espoused by the PRC – rather like South Korea in the
1980s."

Granted, even 100 mil, is a small percentage considering there's well
over a billion people in China, but it's a long step of growth since
the 70's especially in a country run by a religion supervised
government

3 to 4% of 1.3 billion people is at most 52 million. And growth claims,
highly questionable.

Fastest growing religion in USA if you include atheists? Atheists. If
you exclude atheists, then it goes to Buddhism. Go figure.

Sort of follows black supremacy claims of being the first minority,
blacks are 3rd if you include Spanish decent.

Just a lot of bull**** to keep whining people happy. But then facts and
reality, no fleabaggers want to hear that. Some idiots feelings might be
hurt.

Chinese government is officially atheist. You need to read better
material. Check my stats on CIA Wold Fact Book, ship your voodoo
religious sermon sites.

You sure are turning out to be one condescending asshole... What
happened, some Christian guy steal your girl in High School or something?

Not at all. Just realize religion is about herd management and power
over the people, and not by god but by fellow man.

Kind of like your atheism...


With so many starving
people, what is so christian about the Vatican hoarding billions while
they hypocritically profess differently for the masses?

Kind of like Athiests...

Because of religion, so few have all the power, while the rest live as
slaves to serve it. Fact is, just another form of fascism. My god is
better than your god -- and no proof anyone ever met the being.

I have proof enough for me, I have seen his work..

Isn't to say I am anti-religion, I am not. The herd animal humans need
intellectual guidance through life or the whole world would become
Somalia like. Decay to the animal basics, dog eat dog.

Kind of like the direction we are heading now...

On 10/9/11 8:51 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/9/2011 1:20 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

With so many starving
people, what is so christian about the Vatican hoarding billions while
they hypocritically profess differently for the masses?

Kind of like Athiests...

D'oh...you think the "Church of Atheism" is hoarding billions?
snerk





--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 09/10/2011 6:56 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 8:51 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/9/2011 1:20 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

With so many starving
people, what is so christian about the Vatican hoarding billions while
they hypocritically profess differently for the masses?

Kind of like Athiests...

D'oh...you think the "Church of Atheism" is hoarding billions?
snerk

The organized religion response, persecute these evil heathens.


--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

In article ,
says...

On 10/9/2011 1:20 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/10/2011 11:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/8/2011 11:26 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/10/2011 8:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 6:28 PM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 8, 7:23 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 2:08 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 9:39 am, wrote:
In article96cecb26-d995-4edf-93ba-2aef57f13ec6
@m37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 7, 10:47 am, X ` wrote:
...are threatening to demonstrate at the service for Steve
Jobs.

I believe in free speech. But...I wouldn't mind seeing these
morons from
Westboro have the **** beat out of them every time they pull
this sort
of crap, and *especially* when they pull it at the funeral of
a soldier
killed in action.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

They're losers Harry. They're the "Christian" Taliban.

Tim, the trouble is, because Harry is so quick to label people
and put
them in a very narrow slot, he'll use those idiots as an
example of all
Christianity.

I noticed that several here do as well. That's why I said
they're the
taliban of Christianity. But you're right, people look at the
Westboro's and their radical lunacies, and that's how they
wish to
brand ALL Christians.

It's really kinda sad that some people wish to be so narrow
minded as
to judge all by looking at the antics of a few misaligned and
self-
rightous klutzes.

But the funny thing is that Christianity has been mocked for
around
2000 years, and it's still standing well. So... I look at it like
this. If people want to curse the good Christians, then that
really
doesn't make them any different than the Westboro's does it?

As a percentage of humanity, Christianity is on the rocks and
shrinking.

Oh no, and far from it.

I said as a percentage. Take China and Africa muslim and non
christian
growth over the last 100 years.

--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

interesting that you should mention China. That's one country where
Christianity is flourishing and growing , not to mention S. Korea.

Smoking too much religious crack? China is only 3 or 4% Christian,
predominantly Buddhist and government is atheist without religious
preference. And in fact, no all seeing eye makes China more separation
between church and state than the USA.
--


we weren't talking about Buddhism, Islam etc. We were talking about
Christianity weren't we?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...e-christianity




"Today, estimates of Christians range between 40 million and 100
million."

"During this period, house churches boomed in popularity. As the New
York Times correspondent Nicholas Kristof noted, initially popular
among the peasantry, Christianity's reach has extended towards the
cities and the wealthy and intellectual Chinese over the last decade.

The reasons for this boom are twofold. The first is that the Chinese
have found Christianity to be a stabilising belief system amid a
dramatically changing socioeconomic landscape, which had its previous
religious traditions crushed by Maoism and its values questioned after
Tiananmen Square. And, secondly, with its obvious western heritage,
the rise of Christianity may be linked to a subconscious attack on the
norms and values espoused by the PRC ? rather like South Korea in the
1980s."

Granted, even 100 mil, is a small percentage considering there's well
over a billion people in China, but it's a long step of growth since
the 70's especially in a country run by a religion supervised
government

3 to 4% of 1.3 billion people is at most 52 million. And growth claims,
highly questionable.

Fastest growing religion in USA if you include atheists? Atheists. If
you exclude atheists, then it goes to Buddhism. Go figure.

Sort of follows black supremacy claims of being the first minority,
blacks are 3rd if you include Spanish decent.

Just a lot of bull**** to keep whining people happy. But then facts and
reality, no fleabaggers want to hear that. Some idiots feelings might be
hurt.

Chinese government is officially atheist. You need to read better
material. Check my stats on CIA Wold Fact Book, ship your voodoo
religious sermon sites.

You sure are turning out to be one condescending asshole... What
happened, some Christian guy steal your girl in High School or something?

Not at all. Just realize religion is about herd management and power
over the people, and not by god but by fellow man.

Kind of like your atheism...


With so many starving
people, what is so christian about the Vatican hoarding billions while
they hypocritically profess differently for the masses?

Kind of like Athiests...

Where is this place that is akin to the Vatican where an organized group
of athiests are hoarding billions of dollars then profess differently to
the masses?

Because of religion, so few have all the power, while the rest live as
slaves to serve it. Fact is, just another form of fascism. My god is
better than your god -- and no proof anyone ever met the being.

I have proof enough for me, I have seen his work..
So that's proof that someone has met the being?

Isn't to say I am anti-religion, I am not. The herd animal humans need
intellectual guidance through life or the whole world would become
Somalia like. Decay to the animal basics, dog eat dog.

Kind of like the direction we are heading now...

How so?

On 09/10/2011 6:51 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/9/2011 1:20 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/10/2011 11:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/8/2011 11:26 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/10/2011 8:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 6:28 PM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 8, 7:23 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, wrote:
On 08/10/2011 2:08 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 9:39 am, wrote:
In article96cecb26-d995-4edf-93ba-2aef57f13ec6
@m37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 7, 10:47 am, X ` wrote:
...are threatening to demonstrate at the service for Steve
Jobs.

I believe in free speech. But...I wouldn't mind seeing these
morons from
Westboro have the **** beat out of them every time they pull
this sort
of crap, and *especially* when they pull it at the funeral of
a soldier
killed in action.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

They're losers Harry. They're the "Christian" Taliban.

Tim, the trouble is, because Harry is so quick to label people
and put
them in a very narrow slot, he'll use those idiots as an
example of all
Christianity.

I noticed that several here do as well. That's why I said
they're the
taliban of Christianity. But you're right, people look at the
Westboro's and their radical lunacies, and that's how they
wish to
brand ALL Christians.

It's really kinda sad that some people wish to be so narrow
minded as
to judge all by looking at the antics of a few misaligned and
self-
rightous klutzes.

But the funny thing is that Christianity has been mocked for
around
2000 years, and it's still standing well. So... I look at it
like
this. If people want to curse the good Christians, then that
really
doesn't make them any different than the Westboro's does it?

As a percentage of humanity, Christianity is on the rocks and
shrinking.

Oh no, and far from it.

I said as a percentage. Take China and Africa muslim and non
christian
growth over the last 100 years.

--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

interesting that you should mention China. That's one country where
Christianity is flourishing and growing , not to mention S. Korea.

Smoking too much religious crack? China is only 3 or 4% Christian,
predominantly Buddhist and government is atheist without religious
preference. And in fact, no all seeing eye makes China more
separation
between church and state than the USA.
--


we weren't talking about Buddhism, Islam etc. We were talking about
Christianity weren't we?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...e-christianity





"Today, estimates of Christians range between 40 million and 100
million."

"During this period, house churches boomed in popularity. As the New
York Times correspondent Nicholas Kristof noted, initially popular
among the peasantry, Christianity's reach has extended towards the
cities and the wealthy and intellectual Chinese over the last decade.

The reasons for this boom are twofold. The first is that the Chinese
have found Christianity to be a stabilising belief system amid a
dramatically changing socioeconomic landscape, which had its previous
religious traditions crushed by Maoism and its values questioned after
Tiananmen Square. And, secondly, with its obvious western heritage,
the rise of Christianity may be linked to a subconscious attack on the
norms and values espoused by the PRC – rather like South Korea in the
1980s."

Granted, even 100 mil, is a small percentage considering there's well
over a billion people in China, but it's a long step of growth since
the 70's especially in a country run by a religion supervised
government

3 to 4% of 1.3 billion people is at most 52 million. And growth claims,
highly questionable.

Fastest growing religion in USA if you include atheists? Atheists. If
you exclude atheists, then it goes to Buddhism. Go figure.

Sort of follows black supremacy claims of being the first minority,
blacks are 3rd if you include Spanish decent.

Just a lot of bull**** to keep whining people happy. But then facts and
reality, no fleabaggers want to hear that. Some idiots feelings
might be
hurt.

Chinese government is officially atheist. You need to read better
material. Check my stats on CIA Wold Fact Book, ship your voodoo
religious sermon sites.

You sure are turning out to be one condescending asshole... What
happened, some Christian guy steal your girl in High School or
something?

Not at all. Just realize religion is about herd management and power
over the people, and not by god but by fellow man.

Kind of like your atheism...


With so many starving
people, what is so christian about the Vatican hoarding billions while
they hypocritically profess differently for the masses?

Kind of like Athiests...

Agnostic actually, but typical of you sin for 6 (maybe) repent for one
crowd would call me a evil and a heathen because I don't believe in your
brand of religion.

But yes, I don't believe in feeding the problem. Feed one today so 7.2
more can starve tomorrow makes no sense to me. Clearly a cultural
change is need if you really want to solve the problem and make it worse.

But my intent was to show the hypocrisy of the Vatican as an example.

Because of religion, so few have all the power, while the rest live as
slaves to serve it. Fact is, just another form of fascism. My god is
better than your god -- and no proof anyone ever met the being.

I have proof enough for me, I have seen his work..

Isn't to say I am anti-religion, I am not. The herd animal humans need
intellectual guidance through life or the whole world would become
Somalia like. Decay to the animal basics, dog eat dog.

Kind of like the direction we are heading now...

Or are we already there? Civil and moral behavior is a mater of degree.
Lefty march on Wall Street for example, the masses not thinking with
rationality, but with envy and greed stoked up by unscrupulous politicians.

Fact is we are not as different from herd animals as we think we are.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

On 10/9/11 2:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Or are we already there? Civil and moral behavior is a mater of degree.
Lefty march on Wall Street for example, the masses not thinking with
rationality, but with envy and greed stoked up by unscrupulous politicians.

Oh, I think the March on Wall Street is perfectly moral and rational in
its goals of pointing out Wall Street greed and its looting of America.
The immorality is within the Wall Street and banking crowd.

I don't know what the various marches will accomplish, though.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 09/10/2011 12:43 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 2:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Or are we already there? Civil and moral behavior is a mater of degree.
Lefty march on Wall Street for example, the masses not thinking with
rationality, but with envy and greed stoked up by unscrupulous
politicians.

Oh, I think the March on Wall Street is perfectly moral and rational in
its goals of pointing out Wall Street greed and its looting of America.
The immorality is within the Wall Street and banking crowd.

I don't know what the various marches will accomplish, though.

Just a bunch of irrational fleabaggers thinking with their envy, greed
and sorry asses looking for a fee lunch.


--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

On 10/9/11 4:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/10/2011 12:43 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 2:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Or are we already there? Civil and moral behavior is a mater of degree.
Lefty march on Wall Street for example, the masses not thinking with
rationality, but with envy and greed stoked up by unscrupulous
politicians.

Oh, I think the March on Wall Street is perfectly moral and rational in
its goals of pointing out Wall Street greed and its looting of America.
The immorality is within the Wall Street and banking crowd.

I don't know what the various marches will accomplish, though.

Just a bunch of irrational fleabaggers thinking with their envy, greed
and sorry asses looking for a fee lunch.



They're perfectly rational and they have identified the enemy.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/9/2011 5:00 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 4:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/10/2011 12:43 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 2:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Or are we already there? Civil and moral behavior is a mater of degree.
Lefty march on Wall Street for example, the masses not thinking with
rationality, but with envy and greed stoked up by unscrupulous
politicians.

Oh, I think the March on Wall Street is perfectly moral and rational in
its goals of pointing out Wall Street greed and its looting of America.
The immorality is within the Wall Street and banking crowd.

I don't know what the various marches will accomplish, though.

Just a bunch of irrational fleabaggers thinking with their envy, greed
and sorry asses looking for a fee lunch.



They're perfectly rational and they have identified the enemy.


Have you listened to any of the coverage? You are lying again, these
fleabaggers are all over the place. Half of them answered "I don't
really know" when asked what they were protesting. That is until Obama
sent in the SEIU to organize them last week...

In article ,
says...

On 10/9/2011 5:00 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 4:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/10/2011 12:43 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 2:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Or are we already there? Civil and moral behavior is a mater of degree.
Lefty march on Wall Street for example, the masses not thinking with
rationality, but with envy and greed stoked up by unscrupulous
politicians.

Oh, I think the March on Wall Street is perfectly moral and rational in
its goals of pointing out Wall Street greed and its looting of America.
The immorality is within the Wall Street and banking crowd.

I don't know what the various marches will accomplish, though.

Just a bunch of irrational fleabaggers thinking with their envy, greed
and sorry asses looking for a fee lunch.



They're perfectly rational and they have identified the enemy.


Have you listened to any of the coverage? You are lying again, these
fleabaggers are all over the place. Half of them answered "I don't
really know" when asked what they were protesting. That is until Obama
sent in the SEIU to organize them last week...

Funny, teabaggers protesting is just great, left wingers protesting is
terrible......