On 10/8/11 4:08 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:39 am, wrote:
In article96cecb26-d995-4edf-93ba-2aef57f13ec6
@m37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...



On Oct 7, 10:47 am, X ` wrote:
...are threatening to demonstrate at the service for Steve Jobs.

I believe in free speech. But...I wouldn't mind seeing these morons from
Westboro have the **** beat out of them every time they pull this sort
of crap, and *especially* when they pull it at the funeral of a soldier
killed in action.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

They're losers Harry. They're the "Christian" Taliban.

Tim, the trouble is, because Harry is so quick to label people and put
them in a very narrow slot, he'll use those idiots as an example of all
Christianity.

I noticed that several here do as well. That's why I said they're the
taliban of Christianity. But you're right, people look at the
Westboro's and their radical lunacies, and that's how they wish to
brand ALL Christians.

It's really kinda sad that some people wish to be so narrow minded as
to judge all by looking at the antics of a few misaligned and self-
rightous klutzes.

But the funny thing is that Christianity has been mocked for around
2000 years, and it's still standing well. So... I look at it like
this. If people want to curse the good Christians, then that really
doesn't make them any different than the Westboro's does it?


iLoogy tries hard, but he isn't bright. I don't read his posts here.

I don't the WBC is representative of anything but itself, and I
certainly don't think it is representative of the decent side of
Christianity. But I don't believe that moron minister in Texas, Robert
Jeffress, who does represent a large body of those who describe
themselves as Christians, is on the right track, either.

Pastor denies remarks against Romney were 'bigotry'

(CNN) – A megachurch pastor and supporter of Texas Gov. Rick Perry stood
firm Saturday on his stance that Christians should vote against
presidential hopeful Mitt Romney because of his Mormon faith.

"Those of us that are evangelicals have every right to prefer and select
a competent Christian over a competent non-Christian," Robert Jeffress,
senior pastor of First Baptist Church Dallas, told CNN on Saturday.

Jeffress stirred controversy Friday when he told reporters at the Values
Voter Summit in Washington that he believes Mormonism is a "cult."

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It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of behavior
"Christian"?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On Oct 8, 4:23*pm, X ` Man wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of behavior
"Christian"?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............

On 10/8/11 7:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, X ` wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of behavior
"Christian"?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............

That's a problem, isn't it? So many of many religions claim to consist
of true believers and followers, but what they stand for is hate.

My feeling is that if you are part of the "Values Voters" conference
sponsored by the Family Research Council, you parted ways with
Christianity a long time ago. Those folks hide under the banner of their
religion to spread hate.

I don't see how it is possible to be a social conservative and a
follower of the teachings of Jesus.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/8/2011 8:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/8/11 7:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, X ` wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of behavior
"Christian"?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............

That's a problem, isn't it? So many of many religions claim to consist
of true believers and followers, but what they stand for is hate.

My feeling is that if you are part of the "Values Voters" conference
sponsored by the Family Research Council, you parted ways with
Christianity a long time ago. Those folks hide under the banner of their
religion to spread hate.

I don't see how it is possible to be a social conservative and a
follower of the teachings of Jesus.


Well Harry, why don't you tell us all about the teachings of Jesus..
Then tell us about "Jesus on a stick at *Christmas* again, and while
your are googling, go ahead and tell us why Tim *can't* answer your
questions. go ahead, I will wait.

On 10/9/11 1:20 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/8/2011 8:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/8/11 7:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, X ` wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of
behavior
"Christian"?

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............

That's a problem, isn't it? So many of many religions claim to consist
of true believers and followers, but what they stand for is hate.

My feeling is that if you are part of the "Values Voters" conference
sponsored by the Family Research Council, you parted ways with
Christianity a long time ago. Those folks hide under the banner of their
religion to spread hate.

I don't see how it is possible to be a social conservative and a
follower of the teachings of Jesus.


Well Harry, why don't you tell us all about the teachings of Jesus..
Then tell us about "Jesus on a stick at *Christmas* again, and while
your are googling, go ahead and tell us why Tim *can't* answer your
questions. go ahead, I will wait.



People of intelligence can, with good manners, debate whether
churches/mosques/synagogues are doing good or doing evil. The Christian
bible has been used to do good and to do evil. There are individual
Christians/Moslems/Jews/whatevers who do good and there members of those
religions who do evil, and all of this is done in the name of
their religion.

If you are the sort of ultra conservative who attends Family Research
Council events such as the Values Voters conference and you sit and
listen to a bigoted preacher put down a reasonably decent guy because
his religion is different from yours and you don't protest, then you are
as bigoted as the speaker. I wouldn't vote for Mitt Romney, but I
wouldn't insult him in a public forum on the basis of his personal
religious beliefs. Romney doesn't make an issue of his religion; those
"politicized good Christians" do.

At a more personal level, *you* are the sort of hate-filled bigot who
helps give Christianity a black eye.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/9/2011 8:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 1:20 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/8/2011 8:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/8/11 7:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, X ` wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of
behavior
"Christian"?

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............

That's a problem, isn't it? So many of many religions claim to consist
of true believers and followers, but what they stand for is hate.

My feeling is that if you are part of the "Values Voters" conference
sponsored by the Family Research Council, you parted ways with
Christianity a long time ago. Those folks hide under the banner of their
religion to spread hate.

I don't see how it is possible to be a social conservative and a
follower of the teachings of Jesus.


Well Harry, why don't you tell us all about the teachings of Jesus..
Then tell us about "Jesus on a stick at *Christmas* again, and while
your are googling, go ahead and tell us why Tim *can't* answer your
questions. go ahead, I will wait.



People of intelligence can, with good manners, debate whether
churches/mosques/synagogues are doing good or doing evil.

Obviously you didn't read your own question, I didn't read the rest of
your spew.... So Harry, tell us "why Tim *can't" answer your question? [
Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?]

When you can answer that, then we will talk... Until then, you are just
trolling and calling names... Really, the answer to my question is easy,
for anybody who understands ever the most subtle ideas of Christianity...

On 10/9/11 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/9/2011 8:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/9/11 1:20 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/8/2011 8:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/8/11 7:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, X ` wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of
behavior
"Christian"?

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............

That's a problem, isn't it? So many of many religions claim to consist
of true believers and followers, but what they stand for is hate.

My feeling is that if you are part of the "Values Voters" conference
sponsored by the Family Research Council, you parted ways with
Christianity a long time ago. Those folks hide under the banner of
their
religion to spread hate.

I don't see how it is possible to be a social conservative and a
follower of the teachings of Jesus.


Well Harry, why don't you tell us all about the teachings of Jesus..
Then tell us about "Jesus on a stick at *Christmas* again, and while
your are googling, go ahead and tell us why Tim *can't* answer your
questions. go ahead, I will wait.



People of intelligence can, with good manners, debate whether
churches/mosques/synagogues are doing good or doing evil.

Obviously you didn't read your own question, I didn't read the rest of
your spew.... So Harry, tell us "why Tim *can't" answer your question? [
Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?]

When you can answer that, then we will talk... Until then, you are just
trolling and calling names... Really, the answer to my question is easy,
for anybody who understands ever the most subtle ideas of Christianity...


Oh, I am sure Tim can, if he wishes, respond to a question as to whether
a particular bit of ugly behavior in the name of Christianity is
Christian. Getting up in front of a group of conservative Christians, as
Jeffress did, and casting aspersions on a candidate for the GOP
presidential nomination because he is a "Mormon," and therefore part of
a cult, is not very Christian. One can only imagine what Jeffress would
have said if Romney were Jewish.

Oh, wait...Jesus was Jewish. Well, that presents a problem. :)

For the record, I don't believe you have any knowledge, subtle or
otherwise, of anything that requires intellectual exercise.



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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/8/2011 8:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:

I don't see how it is possible to be a social conservative and a
follower of the teachings of Jesus.

That's probably because you don't see yourself to be a sinner.

On 10/8/2011 7:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:23 pm, X ` wrote:


It isn't reasonable to "mock Christianity," as you put it, because of
the WBC, but what about the actions of Jeffress, his flock, and those
Baptist Christians who are as bigoted as he is? Is that sort of behavior
"Christian"?

You are about the dumbest person I have ever met.. Tim can't answer your
question, because he *is* a Christian, however I doubt you will ever
have the capacity to understand that...


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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

What about 'em?

"Is that sort of behavior "Christian"?"

Well, you tell me....

Just because they say they are............