On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:38:24 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:46:40 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 02:01:09 -0400, wrote:


I believe it was GWB who decided to grant China most favored trade
status, which removed the annual review by Congress. Yet another of
his dubious policy decisions.

I am surprised you didn't Google this before you spoke but if you tee
it up I will hit it.

William Jefferson Clinton
http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N27/china.27w.html

Bummer that you left out the key phrase, "Echoing the case made by
George Bush when he was president, Clinton said he was convinced the
Chinese would take more steps to improve human rights if the issue
were separated from the threat of trade sanctions."

Feel free to "hit" that one. So, I say again, GWB decided to grant
China that status... right around Tiananmen Square time I believe.

You can say what you want but the fact is Clinton gave China MFN and I
remember the stink when he did it. GHWB said he was not willing to do
it until he saw real human rights reform out of China. Little did we
understand, it was the US economy that was at stake.

GWB was still in Texas, Running against Ann Richards.

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...-Nation+Status

Try again.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:11:06 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:20 -0700, wrote:

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

I agree that Reagan caved on China MFN after Carter granted it and
Bush 41,42, 43 and 44 also followed in his footsteps. It was only Bush
42 that railed against it in his campaign tho.

Politicians say lots of things, including "read my lips, no new
taxes." But, it's mostly just talk.

On Aug 14, 2:00*am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:11:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:20 -0700, wrote:

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

I agree that Reagan caved on China MFN after Carter granted it and
Bush 41,42, 43 and 44 also followed in his footsteps. It was only Bush
42 that railed against it in his campaign tho.

Politicians say lots of things, including "read my lips, no new
taxes." But, it's mostly just talk.

Yes, it's mostly talk. Like Obama's promises.

On 14/08/2011 10:58 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:00 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:11:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:20 -0700, wrote:

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

I agree that Reagan caved on China MFN after Carter granted it and
Bush 41,42, 43 and 44 also followed in his footsteps. It was only Bush
42 that railed against it in his campaign tho.

Politicians say lots of things, including "read my lips, no new
taxes." But, it's mostly just talk.

Yes, it's mostly talk. Like Obama's promises.

Obama's opposition is going to have a field day with Obama's broken
promises.
--
Flea party (left) fear, begets fleaparty smear.

On 8/14/11 4:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/08/2011 10:58 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:00 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:11:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:20 -0700, wrote:

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

I agree that Reagan caved on China MFN after Carter granted it and
Bush 41,42, 43 and 44 also followed in his footsteps. It was only Bush
42 that railed against it in his campaign tho.

Politicians say lots of things, including "read my lips, no new
taxes." But, it's mostly just talk.

Yes, it's mostly talk. Like Obama's promises.

Obama's opposition is going to have a field day with Obama's broken
promises.


The morons who are lining up to run against him? They have more
skeletons in their closets than a Halloween novelties store.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:51:25 -0400, X ~ Man
wrote:

On 8/14/11 4:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/08/2011 10:58 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:00 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:11:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:20 -0700, wrote:

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

I agree that Reagan caved on China MFN after Carter granted it and
Bush 41,42, 43 and 44 also followed in his footsteps. It was only Bush
42 that railed against it in his campaign tho.

Politicians say lots of things, including "read my lips, no new
taxes." But, it's mostly just talk.

Yes, it's mostly talk. Like Obama's promises.

Obama's opposition is going to have a field day with Obama's broken
promises.


The morons who are lining up to run against him? They have more
skeletons in their closets than a Halloween novelties store.

I thought the Newsweek cover picture was perfect.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:51:25 -0400, X ~ Man
wrote:

On 8/14/11 4:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/08/2011 10:58 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:00 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:11:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:20 -0700, wrote:

So, you're denying that Bush I did it before him, and Reagan before
that? It might have started in 1979, but it was renewed by both of
those presidents prior to Clinton.

I agree that Reagan caved on China MFN after Carter granted it and
Bush 41,42, 43 and 44 also followed in his footsteps. It was only Bush
42 that railed against it in his campaign tho.

Politicians say lots of things, including "read my lips, no new
taxes." But, it's mostly just talk.

Yes, it's mostly talk. Like Obama's promises.

Obama's opposition is going to have a field day with Obama's broken
promises.


The morons who are lining up to run against him? They have more
skeletons in their closets than a Halloween novelties store.

I thought the Newsweek cover picture was perfect.