On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:10:25 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message news
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:16:42 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


Reply:
Actually not. More related to how closely tied to big government you are.
Tyson Foods donates lots of campaign money, along with ADM getting lots of
subsidies from government. Wall Street is an advisor to the government, so
they make the rules they need to rip of the rest of the people. Look at
Obama and the too big to fail banks. He and his advisors, that come from
those firms have made them bigger.

unfortunately the right winger forgot it was paulson and bush who
turned 80% of america's assets over

to

10

banks


Reply:
Was Clinton a GOP POTUS? He signed the bill, with glowing words also.
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/top..._crisis.htmlor

author of the bill

phil gramm and his enron VP wife




how'd that work out?

wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:52:27 -0400, L
wrote:


wf3h wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:03:54 -0400, L
wrote:


the last 30 years.

so why are they doing fine and the rest of us are headed for poverty?

answer: that's what the right wing wants for the US



It's actually related to education and work ethic - both that don't
come easy. I'll pay you to wash and wax my $60K cars if that helps.


gee. any proof of that beyond right wing bull****?

nope. social mobility in the US is worse than it is in sweden

but the right wing has their fairy tales...

why are you guys ALWAYS wrong?


It worked for me.

gee. a girl survived rabies the other day

guess that means rabies is 100% survivable, right?

is that how right wingers think?

WTF?

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:56:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/06/2011 6:58 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:03:54 -0400, L
wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:45:39 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
No the war on the middle class is the insane overspending by almost all the
Congress's for 50 years. And the inflation that it has caused. 1968, a
middle class family had an income of about $14k. Could buy a house and car
and decent vacation. 43 years later, that is 1/2 of poverty level. The
Contract with America was to allow those middle class to have the value of
the money they earned. Not having to keep sending more to Washington, D,C.
to pay for bloated government. One of the only places in the USA that has
not seen a housing bust is the DC area. Lots of money there.

funny the rich seem to be doing OK. they had a 500% pay increase in
the last 30 years.

so why are they doing fine and the rest of us are headed for poverty?

answer: that's what the right wing wants for the US

It's actually related to education and work ethic - both that don't
come easy. I'll pay you to wash and wax my $60K cars if that helps.

gee. any proof of that beyond right wing bull****?

nope. social mobility in the US is worse than it is in sweden

but the right wing has their fairy tales...

why are you guys ALWAYS wrong?

Funny, worked for me. Went from dirt poor to independent. So where did
you go wrong?

You went from dirt poor to trailer trash independent.

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:10:25 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message news
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:16:42 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


Reply:
Actually not. More related to how closely tied to big government you are.
Tyson Foods donates lots of campaign money, along with ADM getting lots of
subsidies from government. Wall Street is an advisor to the government,
so
they make the rules they need to rip of the rest of the people. Look at
Obama and the too big to fail banks. He and his advisors, that come from
those firms have made them bigger.

unfortunately the right winger forgot it was paulson and bush who
turned 80% of america's assets over

to

10

banks


Reply:
Was Clinton a GOP POTUS? He signed the bill, with glowing words also.
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/top..._crisis.htmlor

author of the bill

phil gramm and his enron VP wife




how'd that work out?



Reply:
How many Dem's voted for the bill? Who signed the bill? Can one
Congressman write and pass a bill?

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:08:53 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:10:25 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:16:42 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


Reply:
Actually not. More related to how closely tied to big government you
are.
Tyson Foods donates lots of campaign money, along with ADM getting lots
of
subsidies from government. Wall Street is an advisor to the government,
so
they make the rules they need to rip of the rest of the people. Look at
Obama and the too big to fail banks. He and his advisors, that come from
those firms have made them bigger.

unfortunately the right winger forgot it was paulson and bush who
turned 80% of america's assets over

to

10

banks


Reply:
Was Clinton a GOP POTUS? He signed the bill, with glowing words also.
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/top..._crisis.htmlor

author of the bill

phil gramm and his enron VP wife




how'd that work out?



Reply:
How many Dem's voted for the bill? Who signed the bill? Can one
Congressman write and pass a bill?

as part of a larger bill. over a thousand pages.

and yet gramm authored it. a love letter to wall street. courtesy of
the far right


Reply:
Why did the rest, including Dem's, vote for the bill?

Why did Clinton praise the bill?

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:12:08 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:56:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

why are you guys ALWAYS wrong?

Funny, worked for me. Went from dirt poor to independent. So where did
you go wrong?

You went from dirt poor to trailer trash independent.

which is pretty much how the right views the middle class

they want to bring back slavey

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:52:32 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...



how'd that work out?



Reply:
How many Dem's voted for the bill? Who signed the bill? Can one
Congressman write and pass a bill?

as part of a larger bill. over a thousand pages.

and yet gramm authored it. a love letter to wall street. courtesy of
the far right


Reply:
Why did the rest, including Dem's, vote for the bill?

Why did Clinton praise the bill?

now lets see...1000 pages

of which 200 were authored by the thief grammm and his wife

how many bills of a thousand pages get vetoed because of 200?

oh. almost none.

On 18/06/2011 4:56 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:58:27 -0400, wrote:


He has spent his entire life whining about what he hasn't been able to
achieve while everyone else had their head down working hard and earning
money and moving themselves upward on the social and economic scales.


what's funny is the right wing loonies pretend there's no depression
going on and that everything is OK

Depressions exist to get fleabaggers on board with reality. Vote
different, behave differently, less debt.... less pie in the sky worship
of false government promises.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

On 6/19/11 8:01 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 18/06/2011 4:56 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:58:27 -0400, wrote:


He has spent his entire life whining about what he hasn't been able to
achieve while everyone else had their head down working hard and earning
money and moving themselves upward on the social and economic scales.


what's funny is the right wing loonies pretend there's no depression
going on and that everything is OK

Depressions exist to get fleabaggers on board with reality. Vote
different, behave differently, less debt.... less pie in the sky worship
of false government promises.



Reality is, in the last Depression, Roosevelt was elected four times.
Republicans were not.


--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing

On 19/06/2011 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:56:34 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/06/2011 6:58 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:03:54 -0400, L
wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:45:39 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
No the war on the middle class is the insane overspending by almost all the
Congress's for 50 years. And the inflation that it has caused. 1968, a
middle class family had an income of about $14k. Could buy a house and car
and decent vacation. 43 years later, that is 1/2 of poverty level. The
Contract with America was to allow those middle class to have the value of
the money they earned. Not having to keep sending more to Washington, D,C.
to pay for bloated government. One of the only places in the USA that has
not seen a housing bust is the DC area. Lots of money there.

funny the rich seem to be doing OK. they had a 500% pay increase in
the last 30 years.

so why are they doing fine and the rest of us are headed for poverty?

answer: that's what the right wing wants for the US

It's actually related to education and work ethic - both that don't
come easy. I'll pay you to wash and wax my $60K cars if that helps.

gee. any proof of that beyond right wing bull****?

nope. social mobility in the US is worse than it is in sweden

but the right wing has their fairy tales...

why are you guys ALWAYS wrong?

Funny, worked for me. Went from dirt poor to independent. So where did
you go wrong?

You went from dirt poor to trailer trash independent.

Yep. Mom had 4 kids, no extra cash. Father was a delinquent turnip.
Not much money when 4 kids had to be clothed and fed. Second hand
clothes and all. So if we wanted something, we would deliver papers,
cut grass or whatever to make a buck, learned to earn a buck early.
Even put myself through college in the top 10 percentile. Wasn't a
trailer though, townhouse actually.

Now, I make more watching the stock dividends roll in. No need to work.

Yep, I had more excuses than most to be a loser but just chose not to be
one. Not arrogant enough to ignore observing rich and how they got
there. Not an entitlist waiting for government to do it. Nope, I just
decided to get off my ass, get a good attitude and go and get it for
myself. I chose not to be a whiner fleabagger.

Have a real good excuses too, but never used it. I am visually
impaired, diagnosed since grade 3. But didn't let that top me.

So for all your fleabagg'in whining could be redirected
constructively....wow....if excuses could be turned into money defumer,
wtf3, harryk and other losers....wow...you could have a PhD and career.

Now you know why I rent boats.

Keep on whining. Keep on thinking it is your fault. You just cause
your own issues.

So what is your impairment? Your brain?
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Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.