riverman wrote:


Todays trivia question: who is right?

--riverman



The one who asks for a clear definition before he/she tries to tackle
that wave... grin

Ed

Todays trivia question: who is right?

--riverman

Depends if you're in the river or in the surf.

or Hawaii.

Geoff

riverman wrote:
Todays trivia question: who is right?

--riverman


Agreed!

I always have to remember to double the surf forecast (and then decrease
a bit for inaccuracy) before trying to get other boaters to go surfing :-)

JIM

riverman wrote:

I always enjoyed the discrepancy between sizing ocean waves and sizing river
waves. Ocean waves are assumed (fairly correctly) to be centered on the
local sea level, with a trough in front and a peak between the troughs. In a
4-foot ocean wave, there is a 4 foot deep trough in front, and a 4 foot high
peak on the wave, leaving an 8 foot wave face.

This is not the way they're forecast by NOAA. A 4' sea is 4' from trough to
peak. Either that, or their forecasts are wildly inflated.

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Regards

Brian

"Brian Nystrom" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

I always enjoyed the discrepancy between sizing ocean waves and sizing
river
waves. Ocean waves are assumed (fairly correctly) to be centered on the
local sea level, with a trough in front and a peak between the troughs.
In a
4-foot ocean wave, there is a 4 foot deep trough in front, and a 4 foot
high
peak on the wave, leaving an 8 foot wave face.

This is not the way they're forecast by NOAA. A 4' sea is 4' from trough
to
peak. Either that, or their forecasts are wildly inflated.

No, you're right. NOAA uses the same standard as river runners: trough to
peak. But surfers (specifically Hawaiin surfers) have their own formula, and
since a lot of the surfer terminology follows the fad, surfers worldwide
tend to follow the Hawaiian model. Which leads to a lot of non-surfers also
following the model, which leads to the confusion. Check out
http://surfing.about.com/library/weekly/aa042001.htm

--riverman

riverman wrote:

No, you're right. NOAA uses the same standard as river runners: trough to
peak. But surfers (specifically Hawaiin surfers) have their own formula, and
since a lot of the surfer terminology follows the fad, surfers worldwide
tend to follow the Hawaiian model. Which leads to a lot of non-surfers also
following the model, which leads to the confusion. Check out
http://surfing.about.com/library/weekly/aa042001.htm

Ah, that explains it, but that sure is a screwy way of measuring waves. As for
East Coasters doubling the wave height...it's BS.

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Regards

Brian