On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:37:53 -0400, iBoatMore wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:52:08 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2011 12:42 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:53:10 -0400,
wrote:

On 9/1/2011 10:58 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:07:52 -0400, wrote:

In article8f6daa0d-8027-49b4-876a-cc12ba07e295
@q2g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 31, 7:55 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.

All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Are you planning on imprisoning 20M people?

Nope, don't need to. Start putting them in and most likely after a
couple hundred thousand, the rest might just decide it's not worth
sticking around...

Utter nonsense. We already have that many in prison. Hasn't helped. Even if
it did work, we have room for a couple hundred thousand more?

Utter nonsense... unless you are suggesting all of the prison inmates
are there for being illegal, and or hiring illegals? No, of course not,
it's a apples and oranges argument. Start putting them in prison just
for being illegal or hiring illegals, target those two groups, and it
will dry up too... just faster than your amnesty based "just do the
employers" theory.

It doesn't keep the criminals out, now does it? It doesn't keep the drunks
out, either.

Though putting
a *couple* thousand employers in jail, even for a weekend, and see how fast
the market dries up.

I notice that you didn't have any comments about the real answer to the
problem.

The "real" answer to the problem is one in which you had no comments
about, arrest them, deport them, secure the border.

It would be impossible to deport 20M people. Just dry up the employment and
they'll blow back whence they came. Simple. Cheap. Not going to happen.

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:33:05 -0400, iBoatMore wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:07:52 -0400, iBoatMore wrote:

In article 8f6daa0d-8027-49b4-876a-cc12ba07e295
, says...

On Aug 31, 7:55*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"LilAbner"
wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.

All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Are you planning on imprisoning 20M people?

No. They then could be deported.

If you want to deport them, why "prosecute" them. Either is far too
expensive. A taste of Bubba in the bottom bunk will go a long way with
employers, though.

On 9/1/2011 1:33 PM, iBoatMore wrote:
In ,
zzzzzzzzzz says...

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:07:52 -0400, wrote:

In article8f6daa0d-8027-49b4-876a-cc12ba07e295
@q2g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 31, 7:55 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.

All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Are you planning on imprisoning 20M people?

No. They then could be deported.

By who? Transported how? We don't have enough people with badges, bus
drivers with buses, and gavel swinging judges, to even make a dent. More
would walk across the border faster than they could be shipped out.

There is no need for a race war- the Mexicans have been in SW US since
before it was part of US. Many families are more than legal, and enough
are running for and winning office, that they will get their power and
any desired changes via the ballot box.

People defining themselves primarily via ethnic group, including groups
that happen to be on both sides of a later-occuring border, happens all
over the world. That is one big reason Turkey doesn't want Kurdistan to
make official their defacto status as a separate country- they are
terrified their own ethnic Kurds will want to join their kin in
nationhood. Old USSR had numerous similar cases, as did the folks that
were in North America before the white folk got there.

--
aem sends...

On Aug 31, 6:12*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:57:25 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:





On 31/08/2011 2:52 PM, JimT wrote:
On 8/31/2011 3:41 PM, harry wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:55 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.
All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

The poor job market seems to be relieving the problem considerably. Many
are going back voluntarily because they can't find work. Some come over
here and find out the streets are not paved with gold and go home to
their families.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...immigration-do....

If things stay the way they are Canada and Mexico might be the ones with
the problem.

When winter comes, 70% of the Mexicans leave Alberta. *A little -40F
cold snap and Mexico doesn't look so bad if you know the ropes.

When winter comes, you **** on yourself, because you can't afford the
heating bill without a gov't handout.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

LMAO!!!!!!

On Sep 1, 11:53*am, JustWait wrote:
On 9/1/2011 10:58 AM, wrote:





On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:07:52 -0400, *wrote:

In article8f6daa0d-8027-49b4-876a-cc12ba07e295
@q2g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 31, 7:55 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
*wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.


wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.

All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Are you planning on imprisoning 20M people?

Nope, don't need to. Start putting them in and most likely after a
couple hundred thousand, the rest might just decide it's not worth
sticking around...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And your tax dollars pay to keep them in Prison....not that great of
an idea.......

"iBoatMore" wrote in message
...
Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Are you planning on imprisoning 20M people?

No. They then could be deported.

So they could come right back?

"iBoatMore" wrote in message
...
In article 8f6daa0d-8027-49b4-876a-cc12ba07e295
@q2g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 31, 7:55 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"LilAbner"
wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.

All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Why not prosecute both the illegals and the employers who hire them?

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:44:46 -0500, "BUZZKILL" wrote:



"iBoatMore" wrote in message
...
In article 8f6daa0d-8027-49b4-876a-cc12ba07e295
@q2g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 31, 7:55 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If our elected reps would stop handing out taxpayer dollars,
that would be a big help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"LilAbner"
wrote in ...

No racism involved but the problem with Mexican Illegal
Aliens is very bad.
Most are here to just live off or our welfare and whatever
jobs they can
get.

All it would take would be to prosecute employers of illegal
immigrants.
As it doesn't happen, clearly your government actually wants them to
be there.

Why not prosecute the "ILLEGAL" immigrants?

Why not prosecute both the illegals and the employers who hire them?

Because prosecuting illegals would be an impossible task.

On 2011-09-02, BUZZKILL wrote:

Why not prosecute both the illegals and the employers who hire them?

You've nailed the heart of it, the employers.

Rich ppl need dirt cheap labor to remain rich. Some things can't be
offshored. You think they're gonna pay $20-25 hr for white native
labor, to build a house (trades), when IAs will work for less than the
prevailing 1975 wage? You think rich ppl who dump tons of money into
political election coffers are gonna vote to eliminate this cheap
source of labor!?

Silly you.

nb

On 9/1/2011 11:47 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-09-02, wrote:

Why not prosecute both the illegals and the employers who hire them?

You've nailed the heart of it, the employers.

Rich ppl need dirt cheap labor to remain rich. Some things can't be
offshored. You think they're gonna pay $20-25 hr for white native
labor, to build a house (trades), when IAs will work for less than the
prevailing 1975 wage? You think rich ppl who dump tons of money into
political election coffers are gonna vote to eliminate this cheap
source of labor!?

Silly you.

nb
If they knew how the Mexican built houses they wouldn't buy them.
apparently they don't know what a square and ruler are. These firms have
them nail pieces of wood together and then whn it is up they bring in
one of two guys to go back and square up openings enough for doors and
windows to fit. There may be more than one nail in a two by four.
A Relative lives in a golf course community. their house is about 6
years old. Theirs and everybody else's brick facades and wall corners
and foundations are cracking, seperating etc. near half a million
dollars for shiny new mcmansions that are falling apart. The former
southern standard building codes were at least good enough that the
house had aa chance of surviving until the mortgage was paid.