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Buying a generator
I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time
to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? |
Buying a generator
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says... In article 61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@ 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says... I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...No=22&blockNo= 97&blockType=G97 No good... These things are huge heavy, and huge loud. The one above is a contractors generator and will probably not have a spark arrestor either so it is dangerous around the woods and such. Like I said, get the Honda, it's light, quiet, dependable... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
Buying a generator
On Jun 13, 11:42*am, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... In article 61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@ 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says... I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. *This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. *The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? *Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...No=22&blockNo= 97&blockType=G97 No good... These things are huge heavy, and huge loud. The one above is a contractors generator and will probably not have a spark arrestor either so it is dangerous around the woods and such. Like I said, get the Honda, it's light, quiet, dependable... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! The 1000 watt Honda is $859 and the 2000 watt is $999 from Northern Tool. |
Buying a generator
On Jun 13, 12:11*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 13, 11:42*am, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... In article 61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@ 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says... I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. *This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. *The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? *Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...No=22&blockNo= 97&blockType=G97 No good... These things are huge heavy, and huge loud. The one above is a contractors generator and will probably not have a spark arrestor either so it is dangerous around the woods and such. Like I said, get the Honda, it's light, quiet, dependable... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! The 1000 watt Honda is $859 and the 2000 watt is $999 from Northern Tool. If I buy the Honda, it will have to be in the category of "Things my wife does not know how much I spent". |
Buying a generator
On 13/06/2011 9:18 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? I would buy the one that I thought might last the longest. Where it came from isn't really a big deal, as like HP printers, American name, foreign guts. More American content in many Toyota compared to many GM... Do what is best for YOU!!! That is what the unions and corrupt management do. As for Chinese, I have had both good and bad. Bought NA brand name weed eater for $175, it broke, just to find out the engine was Chinese. So I bought Korean for $50 on a clearance and it will not die. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
Buying a generator
On 6/13/11 11:18 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? 1. You'll be surprised to find what what is and what is not "made in China." 2. There are plenty of top-quality goods made in China. My objection to Chinese goods is that they produced by workers under near slave labor conditions. 3. As cheap as you are, you should round up a couple of furry critters out there and put them on a generating treadmill. When they finish working for you, you can eat them. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On Jun 13, 1:30*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/06/2011 10:49 AM, Harryk wrote: On 6/13/11 11:18 AM, Frogwatch wrote: I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? 1. You'll be surprised to find what what is and what is not "made in China." 2. There are plenty of top-quality goods made in China. My objection to Chinese goods is that they produced by workers under near slave labor conditions. 3. As cheap as you are, you should round up a couple of furry critters out there and put them on a generating treadmill. When they finish working for you, you can eat them. Na, tell us what you really mean. *If US ere like China, you woul dhave to move your fat ass and go to work. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. HK, the furry critters abandoned ship cuz I don't keep stuff for em to eat. |
Buying a generator
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:21:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: The 1000 watt Honda is $859 and the 2000 watt is $999 from Northern Tool. If I buy the Honda, it will have to be in the category of "Things my wife does not know how much I spent". I agree with the Honda recommendation. They are light weight, quiet and reliable. Honda uses a different technology than other small generators - the engine runs at variable speeds depending on load requirements. The output is DC (direct current) which then gets inverted back to 60 cycle AC output. As a result, frequency and voltage regulation are also much better than most others. |
Buying a generator
On Jun 13, 4:19*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:21:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: The 1000 watt Honda is $859 and the 2000 watt is $999 from Northern Tool. If I buy the Honda, it will have to be in the category of "Things my wife does not know how much I spent". I agree with the Honda recommendation. *They are light weight, quiet and reliable. * Honda uses a different technology than other small generators - the engine runs at variable speeds depending on load requirements. *The output is DC (direct current) which then gets inverted back to 60 cycle AC output. *As a result, frequency and voltage regulation are also much better than most others. I also like that suggestion. Frog could go with a 500w sine-wave inverter and hook it up to a 12v battery. My dad did this and did some pretty good work with a 3/4 hp Chraftsman grinder and little battery discharge. |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:30:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: I also like that suggestion. Frog could go with a 500w sine-wave inverter and hook it up to a 12v battery. My dad did this and did some pretty good work with a 3/4 hp Chraftsman grinder and little battery discharge. Yes, a small inverter works very well for occasional use of power tools. I believe he wants it for an off grid cabin in Wyoming so he could run the inverter from a car/truck battery as long as usage is light or leaves the engine running while he works. |
Buying a generator
On Jun 13, 5:09*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:30*pm, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/06/2011 10:49 AM, Harryk wrote: On 6/13/11 11:18 AM, Frogwatch wrote: I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? 1. You'll be surprised to find what what is and what is not "made in China." 2. There are plenty of top-quality goods made in China. My objection to Chinese goods is that they produced by workers under near slave labor conditions. 3. As cheap as you are, you should round up a couple of furry critters out there and put them on a generating treadmill. When they finish working for you, you can eat them. Na, tell us what you really mean. *If US ere like China, you woul dhave to move your fat ass and go to work. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. HK, the furry critters abandoned ship cuz I don't keep stuff for em to eat.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My brother-in-law loaned me his Honda 1000 at the tail end of the week we went without power after Hurricane Juan. What a beauty... small, quiet, efficent. During our last outage 1.5 years ago, the neighbour hooked me up to his contractor type generator. Sure was glad he ran it out of his shed. Noisy as heck. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? Reply: Champion (CPS) from Costco, less than $500 and covered by Costco return policy. 2KW |
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Frogwatch wrote:
I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? Try Craigslist or a pawn shop? |
Buying a generator
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 13, 12:11 pm, wrote: On Jun 13, 11:42 am, wrote: In , says... In article61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@ 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says... I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...No=22&blockNo= 97&blockType=G97 No good... These things are huge heavy, and huge loud. The one above is a contractors generator and will probably not have a spark arrestor either so it is dangerous around the woods and such. Like I said, get the Honda, it's light, quiet, dependable... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! The 1000 watt Honda is $859 and the 2000 watt is $999 from Northern Tool. If I buy the Honda, it will have to be in the category of "Things my wife does not know how much I spent". Yep. Women don't usually know how much tools cost - like we don't know that a purse costs. Get a 2K minimum. The 1K is pushing it for larger tools. |
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Buying a generator
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says... In article 61739c51-20c6-4c1b-8231-f1745e9eaf9d@ 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says... I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? Don't make the mistake of buying the smallest generator you can find. Pretty soon you will find out that you want to run a couple of things on the generator and you can't. I would definitely go for a 2000 if I could... The Honda is still pretty light and transportable in the 2K model. You can still stick it in the back seat of a small car if you need to. -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:43:05 -0400, BAR wrote:
Don't make the mistake of buying the smallest generator you can find. Pretty soon you will find out that you want to run a couple of things on the generator and you can't. That's good advice but too large is a bad idea also. Ideally for the type of light usage you describe, you'd like to be able to lift it in and out of the back of a truck by yourself. And then there's the inverter alternative that Tim mentioned, powered by your car/truck battery for relatively short periods of time. The price of inverters has come way down in the last year or two. I'd vote for a sine wave model with lots of reserve capacity. Your tools will be much happier on sine wave power and if you get one big enough, your wife will be able to run her hair drier from it. Hint. :-) |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:11:44 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: Your tools will be much happier on sine wave power and if you get one big enough, your wife will be able to run her hair drier from it. Hint. :-) Does an AC/DC motor care that much about the wave form? Casady |
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On Jun 13, 4:58*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:30:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I also like that suggestion. *Frog could go with a 500w sine-wave inverter and hook it up to a 12v battery. My dad did this and did some pretty good work with a 3/4 hp Chraftsman grinder and little battery discharge. Yes, a small inverter works very well for occasional use of power tools. *I believe he wants it for an off grid cabin in Wyoming so he could run the inverter from a car/truck battery as long as usage is light or leaves the engine running while he works. * Nothing like having your cake and eating it too! |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:18:29 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote: Your tools will be much happier on sine wave power and if you get one big enough, your wife will be able to run her hair drier from it. Hint. :-) Does an AC/DC motor care that much about the wave form? They sure do. I've owned several so called "modified sine wave" inverters in the past. Some tools refuse to start at all, others run sluggishly with reduced power and increased heat. Not related to motors, but we've had some appliances with digital controls that refused to operate at all on MSW inverters.. |
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On 6/13/11 4:09 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:30 pm, wrote: On 13/06/2011 10:49 AM, Harryk wrote: On 6/13/11 11:18 AM, Frogwatch wrote: I need to buy a small generator so i can run one power tool at a time to rebuild my cabin in Wyoming. This means I need less than 2000 watts. The higher cost models include Honda at over $800, Yamaha at about the same and Honeywell at about $650 . The cheaper models are less than $200 but are made in China. I expect to rarely use this generator and it would never be needed for emergency purposes. The Honeywell at $650 is almost reasonable. The cheap Chinese ones........................? So, should I follow my own advice and not buy chinese because when chinese goods break it always costs more money than the diff in purchase price? Or, should I buy Chinese and gamble that it will work long enough to be useful.? 1. You'll be surprised to find what what is and what is not "made in China." 2. There are plenty of top-quality goods made in China. My objection to Chinese goods is that they produced by workers under near slave labor conditions. 3. As cheap as you are, you should round up a couple of furry critters out there and put them on a generating treadmill. When they finish working for you, you can eat them. Na, tell us what you really mean. If US ere like China, you woul dhave to move your fat ass and go to work. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. HK, the furry critters abandoned ship cuz I don't keep stuff for em to eat. Well, you do have to make some provisions for critters if you expect them to work for you. Might require more than oatmeal and p.b. I had loaned my honda generator to a buddy for use at his cabin out at the shenandoah, but last year he paid the $500 for a power line drop to his cabin, so I have the genny back. Now he has power to run a well pump, heating and ac, and the other niceties of life. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:42:32 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: Yes, we've run laptops on just about every kind of cheap inverter and they all worked OK. Speaking of generators there is a single engine airplane with a pair of 300 Amp 28 Volt generators. Gear driven, no belts or chains to break. A third smaller unit is available when all else fails. Casady |
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On Jun 14, 12:36*pm, Richard Casady
wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:42:32 -0400, Wayne B wrote: Yes, we've run laptops on just about every kind of cheap inverter and they all worked OK. Speaking of generators there is a single engine airplane with a pair of 300 Amp 28 Volt generators. Gear driven, no belts or chains to break. A third smaller unit is available when all else fails. Casady Yamaha makes a nice 2000 watt generator for $989. Quite frankly, I feel stupid buying a generator because it implies I am a slave to electrical stuff. Neither my cabin nor boat needs a generator normally but power tools will make the renovation much faster. When I look at the logs on the cabin and realize it was built by two guys using only axes, I think "Gawd, I am such a wimp for using electricity". |
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