On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:15:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 6:29 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 07:53:12 -0400, wrote:
n.

"wall street"...


Who is/are "wall street" you blind idiot?

Wall Street is you and me and everyone else who believes in the
Americano dream. Not a game for the faint of heart though. Or people
who havn't elevated themselves enough to punctuate and capitalize
their screed.

more right wing myth

virtually no middle class americans get their income from wall steet.
that's a right wing myth

Funny, I was American middle class, so are many of my friends. 401K,
IRA, ROTH investments, only a fool would lend it to uncle Sam at 1% or
less interest rates. Better off to buy gold, silver, or even cow
futures in Canada.

gee. here in the US the right has destroyed pensions so the middle
class has NO retiremrent BUT 401k's....just the kind of ponzi scheme
to attack middle class income you right wingers like.


While the liberals and fleabaggers panicked, I bought stock.

keeps blaming the liberals even though the depression was caused by
right wing economic deregulation AND countries with strong
uinions...like CANADA...didnt get his as hard as the US did

his own country...where he moved...refutes his nonsense.


wall street sucked 10 TRILLION out of the economy and cost 5 million
jobs in the last 3 years

Going to suck more too, 9/10 stocks on the NYSE are over valued.

yep. america has drifted so far to the right there's no check on
corporate power. US uinon rates in the private sector are 7% vs 30% in
canada.

we have a right wing that is destroying our country. we have a
plutocracy. and you sit in canada, telling us how lucky we are to have
the rich, while in canada, the unions protect you.

ironic, aint it?


Can't run the economy on BS forever. But if a country is going so far
into debt like the USA is, at some point it will collapse under DEBT.

yep. as the US GINI coefficient SKYROCKETS to new records, and as more
and more of our weatlh goes to the richest 1%, our economy collapses

but tot he right that's great. it's the american dream


Why would I invest in USA right now? Pending higher taxes be they
civic, state, county or federal...a depreciating dollar... low
returns... hey, too much risk/return raio for me and others. So we left.

hey these are YOUR policies at work. you should be glad this is
happening. the rich in the US control more of our economy than they
ever have and we have people like YOU to thank for it!


Those liberal fleaggers invested in their style of "In Debt We Trust!"
got burned. Maybe you need to pick up some conservative 30's style
investment books and none of this Obama/Bernanke-feel good crap being
psuhed.

liberals dont run the US. it's 30 years of reagan supply side
economics that got us here

look at your handywork. happy?


the american dream is dead. that's a fact. social mobility is better
in SWEDEN than it is in america

While no dead yet, it is crippled and is dying. Too much freaking debt,
dysfunction over priced debt laden governance. It is now harder, but
you need to get your crap together now. No free house.

i notice you ignored the fact sweden has a lower GINI coefficient and
HIGHER social mobility than the US does.

no doubt you cant understand it because you think any place the rich
control as much of the economy as they do here, it's GOTTA be paradise


the reason the right LOVES this myth of the american dream is it
prevents them from having to address the fact the US is a plutocracy

Probably is, and fleabaggers voted for it in Obama.

ROFLMAO!! guess he thinks obama's been president since 1980!



so you have, in a sentence, defined how the right is destroying this
country

Liberalism destroyed it. I do not know of any truly
conservative-libertarian type suffering. Not a one. Liberals and
fleabaggers overloaded with the worship of DEBT, well, different story.

gee. how did it do this? he doesnt say

we've had 30 years of supply side economics. massive tax cuts for the
rich. destruction of unions

to him, that's liberalism!!

IOW he doesnt know a damn thing about the US except what he hears on
talk radio.

evidence? he's never pointed out a single piece of evidence in his
favor. he spouts cliches. and that's what the right does


Money is attracted to those that know how to manage it.

HAHAHAHAH guess that leaves out

WALL STREET!!!

HAHAHAHAAHAHAH

On 15/05/2011 4:40 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:15:47 -0600,
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 6:29 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 07:53:12 -0400, wrote:
n.

"wall street"...


Who is/are "wall street" you blind idiot?

Wall Street is you and me and everyone else who believes in the
Americano dream. Not a game for the faint of heart though. Or people
who havn't elevated themselves enough to punctuate and capitalize
their screed.

more right wing myth

virtually no middle class americans get their income from wall steet.
that's a right wing myth

Funny, I was American middle class, so are many of my friends. 401K,
IRA, ROTH investments, only a fool would lend it to uncle Sam at 1% or
less interest rates. Better off to buy gold, silver, or even cow
futures in Canada.

gee. here in the US the right has destroyed pensions so the middle
class has NO retiremrent BUT 401k's....just the kind of ponzi scheme
to attack middle class income you right wingers like.

Collectively as a nation, you did it to yourselves. Debt worshiping is
an evil disease. I say disease as withdrawal from debtors disease
carries many of the same symptoms of cocaine and heroin addiction. The
need for more debt becomes all consuming, past the point of rationality
into the irrationally insane.

Then eventually the debt bubble burst. Tehn band aided up with a
currency fraud, well, we will wait for that bubble to burst into
hyper-inflation which is coming.

While the liberals and fleabaggers panicked, I bought stock.

keeps blaming the liberals even though the depression was caused by
right wing economic deregulation AND countries with strong
uinions...like CANADA...didnt get his as hard as the US did

his own country...where he moved...refutes his nonsense.

Funny, it was:

Liberal deficits
Liberal debts
Liberals not paying the bills
Liberal debt welshing
Liberal ponzi schemes
Liberal loaning to those who could not pay
Liberal taxation
liberal bamboozling
Liberal fraud
Liberal bailouts
Liberal corruption
Liberal irrationality and denial...

That caused this depression.

wall street sucked 10 TRILLION out of the economy and cost 5 million
jobs in the last 3 years

Going to suck more too, 9/10 stocks on the NYSE are over valued.

yep. america has drifted so far to the right there's no check on
corporate power. US uinon rates in the private sector are 7% vs 30% in
canada.

Unions in Canada are quietly busted at the moment. Try a strike and a
lockout happens. One place on strike nearly two years just settled,
same rates as before. 2 years of unemployment and accumulation of debt,
some homes lost and no increase. Dumb union idiots.

we have a right wing that is destroying our country. we have a
plutocracy. and you sit in canada, telling us how lucky we are to have
the rich, while in canada, the unions protect you.

Lefties so pooched your economy, I doubt you or I will outlive the debt
damages of the government even if they started to fix it today.

In fact, i think government knows this. At some point the US Fed is
going to announce that its biggest creditor is bankrupt. We might very
well see this inside of 2-3 years.

And when that happens, your wages will on a valuation basis be par with
India, China, Brazil - overnight.

India had too much USD, so they bought something like 100 tons of gold.
Are they laughing now or what, as that was back at $1000/ounce.

Can't run the economy on BS forever. But if a country is going so far
into debt like the USA is, at some point it will collapse under DEBT.

yep. as the US GINI coefficient SKYROCKETS to new records, and as more
and more of our weatlh goes to the richest 1%, our economy collapses

but tot he right that's great. it's the american dream

Screw the GINI index, will not help you where the US is going. You keep
voting for he same old debt-spend crap...see Einstein.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results.
-- Albert Einstein

Applies to voters too. Including Obama voters.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

On Sun, 15 May 2011 22:36:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 4:40 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:15:47 -0600,
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 6:29 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 07:53:12 -0400, wrote:
n.
Funny, I was American middle class, so are many of my friends. 401K,
IRA, ROTH investments, only a fool would lend it to uncle Sam at 1% or
less interest rates. Better off to buy gold, silver, or even cow
futures in Canada.

gee. here in the US the right has destroyed pensions so the middle
class has NO retiremrent BUT 401k's....just the kind of ponzi scheme
to attack middle class income you right wingers like.

Collectively as a nation, you did it to yourselves

yep. america is the most right wing nation in the west which is why
we're dying


While the liberals and fleabaggers panicked, I bought stock.

keeps blaming the liberals even though the depression was caused by
right wing economic deregulation AND countries with strong
uinions...like CANADA...didnt get his as hard as the US did

his own country...where he moved...refutes his nonsense.

Funny, it was:

Liberal deficits

biggest spenders in history: the GOP

Liberal debts

see above

Liberals not paying the bills

see above. biggest deficits in US history: caused by bush's war and
bush's tax cuts

but he has his mythology. no facts...just cliches

Liberal debt welshing
Liberal ponzi schemes
Liberal loaning to those who could not pay
Liberal taxation
liberal bamboozling
Liberal fraud
Liberal bailouts
Liberal corruption
Liberal irrationality and denial...

That caused this depression.

gee. how? care to tell us? specifics??

oh. you hav none. because I DO HAVE SPECIFICS

FACT: BUSH's last budget was a TRILLION in the red

FACT" BUSH SPENT a TRILLION In iraq

FACT: BUSH'S TAX CUTS account for the LARGEST factor in the deficit

see? i'm an adult. i have FACTS

you have myth


wall street sucked 10 TRILLION out of the economy and cost 5 million
jobs in the last 3 years

Going to suck more too, 9/10 stocks on the NYSE are over valued.

yep. america has drifted so far to the right there's no check on
corporate power. US uinon rates in the private sector are 7% vs 30% in
canada.

Unions in Canada are quietly busted at the moment. Try a strike and a
lockout happens. One place on strike nearly two years just settled,
same rates as before. 2 years of unemployment and accumulation of debt,
some homes lost and no increase. Dumb union idiots.

let's see

canadian unemployment: 7.6%

US: 9%

gee. you guys have it tough with all those union jobs.

and how much did the unions take out of the economy in the last 3
years? zero

wall street? TEN TRILLION.

but the right thinks that's fine.


we have a right wing that is destroying our country. we have a
plutocracy. and you sit in canada, telling us how lucky we are to have
the rich, while in canada, the unions protect you.

Lefties so pooched your economy, I doubt you or I will outlive the debt
damages of the government even if they started to fix it today.

and how did they do this?

oh. he doesnt know. he cant tell us. he just hears it on right wing
talk radio

the fact that CDS's expanded by a factor of over 100 in 10 years?

he ignores that

the fact the financial sector DOUBLED as a percentage of the US
economy in 10 years?

he ignores that.

the fact it added NOTHING to our economy?

he ignores that

no wonder he's right wing. if you ignore the evidence, then there's no
evidence that the right hurt the economy at all!!

very simple!


Can't run the economy on BS forever. But if a country is going so far
into debt like the USA is, at some point it will collapse under DEBT.

yep. as the US GINI coefficient SKYROCKETS to new records, and as more
and more of our weatlh goes to the richest 1%, our economy collapses

but tot he right that's great. it's the american dream

Screw the GINI index, will not help you where the US is going.

HAHAAHAH dont confuse me with the evidence, i've made up my mind!!

the mantra of the right