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Old Town - Twin Otter or similar
We are looking into the Old Town Twin Otter kayak. It seems like a good
family boat, good leg room for both front and rear (I'm 6' 3" and would mostly have the back seat), wide beam for stability and the Poly3 appears to be strong. The boat will see flat lakes 99% of the time. We liked the movable seats, single paddler capability, and wide cockpit. We have two boys and even the oldest was able to sit in front of me in the front seat without being a paddle problem. Questions: 1. Any pros or cons from people that have actually paddled one. 2. How does it track? 3. Anyone used one while fishing? Is the final stability good enough to move about a bit without the feeling of going in the drink? 4. Durability over time of the material? 5. Ease of righting and re-boarding it when flipped? Any other suggestions on brands that have the same amount of room and open cockpit design? It's never to early to think Spring!!! |
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Kevin,
Just subscribed to the newsgroup and saw your message. Better late than never... I will be happy to give you my unbiased opinion, then mention that we are selling ours... : - ) Seriously, I will try to be objective... 1. General opinion : I am 6'3" 200 lbs and my wife is 6'0" ~140 lbs (gotta be careful...) and we occasionally put the dog in as well @60 lbs...We have owned our Twin Otter for 4 years and have only good things to say about it. The only drawback I can think of is that it is about 5-10 lbs heavier than a comparable length tandem, apparently due to the poly link sandwich construction. At 68 lbs, this has not been a problem for us. The PolyLink construction allows a pretty stiff hull without the typical keel bar, oilcanning, etc of the single skin rotomolded hulls. Seats and footrests are very comfy. We bought a second set of footrests for me to use when solo, but never needed to install - the forward seat is a perfect footrest/brace... 2. Tracking : This is the main reason we bought the boat. Compared to other tandems, it tracks exceptionally well, especially with only one paddler. It will, of course, not track as well as most singles. We were able to do a direct comparison to many other boats at two "open house" events at lakes where the dealers had several on hand for the crowd to try out. The Twin Otter was hands down winner for single and double paddling.. 3. Stability is excellent. Our dalmation is not a natural sailor, and at 60 lbs and wiggling around, can cause quite a disturbance, especially when the curious duck wanders by - never a worry about tipping. The boat is also easy to get in and out of without too much effort - my 65 year old dad was able to manage with no problem... Pretty good wave handling... we have seen 2 footers with no real concern. We were much more worried about the wind and lightening (thunderstorm snuck up on us...) 4. The durability has been very good - no problems except one of the handles pulled out - a manufacturing issue (hole drilled too close to the edge) rather than a material problem. 5. Righting : Never tried. Never flipped. Well, actually I have tried but not successfully - my wife has generally hit me with her paddle before I could get the boat really rocking... Really, though, while I would not try standing (more because I'm a klutz), the boat would be pretty tough to turtle. If it did, with the large cockpit opening, you would scoop a lot of water. This is true for any open cockpit, though. I suspect righting this boat would not be much different than any other in it's class... OK, now for the sell job... ours is red and comes with paddles (and extra footrests). We are asking$450. We are in Rochester NY an hour east of Buffalo. As for the inevitable "why are you selling": we are reducing the fleet down to a manageable 2 boats (22' sailboat and dingy) from 32', 22', and 13' sailboats, a kayak, and 2 inflatable dingys... Give us a shout if you are interested. Cheers, Don "Kevin" wrote in message ... We are looking into the Old Town Twin Otter kayak. It seems like a good family boat, good leg room for both front and rear (I'm 6' 3" and would mostly have the back seat), wide beam for stability and the Poly3 appears to be strong. The boat will see flat lakes 99% of the time. We liked the movable seats, single paddler capability, and wide cockpit. We have two boys and even the oldest was able to sit in front of me in the front seat without being a paddle problem. Questions: 1. Any pros or cons from people that have actually paddled one. 2. How does it track? 3. Anyone used one while fishing? Is the final stability good enough to move about a bit without the feeling of going in the drink? 4. Durability over time of the material? 5. Ease of righting and re-boarding it when flipped? Any other suggestions on brands that have the same amount of room and open cockpit design? It's never to early to think Spring!!! |
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Old Town - Twin Otter or similar
We ended up purchasing a used Perception Sundance II 15.0 that is in
beautiful condition and has the '03 model seats that are MUCH nicer than the '04 model seat backs. The Twin Otter was a close second in choice, but there were a few things we liked better about the Sundance II. Thanks for replying though. Kevin "Don" wrote in message ... Kevin, Just subscribed to the newsgroup and saw your message. Better late than never... I will be happy to give you my unbiased opinion, then mention that we are selling ours... : - ) Seriously, I will try to be objective... 1. General opinion : I am 6'3" 200 lbs and my wife is 6'0" ~140 lbs (gotta be careful...) and we occasionally put the dog in as well @60 lbs...We have owned our Twin Otter for 4 years and have only good things to say about it. The only drawback I can think of is that it is about 5-10 lbs heavier than a comparable length tandem, apparently due to the poly link sandwich construction. At 68 lbs, this has not been a problem for us. The PolyLink construction allows a pretty stiff hull without the typical keel bar, oilcanning, etc of the single skin rotomolded hulls. Seats and footrests are very comfy. We bought a second set of footrests for me to use when solo, but never needed to install - the forward seat is a perfect footrest/brace... 2. Tracking : This is the main reason we bought the boat. Compared to other tandems, it tracks exceptionally well, especially with only one paddler. It will, of course, not track as well as most singles. We were able to do a direct comparison to many other boats at two "open house" events at lakes where the dealers had several on hand for the crowd to try out. The Twin Otter was hands down winner for single and double paddling.. 3. Stability is excellent. Our dalmation is not a natural sailor, and at 60 lbs and wiggling around, can cause quite a disturbance, especially when the curious duck wanders by - never a worry about tipping. The boat is also easy to get in and out of without too much effort - my 65 year old dad was able to manage with no problem... Pretty good wave handling... we have seen 2 footers with no real concern. We were much more worried about the wind and lightening (thunderstorm snuck up on us...) 4. The durability has been very good - no problems except one of the handles pulled out - a manufacturing issue (hole drilled too close to the edge) rather than a material problem. 5. Righting : Never tried. Never flipped. Well, actually I have tried but not successfully - my wife has generally hit me with her paddle before I could get the boat really rocking... Really, though, while I would not try standing (more because I'm a klutz), the boat would be pretty tough to turtle. If it did, with the large cockpit opening, you would scoop a lot of water. This is true for any open cockpit, though. I suspect righting this boat would not be much different than any other in it's class... OK, now for the sell job... ours is red and comes with paddles (and extra footrests). We are asking$450. We are in Rochester NY an hour east of Buffalo. As for the inevitable "why are you selling": we are reducing the fleet down to a manageable 2 boats (22' sailboat and dingy) from 32', 22', and 13' sailboats, a kayak, and 2 inflatable dingys... Give us a shout if you are interested. Cheers, Don "Kevin" wrote in message ... We are looking into the Old Town Twin Otter kayak. It seems like a good family boat, good leg room for both front and rear (I'm 6' 3" and would mostly have the back seat), wide beam for stability and the Poly3 appears to be strong. The boat will see flat lakes 99% of the time. We liked the movable seats, single paddler capability, and wide cockpit. We have two boys and even the oldest was able to sit in front of me in the front seat without being a paddle problem. Questions: 1. Any pros or cons from people that have actually paddled one. 2. How does it track? 3. Anyone used one while fishing? Is the final stability good enough to move about a bit without the feeling of going in the drink? 4. Durability over time of the material? 5. Ease of righting and re-boarding it when flipped? Any other suggestions on brands that have the same amount of room and open cockpit design? It's never to early to think Spring!!! |
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