On 30/07/2011 9:24 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 11:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 8:21 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 6:27 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says...

On 7/30/2011 2:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:35 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:26:17 -0400, Beach Bum"not a
wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:34 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/






1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

At least they aren't *all* US jobs. But still it's not good to
lose any
jobs due to a country running helter skelter for lack of
leadership.

Were you one of the screamers when Obama kept GM afloat?


You mean when Obama illegally gave GM to the unions?

GM and Chrysler should have gone through the existing bankruptcy
process.

Maybe UAW should bailout the US government?

Investment in our government should be by the People.
They stopped selling bonds except in 10,000.00 increments to
Investors.
Americans need a stake in our Republic beyond being subjects.
Restart the small secure bond sales, by payroll deduction, at banks,
credit unions, and post offices.

You have never heard of a US Savings Bond, dumb-ass?

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/...s/products.htm
Buy one at the post office or by payroll deduction.

They only pay at max 1/10th of 1%. Or about $5 on $5000. Hardly worth
the gas to go there.

Which is also why the US is failing. Bernanke is printing USD so fast
with the intent of making the currency loose value fast. And that
attacks the wealth of America.

Zero rate debt is a huge fraud on America. Time just to call Bernanke a
criminal.

It could stand improvements. They have to have the push to do it though.
Americans should be able to invest in our Country. Who owns America
makes a difference.

Well to invest takes a fair trade. US government isn't giving out fair
trades for the money. They pay you 0% interest because they themselves
and the banks deem the money worthless.

Read up on the Tinkerbell Effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinkerbell_effect

USD has no real value other than ass wipe. However it has perceive but
not real value. If people view of it as having less value it will
depreciate. If it is perceived to have more value then it appreciates
(but that is rare).

Bernanke prints money, OK, he goes to a terminal and types it in, but it
was called counterfeiting as little as 40 years ago just before Nixon
unlined gold to USD. But today it is electronic counterfeiting. This
causes dilution of the currency, and thus reduces it value of each unit
past and present. Commonly known as inflation.

Over time this is disastrous. Dozens of countries have tried it and
everyone including USSR fell because of it. USA will in time too.

The reason Bernanke does this is that savers would want 6% to reflect
inflation and taxes, but government want 0%...so the fraud is have
Bernanke counterfeit it and provide it to short out the legitimate lender.

Only works right now as many investors just think USA is the only place
to invest. And it isn't. Also why in 2004 I massively reduced my
holdings in the USA to flea the currency meltdown. In this period the
USD has lost 35% or more of its value against the Yuan, the world second
biggest currency.

You don't see the drop as in the G8/20 it was agreed to do this with the
CAD, Euro, Pound and USD all at once in a huge fraud. The idea is to
devalue the debts by inflation. Pay a $1 borrowed today with a 50 cent
dollar tomorrow.

It is also why everyone in the world is ****ed off. If they had $2
billion USD, now it does not purchase as much as it did yesterday. Many
don't even realize how they were bamboozled by the US government and US
fed, but more and more they are catching on. It is why purchases to
India and China often trigger gold purchases, China and India each
swapped USD for well over 100 tons of gold in the last year. Even
Gaddafi doesn't trust Euro or USD, and has 144 tons of it.

Hey, these government-bank greed and conspiracy is very real. It is why
with this deb crisis Hilary was busy with the USA's biggest creditor,
China. And China is ****ed off. Hey, we lent you $2 trillion and we
are watching it devalue because you print it faster than Americans
consume toilet paper. At some point I expect China to cease accepting
USD and demand trade for products. Using currency only for same day
trading. Already happening between Russia and China actually. The fall
fo the USD as a world reserve is well under way.

How long it will take will depend on when people start selling off USD
for an alternative. As inflation ramps up, people will be desperate to
seek safe places to preserve wealth value. It is why you buy gold. If
a currency run occurs, and with Bernanke money print fraud it will come,
the only way to stop t is a sharp and fast interest rate hike.

You could wake up one morning and find oil went up 50%, as did gold,
food, imports especially, and a 15% interest rate. The interest rate is
needed to attract cash to stay and meet currency reserves.

And why I have reduced my USD and US investments. People get severely
burned by his life shafting even as you will not get income raises to
offset it. USA in in Japans lost decades, 20 years of no raises and he
people eat inflation. No way out either, short of raising interest
rates and the government can't afford that or they go bankrupt. I
prefer to call this the walking dead economy. People in a few years
will start to emigrate from the US because of it, just like Japan with a
1.13 (near 1/2 sustainable) birth rates and emigration -- a shrinking
population.

This crap is predicable Above is also does not have war mongering or
some asteroid issues...just a current forecast. A dead economy with low
wages and eventual tax creep.
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On 30/07/2011 9:25 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 11:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:04:17 -0400, wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 11:13 AM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 12:30 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:19 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:47:15 -0600,
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:47 -0600,
wrote:

http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/





1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

More craziness from a right-wing little freak.

So how deep does your denial go?

You do realize these workers pay your welfare?

You might want to think what you are going to do when DC is
bankrupt.

Dumb assed idiots can't figure out that government debt isn't the
solution, government debt is the problem. Blinded by their greed of
power and debt, they are in fact arguing about how to make it
worse.

where's the proof govt debt's the problem?

oh. there isn't any. why is the economy in the ****ter?

because people arent buying stuff. THAT is why the economy sucks. no
one is buying houses. we have millions unemployed....

but the right has their reader's digest stories....bull**** but it's
all they know

Where is the proof government debt is solving the problem?

Lots of proof exists that debt is the problem, just that most people
don't want to see it. Probably because the same people bitching about
"rich" are also the same ones that they themselves are chronic
debtors.
You average congress person carried over $15k on the credit card
every
money. Insane.

Being one of those students that showed up only for the math tests,
understood arithmetic and geometric progressions, became ready
apparent
debt has hidden costs. Tools are there, just that people are mentally
lazy to see them.

How you become rich is first understanding how it really works and
not
just succumbing to the greed pandering promise of "free" money.
Very few
"rich" carry any debt at all. Debt is a parasite on wealth. It is a
persons greed that is their own worst enemy when it comes to using
credit.

So wf3h, defumer -- enjoy being poor. You don't have the right
attitude
to be "rich".
there is nothing wrong with being rich. The one forming the debate
are
those benefitting from current tax policy and government.
They are crying class warfare when in fact they are the ones creating
the conflict. There are some of course that resent "rich folks" even
though the problem is not with being rich.
Middle America and Main Street is carrying the tax load while the
Global
Investor Class or Ownership society or Supply side
economists/governemetnalists pay little to none.
Looking at the problems with unbiased opinion is hard but thee are the
facts.

Agreed. What is going on in DC right now, except for the Tea Party is
just a pony show. Debt will be expanded and the business of corruption
will continue. People are not mad enough yet to stop the corruption.

The problem is not the rich that are worth say less than a billion. But
I do believe 1/2 or more of the billionaires are corrupt. There are
also
a lot of honest ones lie Warren Buffet. But persecuting them for
political greed is just blame deflection as the problem is much bigger.

I really think this is a Euro-US Central bank controlled war that is
killing off US middle class. To them, middle class are just disposable
tax sheep.

Zero percent interest is meant to trash the US government. They have
politicians so convinced that more debt is the answer, it is like
leading sheep to slaughter. Zero rate debt screws up government
revenue,
causes people not to invest and the vicious circle of self destruction
keeps going.

Real investors are suffering, that is why they are not investing. Real
investors are not the issue, the real issue is ponzi fraud baning that
is going on. I blame Bernanke more than I even blame Obama. A big
government **** fest of egalitarian bull**** going on.

I have worked for government off and on as a contractor, and all I see
is an organization that is hell bent on election ever growing, ever
more
ineffective, ever wasteful bunch of entitlement civil servant
egalitarian greed. Government does not give a **** about the people,
they are worried the people might discover government is the problem.

Media for example, always justifying the government line, why not more
debt? An totally ignore the morality of the debt-tax enslavement that
ensues.

At some point expect a national 10 to 15% wealth robbing VAT. The idea
is to get the debt high enough they will increase everyone (rich/middle
and poor) taxes by 150% of what they currently pay.

Taxation is being used for modern day enslavement to banks and the
hidden elite that really pull the strings in Europe, Saudi Arabia
and US.

Some of what you say is at tangents. there are many different classes
seeking to take advantage of America. That is the reason we have a
Consitution and supposedly our elected officials are to work to preserve
the union and protect our society and economy from predation.
The FED is unConstitutional. Congress had no authority to abandon it's
responsibility. The Bankers came with money and bought their way and he
who controls the money supply controls the Republic and economy.
I'm no fan of Jackson but he was spot. kennedy was going to reverse
course on that. One of Johnson's first steps was to stop it.
that is just one aspect.

The Fed is not unconstitutional. That's just right wing nonsense. The
Fed chairman is confirmed by the Senate. Feel free to lobby your
senator to have him or her block the next appointment or remove the
agency.
You don't read much do you. Right wing? How about American?

defumer is a sexually frustrated dependent of the US government.
Welfare bum probably.
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On 30/07/2011 9:23 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:37:47 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 30/07/2011 9:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:26:17 -0400, Beach Bum"not a
wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:34 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/


1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

At least they aren't *all* US jobs. But still it's not good to lose any
jobs due to a country running helter skelter for lack of leadership.

Were you one of the screamers when Obama kept GM afloat?

GM is going down again is the inside word. AmeriCredit is already
getting a lot of bad paper too.

GM is a turkey.

Crappy cars, crappy management, crappy workers.

The pig should be killed.

Not any more. And, they're backing much higher CAFE standards.

Just an excuse to **** the American consumer. Watch, GM will fail.
Just a mater of time. You can get a $3500 Tata Nano right now that gets
over 50 mpg. Why wait for GM to blow up?
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:25:42 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 7/30/2011 11:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:04:17 -0400, wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 11:13 AM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 12:30 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:19 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:47:15 -0600,
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:47 -0600,
wrote:

http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/




1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

More craziness from a right-wing little freak.

So how deep does your denial go?

You do realize these workers pay your welfare?

You might want to think what you are going to do when DC is bankrupt.

Dumb assed idiots can't figure out that government debt isn't the
solution, government debt is the problem. Blinded by their greed of
power and debt, they are in fact arguing about how to make it worse.

where's the proof govt debt's the problem?

oh. there isn't any. why is the economy in the ****ter?

because people arent buying stuff. THAT is why the economy sucks. no
one is buying houses. we have millions unemployed....

but the right has their reader's digest stories....bull**** but it's
all they know

Where is the proof government debt is solving the problem?

Lots of proof exists that debt is the problem, just that most people
don't want to see it. Probably because the same people bitching about
"rich" are also the same ones that they themselves are chronic debtors.
You average congress person carried over $15k on the credit card every
money. Insane.

Being one of those students that showed up only for the math tests,
understood arithmetic and geometric progressions, became ready apparent
debt has hidden costs. Tools are there, just that people are mentally
lazy to see them.

How you become rich is first understanding how it really works and not
just succumbing to the greed pandering promise of "free" money. Very few
"rich" carry any debt at all. Debt is a parasite on wealth. It is a
persons greed that is their own worst enemy when it comes to using
credit.

So wf3h, defumer -- enjoy being poor. You don't have the right attitude
to be "rich".
there is nothing wrong with being rich. The one forming the debate are
those benefitting from current tax policy and government.
They are crying class warfare when in fact they are the ones creating
the conflict. There are some of course that resent "rich folks" even
though the problem is not with being rich.
Middle America and Main Street is carrying the tax load while the Global
Investor Class or Ownership society or Supply side
economists/governemetnalists pay little to none.
Looking at the problems with unbiased opinion is hard but thee are the
facts.

Agreed. What is going on in DC right now, except for the Tea Party is
just a pony show. Debt will be expanded and the business of corruption
will continue. People are not mad enough yet to stop the corruption.

The problem is not the rich that are worth say less than a billion. But
I do believe 1/2 or more of the billionaires are corrupt. There are also
a lot of honest ones lie Warren Buffet. But persecuting them for
political greed is just blame deflection as the problem is much bigger.

I really think this is a Euro-US Central bank controlled war that is
killing off US middle class. To them, middle class are just disposable
tax sheep.

Zero percent interest is meant to trash the US government. They have
politicians so convinced that more debt is the answer, it is like
leading sheep to slaughter. Zero rate debt screws up government revenue,
causes people not to invest and the vicious circle of self destruction
keeps going.

Real investors are suffering, that is why they are not investing. Real
investors are not the issue, the real issue is ponzi fraud baning that
is going on. I blame Bernanke more than I even blame Obama. A big
government **** fest of egalitarian bull**** going on.

I have worked for government off and on as a contractor, and all I see
is an organization that is hell bent on election ever growing, ever more
ineffective, ever wasteful bunch of entitlement civil servant
egalitarian greed. Government does not give a **** about the people,
they are worried the people might discover government is the problem.

Media for example, always justifying the government line, why not more
debt? An totally ignore the morality of the debt-tax enslavement that
ensues.

At some point expect a national 10 to 15% wealth robbing VAT. The idea
is to get the debt high enough they will increase everyone (rich/middle
and poor) taxes by 150% of what they currently pay.

Taxation is being used for modern day enslavement to banks and the
hidden elite that really pull the strings in Europe, Saudi Arabia and US.

Some of what you say is at tangents. there are many different classes
seeking to take advantage of America. That is the reason we have a
Consitution and supposedly our elected officials are to work to preserve
the union and protect our society and economy from predation.
The FED is unConstitutional. Congress had no authority to abandon it's
responsibility. The Bankers came with money and bought their way and he
who controls the money supply controls the Republic and economy.
I'm no fan of Jackson but he was spot. kennedy was going to reverse
course on that. One of Johnson's first steps was to stop it.
that is just one aspect.

The Fed is not unconstitutional. That's just right wing nonsense. The
Fed chairman is confirmed by the Senate. Feel free to lobby your
senator to have him or her block the next appointment or remove the
agency.
You don't read much do you. Right wing? How about American?

It's nonsense. It's an old, tired argument that has absolutely no
merit. Feel free to keep pushing the same old bull if it makes you
feel like you're in control.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:17:23 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 9:25 PM, LilAbner wrote:
snip

defumer is a sexually frustrated dependent of the US government.
Welfare bum probably.

You're a lowlife who lives in a trailer. You're barred from entering
the US. You're bitter and racist. We get it.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:19:06 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 9:23 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:37:47 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 30/07/2011 9:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:26:17 -0400, Beach Bum"not a
wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:34 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/


1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

At least they aren't *all* US jobs. But still it's not good to lose any
jobs due to a country running helter skelter for lack of leadership.

Were you one of the screamers when Obama kept GM afloat?

GM is going down again is the inside word. AmeriCredit is already
getting a lot of bad paper too.

GM is a turkey.

Crappy cars, crappy management, crappy workers.

The pig should be killed.

Not any more. And, they're backing much higher CAFE standards.

Just an excuse to **** the American consumer. Watch, GM will fail.
Just a mater of time. You can get a $3500 Tata Nano right now that gets
over 50 mpg. Why wait for GM to blow up?

Sure... whatever moron.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:57:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 9:24 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 11:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 8:21 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 6:27 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says...

On 7/30/2011 2:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:35 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:26:17 -0400, Beach Bum"not a
wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:34 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/






1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

At least they aren't *all* US jobs. But still it's not good to
lose any
jobs due to a country running helter skelter for lack of
leadership.

Were you one of the screamers when Obama kept GM afloat?


You mean when Obama illegally gave GM to the unions?

GM and Chrysler should have gone through the existing bankruptcy
process.

Maybe UAW should bailout the US government?

Investment in our government should be by the People.
They stopped selling bonds except in 10,000.00 increments to
Investors.
Americans need a stake in our Republic beyond being subjects.
Restart the small secure bond sales, by payroll deduction, at banks,
credit unions, and post offices.

You have never heard of a US Savings Bond, dumb-ass?

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/...s/products.htm
Buy one at the post office or by payroll deduction.

They only pay at max 1/10th of 1%. Or about $5 on $5000. Hardly worth
the gas to go there.

Which is also why the US is failing. Bernanke is printing USD so fast
with the intent of making the currency loose value fast. And that
attacks the wealth of America.

Zero rate debt is a huge fraud on America. Time just to call Bernanke a
criminal.

It could stand improvements. They have to have the push to do it though.
Americans should be able to invest in our Country. Who owns America
makes a difference.

Well...

Two morons agreeing with each other... Call CNN.

On 7/31/2011 2:20 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:25:42 -0400, wrote:

On 7/30/2011 11:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:04:17 -0400, wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 11:13 AM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 12:30 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:19 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:47:15 -0600,
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:47 -0600,
wrote:

http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/




1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

More craziness from a right-wing little freak.

So how deep does your denial go?

You do realize these workers pay your welfare?

You might want to think what you are going to do when DC is bankrupt.

Dumb assed idiots can't figure out that government debt isn't the
solution, government debt is the problem. Blinded by their greed of
power and debt, they are in fact arguing about how to make it worse.

where's the proof govt debt's the problem?

oh. there isn't any. why is the economy in the ****ter?

because people arent buying stuff. THAT is why the economy sucks. no
one is buying houses. we have millions unemployed....

but the right has their reader's digest stories....bull**** but it's
all they know

Where is the proof government debt is solving the problem?

Lots of proof exists that debt is the problem, just that most people
don't want to see it. Probably because the same people bitching about
"rich" are also the same ones that they themselves are chronic debtors.
You average congress person carried over $15k on the credit card every
money. Insane.

Being one of those students that showed up only for the math tests,
understood arithmetic and geometric progressions, became ready apparent
debt has hidden costs. Tools are there, just that people are mentally
lazy to see them.

How you become rich is first understanding how it really works and not
just succumbing to the greed pandering promise of "free" money. Very few
"rich" carry any debt at all. Debt is a parasite on wealth. It is a
persons greed that is their own worst enemy when it comes to using
credit.

So wf3h, defumer -- enjoy being poor. You don't have the right attitude
to be "rich".
there is nothing wrong with being rich. The one forming the debate are
those benefitting from current tax policy and government.
They are crying class warfare when in fact they are the ones creating
the conflict. There are some of course that resent "rich folks" even
though the problem is not with being rich.
Middle America and Main Street is carrying the tax load while the Global
Investor Class or Ownership society or Supply side
economists/governemetnalists pay little to none.
Looking at the problems with unbiased opinion is hard but thee are the
facts.

Agreed. What is going on in DC right now, except for the Tea Party is
just a pony show. Debt will be expanded and the business of corruption
will continue. People are not mad enough yet to stop the corruption.

The problem is not the rich that are worth say less than a billion. But
I do believe 1/2 or more of the billionaires are corrupt. There are also
a lot of honest ones lie Warren Buffet. But persecuting them for
political greed is just blame deflection as the problem is much bigger.

I really think this is a Euro-US Central bank controlled war that is
killing off US middle class. To them, middle class are just disposable
tax sheep.

Zero percent interest is meant to trash the US government. They have
politicians so convinced that more debt is the answer, it is like
leading sheep to slaughter. Zero rate debt screws up government revenue,
causes people not to invest and the vicious circle of self destruction
keeps going.

Real investors are suffering, that is why they are not investing. Real
investors are not the issue, the real issue is ponzi fraud baning that
is going on. I blame Bernanke more than I even blame Obama. A big
government **** fest of egalitarian bull**** going on.

I have worked for government off and on as a contractor, and all I see
is an organization that is hell bent on election ever growing, ever more
ineffective, ever wasteful bunch of entitlement civil servant
egalitarian greed. Government does not give a **** about the people,
they are worried the people might discover government is the problem.

Media for example, always justifying the government line, why not more
debt? An totally ignore the morality of the debt-tax enslavement that
ensues.

At some point expect a national 10 to 15% wealth robbing VAT. The idea
is to get the debt high enough they will increase everyone (rich/middle
and poor) taxes by 150% of what they currently pay.

Taxation is being used for modern day enslavement to banks and the
hidden elite that really pull the strings in Europe, Saudi Arabia and US.

Some of what you say is at tangents. there are many different classes
seeking to take advantage of America. That is the reason we have a
Consitution and supposedly our elected officials are to work to preserve
the union and protect our society and economy from predation.
The FED is unConstitutional. Congress had no authority to abandon it's
responsibility. The Bankers came with money and bought their way and he
who controls the money supply controls the Republic and economy.
I'm no fan of Jackson but he was spot. kennedy was going to reverse
course on that. One of Johnson's first steps was to stop it.
that is just one aspect.

The Fed is not unconstitutional. That's just right wing nonsense. The
Fed chairman is confirmed by the Senate. Feel free to lobby your
senator to have him or her block the next appointment or remove the
agency.
You don't read much do you. Right wing? How about American?

It's nonsense. It's an old, tired argument that has absolutely no
merit. Feel free to keep pushing the same old bull if it makes you
feel like you're in control.
Boy you sure told me. Guess I'll call Al and tell him he's right.

In article , says...

On 7/30/2011 6:27 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says...

On 7/30/2011 2:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:35 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:26:17 -0400, Beach Bum"not a
wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:34 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/



1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

At least they aren't *all* US jobs. But still it's not good to lose any
jobs due to a country running helter skelter for lack of leadership.

Were you one of the screamers when Obama kept GM afloat?


You mean when Obama illegally gave GM to the unions?

GM and Chrysler should have gone through the existing bankruptcy
process.

Maybe UAW should bailout the US government?

Investment in our government should be by the People.
They stopped selling bonds except in 10,000.00 increments to Investors.
Americans need a stake in our Republic beyond being subjects.
Restart the small secure bond sales, by payroll deduction, at banks,
credit unions, and post offices.

You have never heard of a US Savings Bond, dumb-ass?

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/...s/products.htm
Buy one at the post office or by payroll deduction.

I proved that you could still buy bonds in denominations less than
$10,000. You don't have to like they way they sell them but.

On 7/31/2011 1:17 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 9:25 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 11:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:04:17 -0400, wrote:

On 7/30/2011 1:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 11:13 AM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/30/2011 12:30 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2011 10:19 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:47:15 -0600,
wrote:

On 30/07/2011 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:47 -0600,
wrote:

http://www.boston.com/business/healt...off_1200_plus/






1200 direct and who nows how many indirect jobs are lost.

Another victim of Obama-tax.

More craziness from a right-wing little freak.

So how deep does your denial go?

You do realize these workers pay your welfare?

You might want to think what you are going to do when DC is
bankrupt.

Dumb assed idiots can't figure out that government debt isn't the
solution, government debt is the problem. Blinded by their
greed of
power and debt, they are in fact arguing about how to make it
worse.

where's the proof govt debt's the problem?

oh. there isn't any. why is the economy in the ****ter?

because people arent buying stuff. THAT is why the economy
sucks. no
one is buying houses. we have millions unemployed....

but the right has their reader's digest stories....bull**** but
it's
all they know

Where is the proof government debt is solving the problem?

Lots of proof exists that debt is the problem, just that most people
don't want to see it. Probably because the same people bitching
about
"rich" are also the same ones that they themselves are chronic
debtors.
You average congress person carried over $15k on the credit card
every
money. Insane.

Being one of those students that showed up only for the math tests,
understood arithmetic and geometric progressions, became ready
apparent
debt has hidden costs. Tools are there, just that people are
mentally
lazy to see them.

How you become rich is first understanding how it really works and
not
just succumbing to the greed pandering promise of "free" money.
Very few
"rich" carry any debt at all. Debt is a parasite on wealth. It is a
persons greed that is their own worst enemy when it comes to using
credit.

So wf3h, defumer -- enjoy being poor. You don't have the right
attitude
to be "rich".
there is nothing wrong with being rich. The one forming the debate
are
those benefitting from current tax policy and government.
They are crying class warfare when in fact they are the ones creating
the conflict. There are some of course that resent "rich folks" even
though the problem is not with being rich.
Middle America and Main Street is carrying the tax load while the
Global
Investor Class or Ownership society or Supply side
economists/governemetnalists pay little to none.
Looking at the problems with unbiased opinion is hard but thee are
the
facts.

Agreed. What is going on in DC right now, except for the Tea Party is
just a pony show. Debt will be expanded and the business of corruption
will continue. People are not mad enough yet to stop the corruption.

The problem is not the rich that are worth say less than a billion.
But
I do believe 1/2 or more of the billionaires are corrupt. There are
also
a lot of honest ones lie Warren Buffet. But persecuting them for
political greed is just blame deflection as the problem is much
bigger.

I really think this is a Euro-US Central bank controlled war that is
killing off US middle class. To them, middle class are just disposable
tax sheep.

Zero percent interest is meant to trash the US government. They have
politicians so convinced that more debt is the answer, it is like
leading sheep to slaughter. Zero rate debt screws up government
revenue,
causes people not to invest and the vicious circle of self destruction
keeps going.

Real investors are suffering, that is why they are not investing. Real
investors are not the issue, the real issue is ponzi fraud baning that
is going on. I blame Bernanke more than I even blame Obama. A big
government **** fest of egalitarian bull**** going on.

I have worked for government off and on as a contractor, and all I see
is an organization that is hell bent on election ever growing, ever
more
ineffective, ever wasteful bunch of entitlement civil servant
egalitarian greed. Government does not give a **** about the people,
they are worried the people might discover government is the problem.

Media for example, always justifying the government line, why not more
debt? An totally ignore the morality of the debt-tax enslavement that
ensues.

At some point expect a national 10 to 15% wealth robbing VAT. The idea
is to get the debt high enough they will increase everyone
(rich/middle
and poor) taxes by 150% of what they currently pay.

Taxation is being used for modern day enslavement to banks and the
hidden elite that really pull the strings in Europe, Saudi Arabia
and US.

Some of what you say is at tangents. there are many different classes
seeking to take advantage of America. That is the reason we have a
Consitution and supposedly our elected officials are to work to
preserve
the union and protect our society and economy from predation.
The FED is unConstitutional. Congress had no authority to abandon it's
responsibility. The Bankers came with money and bought their way and he
who controls the money supply controls the Republic and economy.
I'm no fan of Jackson but he was spot. kennedy was going to reverse
course on that. One of Johnson's first steps was to stop it.
that is just one aspect.

The Fed is not unconstitutional. That's just right wing nonsense. The
Fed chairman is confirmed by the Senate. Feel free to lobby your
senator to have him or her block the next appointment or remove the
agency.
You don't read much do you. Right wing? How about American?

defumer is a sexually frustrated dependent of the US government. Welfare
bum probably.

She's a confused little urchin. Probably going to grow up being exactly
like Harry. An unproductive pustule.