On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:59:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/08/2011 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:35:14 -0600,
wrote:

On 10/08/2011 7:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.

Funny, I don't blame them. A iPad made in China and sold in China is
supposed to pay DC income tax?

Maybe China should impose a 5% currency loss taxes on US....

Hear yourself think? Look GE, putting $2B into China, moving its medial
where the profits are. Makes sense.

You backwards fleabeggars need to know the universe does not rotate
around USA. Who knows, maybe Apple will pick up sticks and move to
China. All USA has to offer is just more debt and debt-taxation.

Which is really why jobs suck, not a good environment.

Apple already does virtually all of it's manufacturing and assembly in
China and they do most of the markup there so they do not look that
profitable when they are sold here. The answer would be to tax these
products coming into the country at the same rate China taxes our
products going into their country.

Yep. And Americans pay the taxes. In a way you just made a case not to
tax companies but to tax consumption. The same argument many a VAT or
sales taxes types profess.

No reason for an Apple product made in China sold in China should pay US
taxes.

And, dummy, they aren't and shouldn't have to. However, if they want
to sell in this country and they're based in this country, they should
be paying their fair share in this country.

We give China unreasonable breaks and then wonder why they are winning
the trade war.

Not entirely accurate. US culture is now lazy, lethargic, mentally lazy
entitlement types and falling behind. People don't want work, they want
welfare.

Actually, very accurate, but you're an idiot.

Mind you there are those working hard and cleaning up. Operative word,
work.

FACT: I bought a disk enclosure on Ebay that ended up coming from
China. Total cost including shipping was $2.30 and came air mail USPS.
I just mailed a pair of sunglasses to my daughter 150 miles away in
West Palm, it cost $1.79 USPS. Both boxes weighted about the same
(3.5-4 oz rate). Assuming the part was 30 cents, how can you ship
something half way around the world for virtually the same price as
it costs to ship across a skinny state?

US costs and wages are too high. Outside of US, everything is cheaper,
capital costs, wages, taxes, utilities, materials....

Taxation for example is a multiplier of over valuation. $200/hr to
clean teeth, government gets 1/2, doubles the cost of life.
Necessitating inflated wages.

You continue to astonish us with your stupidity.

I sent a camera to China last year and the price was about the same as
sending it to Australia (close to $80). If I got the same box from
China it would be cheaper than sending it to Miami.
Why is that?

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says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:33:28 -0400, iBoat_Often wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:25 -0400, iBoat_Often wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:55:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 8/10/2011 9:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.
Abusive tax rate? You haven't been keeping up have you. Over fifteen
hundred Corporations paid no tax. If a corporation is paying the 35%
they better get a new tax accountant. When they do pay taxes, everything
including the kitchen sink is deducted before taxes.
Individuals usually pay a higher rate.
This spiel is getting old. Surprised many still swallow it.
If they make their money here, on Americans, they should pay their taxes
here to support the Republic. If they paid their share everyone else
could pay less, in theory.

If I have $100 billion in China and I pay 15% tax in China I have $85
billion. Then when I repatriate that money I pay 35% on my $100 billion
leaving me with $50 billion. Why would I ever want to lose half of my
profits just to bring the money to the USA?


If they want to sell products in this country, they should have to pay
their fair share of taxes like everyone else.

Should we in turn pay taxes to all of the countries that we export to?

Never said "export to." They have a going concern and are
headquartered here. They should pay taxes here.

Um, do you not think that in order to sell products in this country that
a foreign entity would have to export those products here???

I do, however, Apple is not a "foreign entity" last I checked. I
believe they're headquarters is in Cupertino, unless they've made
Delaware their official address.

whooooosh.......

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:59:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/08/2011 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:35:14 -0600,
wrote:

On 10/08/2011 7:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.

Funny, I don't blame them. A iPad made in China and sold in China is
supposed to pay DC income tax?

Maybe China should impose a 5% currency loss taxes on US....

Hear yourself think? Look GE, putting $2B into China, moving its medial
where the profits are. Makes sense.

You backwards fleabeggars need to know the universe does not rotate
around USA. Who knows, maybe Apple will pick up sticks and move to
China. All USA has to offer is just more debt and debt-taxation.

Which is really why jobs suck, not a good environment.

Apple already does virtually all of it's manufacturing and assembly in
China and they do most of the markup there so they do not look that
profitable when they are sold here. The answer would be to tax these
products coming into the country at the same rate China taxes our
products going into their country.

Yep. And Americans pay the taxes. In a way you just made a case not to
tax companies but to tax consumption. The same argument many a VAT or
sales taxes types profess.

No reason for an Apple product made in China sold in China should pay US
taxes.

And, dummy, they aren't and shouldn't have to. However, if they want
to sell in this country and they're based in this country, they should
be paying their fair share in this country.

We give China unreasonable breaks and then wonder why they are winning
the trade war.

Not entirely accurate. US culture is now lazy, lethargic, mentally lazy
entitlement types and falling behind. People don't want work, they want
welfare.

Actually, very accurate, but you're an idiot.

Mind you there are those working hard and cleaning up. Operative word,
work.

FACT: I bought a disk enclosure on Ebay that ended up coming from
China. Total cost including shipping was $2.30 and came air mail USPS.
I just mailed a pair of sunglasses to my daughter 150 miles away in
West Palm, it cost $1.79 USPS. Both boxes weighted about the same
(3.5-4 oz rate). Assuming the part was 30 cents, how can you ship
something half way around the world for virtually the same price as
it costs to ship across a skinny state?

US costs and wages are too high. Outside of US, everything is cheaper,
capital costs, wages, taxes, utilities, materials....

Taxation for example is a multiplier of over valuation. $200/hr to
clean teeth, government gets 1/2, doubles the cost of life.
Necessitating inflated wages.

You continue to astonish us with your stupidity.

I sent a camera to China last year and the price was about the same as
sending it to Australia (close to $80). If I got the same box from
China it would be cheaper than sending it to Miami.
Why is that?

And the childish name calling and insults continue....

On 11/08/2011 1:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:25 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:55:44 -0400, wrote:

In , says...

On 8/10/2011 9:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.
Abusive tax rate? You haven't been keeping up have you. Over fifteen
hundred Corporations paid no tax. If a corporation is paying the 35%
they better get a new tax accountant. When they do pay taxes, everything
including the kitchen sink is deducted before taxes.
Individuals usually pay a higher rate.
This spiel is getting old. Surprised many still swallow it.
If they make their money here, on Americans, they should pay their taxes
here to support the Republic. If they paid their share everyone else
could pay less, in theory.

If I have $100 billion in China and I pay 15% tax in China I have $85
billion. Then when I repatriate that money I pay 35% on my $100 billion
leaving me with $50 billion. Why would I ever want to lose half of my
profits just to bring the money to the USA?


If they want to sell products in this country, they should have to pay
their fair share of taxes like everyone else.

Should we in turn pay taxes to all of the countries that we export to?

Never said "export to." They have a going concern and are
headquartered here. They should pay taxes here.

But if they make profits elsewhere, then maybe they should move
elsewhere to be closer to profitable customers.
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:36:02 -0400, iBoat_Often wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:33:28 -0400, iBoat_Often wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:25 -0400, iBoat_Often wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:55:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 8/10/2011 9:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.
Abusive tax rate? You haven't been keeping up have you. Over fifteen
hundred Corporations paid no tax. If a corporation is paying the 35%
they better get a new tax accountant. When they do pay taxes, everything
including the kitchen sink is deducted before taxes.
Individuals usually pay a higher rate.
This spiel is getting old. Surprised many still swallow it.
If they make their money here, on Americans, they should pay their taxes
here to support the Republic. If they paid their share everyone else
could pay less, in theory.

If I have $100 billion in China and I pay 15% tax in China I have $85
billion. Then when I repatriate that money I pay 35% on my $100 billion
leaving me with $50 billion. Why would I ever want to lose half of my
profits just to bring the money to the USA?


If they want to sell products in this country, they should have to pay
their fair share of taxes like everyone else.

Should we in turn pay taxes to all of the countries that we export to?

Never said "export to." They have a going concern and are
headquartered here. They should pay taxes here.

Um, do you not think that in order to sell products in this country that
a foreign entity would have to export those products here???

I do, however, Apple is not a "foreign entity" last I checked. I
believe they're headquarters is in Cupertino, unless they've made
Delaware their official address.

whooooosh.......

So, you believe they're a foreign corporation??

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:42:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/08/2011 1:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:25 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:55:44 -0400, wrote:

In , says...

On 8/10/2011 9:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.
Abusive tax rate? You haven't been keeping up have you. Over fifteen
hundred Corporations paid no tax. If a corporation is paying the 35%
they better get a new tax accountant. When they do pay taxes, everything
including the kitchen sink is deducted before taxes.
Individuals usually pay a higher rate.
This spiel is getting old. Surprised many still swallow it.
If they make their money here, on Americans, they should pay their taxes
here to support the Republic. If they paid their share everyone else
could pay less, in theory.

If I have $100 billion in China and I pay 15% tax in China I have $85
billion. Then when I repatriate that money I pay 35% on my $100 billion
leaving me with $50 billion. Why would I ever want to lose half of my
profits just to bring the money to the USA?


If they want to sell products in this country, they should have to pay
their fair share of taxes like everyone else.

Should we in turn pay taxes to all of the countries that we export to?

Never said "export to." They have a going concern and are
headquartered here. They should pay taxes here.

But if they make profits elsewhere, then maybe they should move
elsewhere to be closer to profitable customers.

Dummy... I'm sure they pay taxes elsewhere for doing business
elsewhere. A huge percentage of their sales are in the US. They're a
US-based corp. I guess you're unaware of things like cost accounting
and such. Well, you're an idiot.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:41:44 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:17:02 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:53:15 -0400, wrote:


FACT: I bought a disk enclosure on Ebay that ended up coming from
China. Total cost including shipping was $2.30 and came air mail USPS.


I suspect they are building the cost of shipping into the price that
is paid for the item. I pay about $14 (depending) to ship a skirt to
Australia. I pay less than $5 to ship the skirt anywhere in the US.

Where are they hiding the cost. I only paid $2.30 total.

My postal carrier said it is because the USPS does not get anything
near the regular postage on imported goods. The US part of the trip is
getting a special rate. There are a lot of people ****ed about this at
USPS.

Maybe the disk enclosure only cost them $0.03 to make? No idea. You're
right though... China is just doing it's capitalistic best. I think
some regulation is in order.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:36:43 -0400, iBoat_Often wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:59:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/08/2011 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:35:14 -0600,
wrote:

On 10/08/2011 7:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.

Funny, I don't blame them. A iPad made in China and sold in China is
supposed to pay DC income tax?

Maybe China should impose a 5% currency loss taxes on US....

Hear yourself think? Look GE, putting $2B into China, moving its medial
where the profits are. Makes sense.

You backwards fleabeggars need to know the universe does not rotate
around USA. Who knows, maybe Apple will pick up sticks and move to
China. All USA has to offer is just more debt and debt-taxation.

Which is really why jobs suck, not a good environment.

Apple already does virtually all of it's manufacturing and assembly in
China and they do most of the markup there so they do not look that
profitable when they are sold here. The answer would be to tax these
products coming into the country at the same rate China taxes our
products going into their country.

Yep. And Americans pay the taxes. In a way you just made a case not to
tax companies but to tax consumption. The same argument many a VAT or
sales taxes types profess.

No reason for an Apple product made in China sold in China should pay US
taxes.

And, dummy, they aren't and shouldn't have to. However, if they want
to sell in this country and they're based in this country, they should
be paying their fair share in this country.

We give China unreasonable breaks and then wonder why they are winning
the trade war.

Not entirely accurate. US culture is now lazy, lethargic, mentally lazy
entitlement types and falling behind. People don't want work, they want
welfare.

Actually, very accurate, but you're an idiot.

Mind you there are those working hard and cleaning up. Operative word,
work.

FACT: I bought a disk enclosure on Ebay that ended up coming from
China. Total cost including shipping was $2.30 and came air mail USPS.
I just mailed a pair of sunglasses to my daughter 150 miles away in
West Palm, it cost $1.79 USPS. Both boxes weighted about the same
(3.5-4 oz rate). Assuming the part was 30 cents, how can you ship
something half way around the world for virtually the same price as
it costs to ship across a skinny state?

US costs and wages are too high. Outside of US, everything is cheaper,
capital costs, wages, taxes, utilities, materials....

Taxation for example is a multiplier of over valuation. $200/hr to
clean teeth, government gets 1/2, doubles the cost of life.
Necessitating inflated wages.

You continue to astonish us with your stupidity.

I sent a camera to China last year and the price was about the same as
sending it to Australia (close to $80). If I got the same box from
China it would be cheaper than sending it to Miami.
Why is that?

And the childish name calling and insults continue....

Feel free to contribute something of substance... oh wait, you don't
want to do that.

On 8/11/11 6:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:36:43 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:59:51 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/08/2011 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:35:14 -0600,
wrote:

On 10/08/2011 7:28 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:18:04 -0700, wrote:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Break...=B1&Id=1689508


Too bad Apple is keeping most of their cash in China (a fact)

Maybe if we didn't have such an abusive corporate tax rate they would
repatriate some of that money and perhaps, make something here.

Funny, I don't blame them. A iPad made in China and sold in China is
supposed to pay DC income tax?

Maybe China should impose a 5% currency loss taxes on US....

Hear yourself think? Look GE, putting $2B into China, moving its medial
where the profits are. Makes sense.

You backwards fleabeggars need to know the universe does not rotate
around USA. Who knows, maybe Apple will pick up sticks and move to
China. All USA has to offer is just more debt and debt-taxation.

Which is really why jobs suck, not a good environment.

Apple already does virtually all of it's manufacturing and assembly in
China and they do most of the markup there so they do not look that
profitable when they are sold here. The answer would be to tax these
products coming into the country at the same rate China taxes our
products going into their country.

Yep. And Americans pay the taxes. In a way you just made a case not to
tax companies but to tax consumption. The same argument many a VAT or
sales taxes types profess.

No reason for an Apple product made in China sold in China should pay US
taxes.

And, dummy, they aren't and shouldn't have to. However, if they want
to sell in this country and they're based in this country, they should
be paying their fair share in this country.

We give China unreasonable breaks and then wonder why they are winning
the trade war.

Not entirely accurate. US culture is now lazy, lethargic, mentally lazy
entitlement types and falling behind. People don't want work, they want
welfare.

Actually, very accurate, but you're an idiot.

Mind you there are those working hard and cleaning up. Operative word,
work.

FACT: I bought a disk enclosure on Ebay that ended up coming from
China. Total cost including shipping was $2.30 and came air mail USPS.
I just mailed a pair of sunglasses to my daughter 150 miles away in
West Palm, it cost $1.79 USPS. Both boxes weighted about the same
(3.5-4 oz rate). Assuming the part was 30 cents, how can you ship
something half way around the world for virtually the same price as
it costs to ship across a skinny state?

US costs and wages are too high. Outside of US, everything is cheaper,
capital costs, wages, taxes, utilities, materials....

Taxation for example is a multiplier of over valuation. $200/hr to
clean teeth, government gets 1/2, doubles the cost of life.
Necessitating inflated wages.

You continue to astonish us with your stupidity.

I sent a camera to China last year and the price was about the same as
sending it to Australia (close to $80). If I got the same box from
China it would be cheaper than sending it to Miami.
Why is that?

And the childish name calling and insults continue....

Feel free to contribute something of substance... oh wait, you don't
want to do that.


Why encourage the dumb little ****, Plume? No matter what "nym" he uses,
he's still the same moron.


--
Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing
conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the
quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear.

On 8/11/2011 4:41 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:17:02 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:53:15 -0400, wrote:


FACT: I bought a disk enclosure on Ebay that ended up coming from
China. Total cost including shipping was $2.30 and came air mail USPS.


I suspect they are building the cost of shipping into the price that
is paid for the item. I pay about $14 (depending) to ship a skirt to
Australia. I pay less than $5 to ship the skirt anywhere in the US.

Where are they hiding the cost. I only paid $2.30 total.

My postal carrier said it is because the USPS does not get anything
near the regular postage on imported goods. The US part of the trip is
getting a special rate. There are a lot of people ****ed about this at
USPS.
So with the USPS running another loss this quarter, we are paying the
Chinese to ship their **** here??