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On 10/1/11 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:34:36 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/30/2011 9:37 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the
absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in
Guantanamo.
No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

How do you know he was guilty? Was he tried and convicted, you silly
crazy *******?

-HB

He doesn't know anything, he is just arguing, like he did when he called
himself Plum, or Paul, or Areal boater, X-man...

Still trying to figure that out?

When he gets confused by a poster, he assumes it is me.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:47:25 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:12:07 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

On Oct 1, 11:09*am, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:55:57 -0400, JustWait









wrote:
On 10/1/2011 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:26:18 -0400, John
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:14:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in Guantanamo.

No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

Guilty based on what?

And, your boy promised to fix Guantanamo. Remember?

More bull**** from Obama, who can do no wrong.

I really don't have a problem with killing these guys but I also
didn't have a huge problem with Gitmo.
I do wonder why killing everyone in that convoy is any different than
arresting and detaining everyone who was in a suspected terrorist
hideout.
These people keep ignoring the fact that we also killed a couple
drivers and whomever else was in the cars.

Yeah, that's what happens when you declare war on the US I guess... As
to the drivers, etc.. They knew damn well they were at war, and decided
to stay in the fight, they lost, get over it...

I just want them to stop whining about the Gitmo people if that is how
we feel..

I have no problem with Gitmo...

The problem with Gitmo is that it is American soil. We either have
laws on American soil or we don't. If we do, we compromised all of
those cases when they finally come to trial.

I personally think it is a problem that it was used as a dumping
ground for a bunch of people that were in the wrong place at the wrong
time, too.

I have no problem with holding perps and defending America, but using
the same methods as the perps makes us no better than them.

Are you implying our laws shouldn't apply on soil that isn't 'American'?

How silly.

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On 10/1/11 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:34:36 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/30/2011 9:37 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the
absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in
Guantanamo.
No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

How do you know he was guilty? Was he tried and convicted, you silly
crazy *******?

-HB

He doesn't know anything, he is just arguing, like he did when he called
himself Plum, or Paul, or Areal boater, X-man...

Still trying to figure that out?

When he gets confused by a poster, he assumes it is me.

Don't give yourself credit, coward.

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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:47:25 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:26:18 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:14:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in Guantanamo.

No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

Guilty based on what?

Uh, his online lectures that have been traced to numerous plots
against western targets?


And, your boy promised to fix Guantanamo. Remember?

More bull**** from Obama, who can do no wrong.

Yes, he did, but I'm sure he found a lot bigger mess left to him by
Bush than he could unravel. He shouldn't have made this a "promise"
until he evaluated the situation. That's the difference between pre
election rhetoric and being briefed on the "secrets" of the matter.

Bush again?

Ah, yes. It's Bush's fault.

Do you not realize how stupid you sound?

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On 10/1/2011 11:12 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 1, 11:09 am, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:55:57 -0400, JustWait









wrote:
On 10/1/2011 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:26:18 -0400, John
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:14:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in Guantanamo.

No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

Guilty based on what?

And, your boy promised to fix Guantanamo. Remember?

More bull**** from Obama, who can do no wrong.

I really don't have a problem with killing these guys but I also
didn't have a huge problem with Gitmo.
I do wonder why killing everyone in that convoy is any different than
arresting and detaining everyone who was in a suspected terrorist
hideout.
These people keep ignoring the fact that we also killed a couple
drivers and whomever else was in the cars.

Yeah, that's what happens when you declare war on the US I guess... As
to the drivers, etc.. They knew damn well they were at war, and decided
to stay in the fight, they lost, get over it...

I just want them to stop whining about the Gitmo people if that is how
we feel..

I have no problem with Gitmo...

Nor do I. Cept it was much nicer before the towel heads took up residence.

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On 10/1/11 4:07 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:25:34 -0400, X `
wrote:

Yeah, that's what happens when you declare war on the US I guess... As
to the drivers, etc.. They knew damn well they were at war, and decided
to stay in the fight, they lost, get over it...

I just want them to stop whining about the Gitmo people if that is how
we feel..

Even the ones scooped up for no reason other than being in the wrong
place at the wrong time and guilty of nothing?

You mean like the people who get killed by drones because they are at
the wrong place at the wrong time or just as collateral damage to the
guy they are trying to kill?

To expand the concept, think of drones as execution and gitmo as life
in prison. I thought you were against the death penalty.

As long as the view is consistent, I don't have a huge problem with it
either way but I do think we are slipping back into that "untouchable
death from the skies" mentality that got us in trouble in the 90s.


You seem to think I favor the actions you describe. I'm not one of the
right-wing ciphers in here.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

Due Process???
 

On 10/1/2011 10:55 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:50:30 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:26:18 -0400, John
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:14:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in Guantanamo.

No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

Guilty based on what?

And, your boy promised to fix Guantanamo. Remember?

More bull**** from Obama, who can do no wrong.

I really don't have a problem with killing these guys but I also
didn't have a huge problem with Gitmo.
I do wonder why killing everyone in that convoy is any different than
arresting and detaining everyone who was in a suspected terrorist
hideout.
These people keep ignoring the fact that we also killed a couple
drivers and whomever else was in the cars.

Yup.
Collateral damage . I'm sure O/bama didn't lose any sleep over it.

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JustWait wrote:
On 9/30/2011 9:37 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows the
absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in
Guantanamo.
No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

How do you know he was guilty? Was he tried and convicted, you silly
crazy *******?

-HB

He doesn't know anything, he is just arguing, like he did when he
called himself Plum, or Paul, or Areal boater, X-man...

What's with the X-Man thing? Is/was he a trans woman?

-HB

Due Process???
 

X ` Man wrote:
On 10/1/11 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:55:57 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 10/1/2011 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:26:18 -0400, John
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:14:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:41:01 -0400, John
wrote:

Anwar al-Awlaki's killing was absolutely justified, but it shows
the absolute hypocrisy of the Obama
administration and liberals who cried about the terrorists in
Guantanamo.

No, it doesn't.

al Awlaki was guilty. Guantanamo held innocent people as young as 13
years old, which were detained for a ridiculous amount of time and
then released because they were guilty of nothing.

Even Bush couldn't bring to trial a bunch of people that were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. From the guilty, tons of bogus
information was obtained. Few of them really guilty got what was
coming to them. Guantanamo was a huge mess, legally and politically.

Guilty based on what?

And, your boy promised to fix Guantanamo. Remember?

More bull**** from Obama, who can do no wrong.

I really don't have a problem with killing these guys but I also
didn't have a huge problem with Gitmo.
I do wonder why killing everyone in that convoy is any different than
arresting and detaining everyone who was in a suspected terrorist
hideout.
These people keep ignoring the fact that we also killed a couple
drivers and whomever else was in the cars.

Yeah, that's what happens when you declare war on the US I guess... As
to the drivers, etc.. They knew damn well they were at war, and decided
to stay in the fight, they lost, get over it...

I just want them to stop whining about the Gitmo people if that is how
we feel..

Even the ones scooped up for no reason other than being in the wrong
place at the wrong time and guilty of nothing?


What is your president doing about it? He promised to shut it down in
his inaugural speech.

-HB

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X ` Man wrote:
On 10/1/11 4:07 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:25:34 -0400, X `
wrote:

Yeah, that's what happens when you declare war on the US I
guess... As
to the drivers, etc.. They knew damn well they were at war, and
decided
to stay in the fight, they lost, get over it...

I just want them to stop whining about the Gitmo people if that is how
we feel..

Even the ones scooped up for no reason other than being in the wrong
place at the wrong time and guilty of nothing?

You mean like the people who get killed by drones because they are at
the wrong place at the wrong time or just as collateral damage to the
guy they are trying to kill?

To expand the concept, think of drones as execution and gitmo as life
in prison. I thought you were against the death penalty.

As long as the view is consistent, I don't have a huge problem with it
either way but I do think we are slipping back into that "untouchable
death from the skies" mentality that got us in trouble in the 90s.


You seem to think I favor the actions you describe. I'm not one of the
right-wing ciphers in here.


I don't give a **** what you think. Do you think anyone else does, Harry?

-HB