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how to save $8 trillion
The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE
Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. |
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On 22/07/2011 10:16 AM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/22/2011 12:08 PM, wrote: The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. You going to get Islamic terrorists, China, Somolia pirates to cut their budget too. You can still fight a war for less than 40% of the cost, who is kidding who? Fact is the politicians chose the most expensive, most inefficient, least effective way to fight wars for political posturing. Change those inputs and war become cheap. Somalia pirates? 50mm rounds from a cruiser is all it takes. No need to even see if there are survivors. Kill pirates on sight. No need to chase or arrest them with 3 aircraft carriers and F22s. At the port where pirates hide out, just firebomb the place off the map. One strike, 1000 dead pirates. Game over. Why China, they are peaceful, have had a lot less interfering wars with other countries than the USA in the last 100 years. The real war mongers are in America. A force 20 times bigger than is needed for domestic sovereignty and security. Can kill like no other. Oh, I see, you want war with China to welsh on that huge debts American politicians owe them. $1.6 trillion of treasuries Chinese own, then the few trillion in trade paper because Americans are greedy welshers? Is that what you mean? Isn't it easier to just pay your damned bills with real money than start WW III? -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too! |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:21:58 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 22/07/2011 10:16 AM, LilAbner wrote: On 7/22/2011 12:08 PM, wrote: The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. You going to get Islamic terrorists, China, Somolia pirates to cut their budget too. You can still fight a war for less than 40% of the cost, who is kidding who? Fact is the politicians chose the most expensive, most inefficient, least effective way to fight wars for political posturing. Change those inputs and war become cheap. Somalia pirates? 50mm rounds from a cruiser is all it takes. No need to even see if there are survivors. Kill pirates on sight. No need to chase or arrest them with 3 aircraft carriers and F22s. At the port where pirates hide out, just firebomb the place off the map. One strike, 1000 dead pirates. Game over. Why China, they are peaceful, have had a lot less interfering wars with other countries than the USA in the last 100 years. The real war mongers are in America. A force 20 times bigger than is needed for domestic sovereignty and security. Can kill like no other. Oh, I see, you want war with China to welsh on that huge debts American politicians owe them. $1.6 trillion of treasuries Chinese own, then the few trillion in trade paper because Americans are greedy welshers? Is that what you mean? Isn't it easier to just pay your damned bills with real money than start WW III? My my... even the lunatic racist occasionally has a worthwhile post! Way to go Knuckles! |
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On 7/22/2011 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:16:36 -0400, wrote: On 7/22/2011 12:08 PM, wrote: The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. You going to get Islamic terrorists, China, Somolia pirates to cut their budget too. Huh? Terrorists are an overblown threat. China is a business rival, and Somalia pirates have nothing to do with our debt. You have blinders on. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:54:57 -0400, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/22/2011 3:43 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:16:36 -0400, wrote: On 7/22/2011 12:08 PM, wrote: The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. You going to get Islamic terrorists, China, Somolia pirates to cut their budget too. Huh? Terrorists are an overblown threat. China is a business rival, and Somalia pirates have nothing to do with our debt. You have blinders on. Stunning rejoinder. Obviously, you graduated from 6th grade! |
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On 7/22/2011 7:05 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:54:57 -0400, wrote: On 7/22/2011 3:43 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:16:36 -0400, wrote: On 7/22/2011 12:08 PM, wrote: The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. You going to get Islamic terrorists, China, Somolia pirates to cut their budget too. Huh? Terrorists are an overblown threat. China is a business rival, and Somalia pirates have nothing to do with our debt. You have blinders on. Stunning rejoinder. Obviously, you graduated from 6th grade! Yes I did. |
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On 7/22/2011 6:54 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/22/2011 3:43 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:16:36 -0400, wrote: On 7/22/2011 12:08 PM, wrote: The easy, painless way to save $2T: PEACE Each one of the following would save up to $1 trillion, or more, over the next ten years. Guess what? The teabaggers are opposed to all of them, including the $2T for not fighting any more wars for a while. $1T: We could let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire. (“No! No!” shout the Koch brothers.) $1T: We could let Medicare negotiate the price of drugs, the way that the VA and private insurance companies already do. $1T: We could require the rich to pay the same percentage of their income toward Social Security and Medicare as the poor and the middle class do. Not a higher percentage – my God, that would be progressive taxation! Just the same percentage. $1T: We could impose the same alternative minimum tax on giant corporations that we mere humans must pay. $1T: We could reduce U.S. military spending to a paltry 40% of the world’s total, from the current 48%, which would still leave us spending four times as much as any other nation. $1T: We could make Warren Buffett pay the same tax rate on his income as his secretary pays on hers, by eliminating the long-term capital gains tax break, the great majority of which goes to the hyper-rich. You going to get Islamic terrorists, China, Somolia pirates to cut their budget too. Huh? Terrorists are an overblown threat. China is a business rival, and Somalia pirates have nothing to do with our debt. You have blinders on. It deserves a better answer than that. She put a lot of thought into it. |
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