On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 02:01:09 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:19:13 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:00:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:16:59 -0700, wrote:



Firstly, it's a treaty signed by which Republican president?

The original UPU treaty? Millard Fillmore.
There was a framework in place before the Civil War.

You quoted 1991. Which president was that?

GHWB, what's your point?

So that the morons here can't blame Clinton or Obama for it.


Secondly,
we're not "paying" the Chinese to ship anything. We're honoring the
treating by carrying for free.

This was actually addressing a question of unfair trade practices. If
China is letting their manufacturers ship to the US virtually free and
we charge a much higher rate going to China that is not fair.

I agree. They also inflate their currency by something like 30%.


Thirdly, do you really believe that the
differential in cost is what is causing the USPS to have financial
problems? The USPS is perhaps the most efficient like service in the
world. They're not perfect, certainly, but they do a damn good job.

I like the USPS, they are better here than UPS and FedX
I do think they are taking a screwing with this "free" mail they have
to deliver.

I agree. I don't think the fix is a tariff or something like that,
however.

No it is something called Terminal Dues that is in the treaty when
most of the trade is one way.
We just don't do it with China

I believe it was GWB who decided to grant China most favored trade
status, which removed the annual review by Congress. Yet another of
his dubious policy decisions.

I am surprised you didn't Google this before you spoke but if you tee
it up I will hit it.

William Jefferson Clinton
http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N27/china.27w.html

Bummer that you left out the key phrase, "Echoing the case made by
George Bush when he was president, Clinton said he was convinced the
Chinese would take more steps to improve human rights if the issue
were separated from the threat of trade sanctions."

Feel free to "hit" that one. So, I say again, GWB decided to grant
China that status... right around Tiananmen Square time I believe.