Although the economy in most of the country is stuck in Obama's
depression due to his doing all he can to kill jobs, some places are
actually booming. Wyoming has only 5.9% unemployment and it seemed
like most businesses have "help wanted" signs and the local paper was
filled with good paying jobs. Almost all are oil and gas related but
good jobs nevertheless. Next door in Blue state Colorado, the
situation looks bad with very few jobs and businesses closing.
We did not go thru ND but people in WY told us that they were being
recruited to move to ND to work with major pay increases. ND is
having a major oil and gas boom too. TX is having an oil and gas boom
and high employment because they are business friendly and have not
allowed Obama's job destroying policies to be implemented. Meanwhile,
in LA and MS, Obama's policies have nearly killed the offshore oil and
gas business eliminating over 250,000 jobs.
Back in FL, things look grim with empty houses not being sold and
unemployment at 13% and the enviroes not allowing offshore drilling.
Elections have consequences.

On 26/07/2011 3:38 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Although the economy in most of the country is stuck in Obama's
depression due to his doing all he can to kill jobs, some places are
actually booming. Wyoming has only 5.9% unemployment and it seemed
like most businesses have "help wanted" signs and the local paper was
filled with good paying jobs. Almost all are oil and gas related but
good jobs nevertheless. Next door in Blue state Colorado, the
situation looks bad with very few jobs and businesses closing.
We did not go thru ND but people in WY told us that they were being
recruited to move to ND to work with major pay increases. ND is
having a major oil and gas boom too. TX is having an oil and gas boom
and high employment because they are business friendly and have not
allowed Obama's job destroying policies to be implemented. Meanwhile,
in LA and MS, Obama's policies have nearly killed the offshore oil and
gas business eliminating over 250,000 jobs.
Back in FL, things look grim with empty houses not being sold and
unemployment at 13% and the enviroes not allowing offshore drilling.
Elections have consequences.

It is as if Obama wants to ruin the USA with debt and unemployment.
Obama, doing what Osama could not do.

Actually that is harsh on Obama as I believe it to be a larger problem.
To be fair when 2006 democrat congress had the US Fed create money
fraudulently to lower interest rates to zero, that was a cornerstone of
US government bankruptcy.

Take a retired worker, say $5M in the IRA/Cash accounts. 5% interest or
dividends would be a $250K taxable income. At todays rates the same
person pays no taxes because the earned taxable income is under their
basic deductions. Even business are under no pressure to earn as much
with zero rates for money, so 9% earnigns migh be 4% for even less taxes.

In short, what destroyed government revenue was ponzi fraud US
Fed-Bernanke and democrat lust for cheap debt.

Investors like me don't take on investments that create jobs if my
return is below inflation+taxes+risk...not going to happen.

And people earning less, spend less and it trickles through as unemployment.

Meanwhile Obama bails out the corrupt, spending more then ever before.

Fleabaggers need a bitch slap to wake up.

State side, I would not move to a state without checking out it's debt
situation. I even factor this in to what few investments I have left in
the USA checking out a prospective investments home states credit
situation. Last thing I want is to invest into a state that is about to
get tax greedy.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote:

Although the economy in most of the country is stuck in Obama's
depression due to his doing all he can to kill jobs, some places are
actually booming. Wyoming has only 5.9% unemployment and it seemed
like most businesses have "help wanted" signs and the local paper was
filled with good paying jobs. Almost all are oil and gas related but
good jobs nevertheless. Next door in Blue state Colorado, the
situation looks bad with very few jobs and businesses closing.
We did not go thru ND but people in WY told us that they were being
recruited to move to ND to work with major pay increases. ND is
having a major oil and gas boom too. TX is having an oil and gas boom
and high employment because they are business friendly and have not
allowed Obama's job destroying policies to be implemented. Meanwhile,
in LA and MS, Obama's policies have nearly killed the offshore oil and
gas business eliminating over 250,000 jobs.
Back in FL, things look grim with empty houses not being sold and
unemployment at 13% and the enviroes not allowing offshore drilling.
Elections have consequences.

Well, you know what they say:

The problems we face today are
there because the people who work
for a living are outnumbered by those
who vote for a living.

Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, Cleveland, Miami, Philadelphia, etc., etc. I guess you
could pick any city where over 75% of the new births occur out of wedlock.

But, marriage doesn't mean anything to liberals, so what the hell.

On 7/26/11 5:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Take a retired worker, say $5M in the IRA/Cash accounts. 5% interest or
dividends would be a $250K taxable income. At todays rates the same
person pays no taxes because the earned taxable income is under their
basic deductions. Even business are under no pressure to earn as much
with zero rates for money, so 9% earnigns migh be 4% for even less taxes.

A retired worker with *$5 million* in IRA/Cash Accounts?

What are you smoking?

On 26/07/2011 4:02 PM, X-Man wrote:
On 7/26/11 5:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Take a retired worker, say $5M in the IRA/Cash accounts. 5% interest or
dividends would be a $250K taxable income. At todays rates the same
person pays no taxes because the earned taxable income is under their
basic deductions. Even business are under no pressure to earn as much
with zero rates for money, so 9% earnigns migh be 4% for even less taxes.

A retired worker with *$5 million* in IRA/Cash Accounts?

What are you smoking?

True conservative workers accumulate cash over a working career. See,
once you are out of debt you can pay yourself to be rich.

But fleabaggers don't know about that, all they want is more debt to
live beyond their means. Too busy paying other people money for their
debts.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

On 7/26/11 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/07/2011 4:02 PM, X-Man wrote:
On 7/26/11 5:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Take a retired worker, say $5M in the IRA/Cash accounts. 5% interest or
dividends would be a $250K taxable income. At todays rates the same
person pays no taxes because the earned taxable income is under their
basic deductions. Even business are under no pressure to earn as much
with zero rates for money, so 9% earnigns migh be 4% for even less
taxes.

A retired worker with *$5 million* in IRA/Cash Accounts?

What are you smoking?

True conservative workers accumulate cash over a working career. See,
once you are out of debt you can pay yourself to be rich.

But fleabaggers don't know about that, all they want is more debt to
live beyond their means. Too busy paying other people money for their
debts.


"Workers" aren't likely to accumulate $5 million in IRA/Cash Accounts.

I doubt you hve $500 in an IRA/Cash Account.

I have a small pile of cash sitting in a money market account. I'll bet
there is more in there than you've ever seen.

On 26/07/2011 3:58 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Although the economy in most of the country is stuck in Obama's
depression due to his doing all he can to kill jobs, some places are
actually booming. Wyoming has only 5.9% unemployment and it seemed
like most businesses have "help wanted" signs and the local paper was
filled with good paying jobs. Almost all are oil and gas related but
good jobs nevertheless. Next door in Blue state Colorado, the
situation looks bad with very few jobs and businesses closing.
We did not go thru ND but people in WY told us that they were being
recruited to move to ND to work with major pay increases. ND is
having a major oil and gas boom too. TX is having an oil and gas boom
and high employment because they are business friendly and have not
allowed Obama's job destroying policies to be implemented. Meanwhile,
in LA and MS, Obama's policies have nearly killed the offshore oil and
gas business eliminating over 250,000 jobs.
Back in FL, things look grim with empty houses not being sold and
unemployment at 13% and the enviroes not allowing offshore drilling.
Elections have consequences.

Well, you know what they say:

The problems we face today are
there because the people who work
for a living are outnumbered by those
who vote for a living.

Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, Cleveland, Miami, Philadelphia, etc., etc. I guess you
could pick any city where over 75% of the new births occur out of wedlock.

But, marriage doesn't mean anything to liberals, so what the hell.

More truth to that than you know. Say 313 million people in the USA, of
which about 55% are children, students, retired, disabled, criminals,
war vets, bums and welfare. Gives about 140 eligible to be workers.

At least 5% will always be unemployed, too much pot, booze, drugs or
belligerent attitudes. 20% are moms, pregnant, caring for children or
professional home makers. Which leaves about 105 million working apes.

Of the 105 million, 12% are in the government somehow be it civic,
county, state, federal or armed services. This also includes government
funded positions at colleges, academics, direct government contractors
and other that are on a government derived payroll. Leaving 92 million
to actually pay for it all in non-consumption jobs.

But wait, real unemployment is about 20%. That leaves producers of 83
million.

Given about 74% can vote, or about 231 million. Voters that are not
producers is 231-83, about 148 million can vote but do not produce.

Producers of 83 million are clearly outnumbered. That is, 65 million
more people have big fat government and more taxes as the answer as
their vested interest, than there are people who support and pay for it.

So producers are clearly outnumbered. Perhaps they should unionize
against the government repression?

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Although the economy in most of the country is stuck in Obama's
depression due to his doing all he can to kill jobs,

ah the voice of the klan speaks

the depression started in 2007...a year before obama took office

but he's black so he MUST be to blame

bush started new programs that caused FIVE TRILLION in debt

obama did 1.8

but the black guy caused all our problems...

aint the racist right a wonder!

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:16:10 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 26/07/2011 4:02 PM, X-Man wrote:
On 7/26/11 5:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


Take a retired worker, say $5M in the IRA/Cash accounts. 5% interest or
dividends would be a $250K taxable income. At todays rates the same
person pays no taxes because the earned taxable income is under their
basic deductions. Even business are under no pressure to earn as much
with zero rates for money, so 9% earnigns migh be 4% for even less taxes.

A retired worker with *$5 million* in IRA/Cash Accounts?

What are you smoking?

True conservative workers accumulate cash over a working career. See,
once you are out of debt you can pay yourself to be rich.p

true conservatives bankrupted the US. they ran up FIVE TRILLION in
debt

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:58:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote:

Although the economy in most of the country is stuck in Obama's
depression due to his doing all he can to kill jobs, some places are
actually booming. Wyoming has only 5.9% unemployment and it seemed
like most businesses have "help wanted" signs and the local paper was
filled with good paying jobs. Almost all are oil and gas related but
good jobs nevertheless. Next door in Blue state Colorado, the
situation looks bad with very few jobs and businesses closing.
We did not go thru ND but people in WY told us that they were being
recruited to move to ND to work with major pay increases. ND is
having a major oil and gas boom too. TX is having an oil and gas boom
and high employment because they are business friendly and have not
allowed Obama's job destroying policies to be implemented. Meanwhile,
in LA and MS, Obama's policies have nearly killed the offshore oil and
gas business eliminating over 250,000 jobs.
Back in FL, things look grim with empty houses not being sold and
unemployment at 13% and the enviroes not allowing offshore drilling.
Elections have consequences.

Well, you know what they say:

The problems we face today are
there because the people who work
for a living are outnumbered by those
who vote for a living.

Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, Cleveland, Miami, Philadelphia, etc., etc. I guess you
could pick any city where over 75% of the new births occur out of wedlock.

But, marriage doesn't mean anything to liberals, so what the hell.

HAHAHAHAH biggest suckers on the federal tit?

THE RED STATES

states with highest out of wedlock births

THE RED STATES

states with highest abortion rates

THE RED STATES

etc etc