On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:58:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On 9/13/11 12:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:42:01 -0400, X `
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On 9/12/11 11:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:22:35 -0400, X `
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On 9/12/11 9:14 PM, wrote:

Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.


The "fun people" aren't smokers. Smokers smell bad, they pollute the air
with their stench, their smoke ruins the taste of food, the smoke sticks
to your hair and your clothes *and* it is not healthy.

Then why is it so important that you go into a bar that allows
smoking?

Nobody said allowing a bar owner to allow smoking meant ANY of them
have to. Let the bar owner decide who he wants to cater to.


1. It's not important that I go into a bar that allows smoking. I don't
go into bars, usually. Many of the restaurants we frequent, however,
have bars as part of their facilities.

2. I'm grateful that in Maryland and DC, restaurants and other public
facilities and office buildings do not allow smoking. Because of that I
don't have to smell the stench of tobacco smoke. Smokers, especially
cigarette smokers, smell bad and their residue smells bad.

3. The regs are a bit less stringent in Virginia, but I believe most
restaurants do not allow smoking. About the only Virginia restaurants we
frequent are in Virginia Beach, and I haven't noticed the stench of
tobacco smoke in the restaurants down there for some time.

4. I'd like to see the local sheriffs enforce the anti-litter laws
against smokers who toss their cigarette/cigar butts out the windows of
their cars, or empty their ashtrays on the street when they are stopped
for traffic lights. I see that sort of irresponsible behavior
frequently. A few hundred $500 fines assessed every week might help
force decent behavior on smokers. I know the sheriffs stop and ticket
motorists who toss fast food wrappers and cups out the window.

5. I'd like to see the growing, manufacturing and sale of tobacco
products made illegal in this country and made illegal for U.S.
companies selling tobacco products abroad. Absent that, I'd like to see
another $5 a pack tax imposed against cigarettes and a suitable increase
in the tax assessed against cigars, "dip," and similar tobacco products.

Have a nice, smoke-free day!


Harry, I appreciate your honesty. You just do not like the smell. You
are not making outlandish "health" claims that you will die if you
smell a little smoke.



I only worked at one place where the number of smokers was significant,
but that was at the Kansas City Star, and the city room was enormous and
well ventilated. I do appreciate though that constant exposure to second
hand smoke is a health problem.

You can appreciate whatever you want, however, there is no data to prove
that second hand smoke causes cancer. If it did my sisters and I would
have died from second hand smoke before we reached adulthood.

As you point out (and as I did), for me, the problem is...the stench.

Taste is a personal choice.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...et/Tobacco/ETS
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/secondhandsmoke.html
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/s...oke.html#cat22

Of course, these are GOVERNMENT institutions, so according to the
teabaggers, wrong or suspect and part of an Obama plot to take over
their brains (as if they had any to be worried about).