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Wayne B June 13th 11 10:58 PM

Buying a generator
 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:30:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I also like that suggestion. Frog could go with a 500w sine-wave
inverter and hook it up to a 12v battery. My dad did this and did some
pretty good work with a 3/4 hp Chraftsman grinder and little battery
discharge.


Yes, a small inverter works very well for occasional use of power
tools. I believe he wants it for an off grid cabin in Wyoming so he
could run the inverter from a car/truck battery as long as usage is
light or leaves the engine running while he works.


North Star June 13th 11 11:53 PM

Buying a generator
 
On Jun 13, 5:09*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:30*pm, Canuck57 wrote:





On 13/06/2011 10:49 AM, Harryk wrote:


On 6/13/11 11:18 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000
watts.
The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the
same and Honeywell at about $650 .
The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China.
I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for
emergency purposes.
The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese
ones........................?
So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when
chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in
purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work
long enough to be useful.?


1. You'll be surprised to find what what is and what is not "made in
China."


2. There are plenty of top-quality goods made in China. My objection to
Chinese goods is that they produced by workers under near slave labor
conditions.


3. As cheap as you are, you should round up a couple of furry critters
out there and put them on a generating treadmill. When they finish
working for you, you can eat them.


Na, tell us what you really mean. *If US ere like China, you woul dhave
to move your fat ass and go to work.


--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.


HK, the furry critters abandoned ship cuz I don't keep stuff for em to
eat.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My brother-in-law loaned me his Honda 1000 at the tail end of the week
we went without power after Hurricane Juan.
What a beauty... small, quiet, efficent.
During our last outage 1.5 years ago, the neighbour hooked me up to
his contractor type generator. Sure was glad he ran it out of his
shed. Noisy as heck.

Califbill June 14th 11 12:10 AM

Buying a generator
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000
watts.
The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the
same and Honeywell at about $650 .
The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China.
I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for
emergency purposes.
The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese
ones........................?
So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when
chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in
purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work
long enough to be useful.?

Reply:
Champion (CPS) from Costco, less than $500 and covered by Costco return
policy. 2KW


L G[_35_] June 14th 11 12:34 AM

Buying a generator
 
Frogwatch wrote:
I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000
watts.
The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the
same and Honeywell at about $650 .
The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China.
I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for
emergency purposes.
The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese
ones........................?
So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when
chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in
purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work
long enough to be useful.?


Try Craigslist or a pawn shop?

L G[_35_] June 14th 11 12:36 AM

Buying a generator
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 13, 12:11 pm, wrote:

On Jun 13, 11:42 am,
wrote:




In ,
says...


In article61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@
22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says...


I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000
watts.
The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the
same and Honeywell at about $650 .
The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China.
I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for
emergency purposes.
The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese
ones........................?
So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when
chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in
purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work
long enough to be useful.?


http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...No=22&blockNo=
97&blockType=G97


No good... These things are huge heavy, and huge loud. The one above is
a contractors generator and will probably not have a spark arrestor
either so it is dangerous around the woods and such.


Like I said, get the Honda, it's light, quiet, dependable...


--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

The 1000 watt Honda is $859 and the 2000 watt is $999 from Northern
Tool.

If I buy the Honda, it will have to be in the category of "Things my
wife does not know how much I spent".

Yep. Women don't usually know how much tools cost - like we don't know
that a purse costs. Get a 2K minimum. The 1K is pushing it for larger
tools.

BAR[_2_] June 14th 11 12:43 AM

Buying a generator
 
In article 61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@
22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says...

I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000
watts.
The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the
same and Honeywell at about $650 .
The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China.
I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for
emergency purposes.
The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese
ones........................?
So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when
chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in
purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work
long enough to be useful.?


Don't make the mistake of buying the smallest generator you can find.
Pretty soon you will find out that you want to run a couple of things on
the generator and you can't.

I_am_Tosk June 14th 11 12:59 AM

Buying a generator
 
In article ,
says...

In article 61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@
22g2000prx.googlegroups.com,
says...

I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000
watts.
The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the
same and Honeywell at about $650 .
The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China.
I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for
emergency purposes.
The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese
ones........................?
So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when
chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in
purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work
long enough to be useful.?


Don't make the mistake of buying the smallest generator you can find.
Pretty soon you will find out that you want to run a couple of things on
the generator and you can't.


I would definitely go for a 2000 if I could... The Honda is still pretty
light and transportable in the 2K model. You can still stick it in the
back seat of a small car if you need to.

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Wayne B June 14th 11 01:11 AM

Buying a generator
 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:43:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

Don't make the mistake of buying the smallest generator you can find.
Pretty soon you will find out that you want to run a couple of things on
the generator and you can't.


That's good advice but too large is a bad idea also. Ideally for the
type of light usage you describe, you'd like to be able to lift it in
and out of the back of a truck by yourself.

And then there's the inverter alternative that Tim mentioned, powered
by your car/truck battery for relatively short periods of time. The
price of inverters has come way down in the last year or two. I'd
vote for a sine wave model with lots of reserve capacity. Your tools
will be much happier on sine wave power and if you get one big enough,
your wife will be able to run her hair drier from it. Hint. :-)


Richard Casady June 14th 11 02:18 AM

Buying a generator
 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:11:44 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

Your tools
will be much happier on sine wave power and if you get one big enough,
your wife will be able to run her hair drier from it. Hint. :-)


Does an AC/DC motor care that much about the wave form?

Casady

Tim June 14th 11 02:44 AM

Buying a generator
 
On Jun 13, 4:58*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:30:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I also like that suggestion. *Frog could go with a 500w sine-wave
inverter and hook it up to a 12v battery. My dad did this and did some
pretty good work with a 3/4 hp Chraftsman grinder and little battery
discharge.


Yes, a small inverter works very well for occasional use of power
tools. *I believe he wants it for an off grid cabin in Wyoming so he
could run the inverter from a car/truck battery as long as usage is
light or leaves the engine running while he works. *


Nothing like having your cake and eating it too!


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