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On Jun 22, 11:56*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:48:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 22, 10:11 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On advice from ppl in this group, I paid the big bucks for a good generator and got a Yamaha 2000 watt for $989 from Amazon (yeah, I know a weird place to buy a generator). It should be here in a couple of days but the reviews were all very good. good deal man. it will deliver the goods for you, just make sure you have good ventilation. Even though outside a still night can make the monoxide drift in strange ways. CO is really dangerous. They're a lot more of a risk than a tiny amount propane gas down current. A friend of mine almost died from CO poisoning. He didn't even realize it was happening. Good points y'all. I am so used to running my boats diesel to generate power that I did not even think of this (Diesels do not make CO) but I do not ever plan to use it at night or in confined space but thanx for the warning. |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:22:54 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Jun 22, 11:56*pm, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:48:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 22, 10:11 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On advice from ppl in this group, I paid the big bucks for a good generator and got a Yamaha 2000 watt for $989 from Amazon (yeah, I know a weird place to buy a generator). It should be here in a couple of days but the reviews were all very good. good deal man. it will deliver the goods for you, just make sure you have good ventilation. Even though outside a still night can make the monoxide drift in strange ways. CO is really dangerous. They're a lot more of a risk than a tiny amount propane gas down current. A friend of mine almost died from CO poisoning. He didn't even realize it was happening. Good points y'all. I am so used to running my boats diesel to generate power that I did not even think of this (Diesels do not make CO) but I do not ever plan to use it at night or in confined space but thanx for the warning. Actually, they do... I had to look it up. Seems to be only under load, so unless it's under a lot of load, you're ok. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust You might want to get a CO monitor. That was what saved my friend. His wife heard it and came to investigate. |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:07:37 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:36 -0700, wrote: Actually, they do... I had to look it up. Seems to be only under load, so unless it's under a lot of load, you're ok. If you want the last bit of power, you use excess fuel to insure that all the oxygen in the air is utilized. Since a Diesel ingests the same amount of air regardless of load, at a given RPM, at part power there is excess air, and all the fuel get burned. So only trace of CO. Casady Yes, that's what I read... just a trace. I don't know how many PPM are required to cause harm, but I'm betting zero is better than anything. |
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On 6/23/11 3:14 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:19:10 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:07:37 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:36 -0700, wrote: Actually, they do... I had to look it up. Seems to be only under load, so unless it's under a lot of load, you're ok. If you want the last bit of power, you use excess fuel to insure that all the oxygen in the air is utilized. Since a Diesel ingests the same amount of air regardless of load, at a given RPM, at part power there is excess air, and all the fuel get burned. So only trace of CO. Casady Yes, that's what I read... just a trace. I don't know how many PPM are required to cause harm, but I'm betting zero is better than anything. Black smoke from Diesel indicates incomplete combustion and if it is present, you can expect CO as well. Casady I don't run the diesel generator or the diesel engines on our boat unless everyone is awake and the cabin is open. I've got CO detectors placed appropriately. I also drop down in the bilge before using the boat to check oil, fittings, whatever I can see. CO scares the crap out of me. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 6/23/11 3:38 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 6/23/11 3:14 PM, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:19:10 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:07:37 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:36 -0700, wrote: Actually, they do... I had to look it up. Seems to be only under load, so unless it's under a lot of load, you're ok. If you want the last bit of power, you use excess fuel to insure that all the oxygen in the air is utilized. Since a Diesel ingests the same amount of air regardless of load, at a given RPM, at part power there is excess air, and all the fuel get burned. So only trace of CO. Casady Yes, that's what I read... just a trace. I don't know how many PPM are required to cause harm, but I'm betting zero is better than anything. Black smoke from Diesel indicates incomplete combustion and if it is present, you can expect CO as well. Casady I don't run the diesel generator or the diesel engines on our boat unless everyone is awake and the cabin is open. I've got CO detectors placed appropriately. I also drop down in the bilge before using the boat to check oil, fittings, whatever I can see. CO scares the crap out of me. I do have to be honest, even if I did own a boat, when have I ever been away from rec.boats long enough to actually use a boat ... and don't get me started about me having any time to use a motorcycle. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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Harryk wrote:
On 6/23/11 3:14 PM, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:19:10 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:07:37 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:36 -0700, wrote: Actually, they do... I had to look it up. Seems to be only under load, so unless it's under a lot of load, you're ok. If you want the last bit of power, you use excess fuel to insure that all the oxygen in the air is utilized. Since a Diesel ingests the same amount of air regardless of load, at a given RPM, at part power there is excess air, and all the fuel get burned. So only trace of CO. Casady Yes, that's what I read... just a trace. I don't know how many PPM are required to cause harm, but I'm betting zero is better than anything. Black smoke from Diesel indicates incomplete combustion and if it is present, you can expect CO as well. Casady I don't run the diesel generator or the diesel engines on our boat unless everyone is awake and the cabin is open. I've got CO detectors placed appropriately. I also drop down in the bilge before using the boat to check oil, fittings, whatever I can see. CO scares the crap out of me. Still running with that story, narcissist? |
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