Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql


Indeed, we have to be on the alert for "reaql..."


Hey, we know you're a bat**** crazy rightie, and you just can't live
with the fact that the black guy with the funny name was elected
president over your tired-out old fart McCain and his ditzy sidekick.

Too bad.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 22/04/2011 3:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

No doubt about it...DC counterfeits far too much money....so money has a
lower value.

So people have to pay more. Heck, my gold still buys the same amount of
oil, hazards of investing in the US and USD is that it will depreciate.
A vicious spiral has already really started.

I am curious, does USA have a trade adreement re-taxtion with Panama?
Might snag up a few cheap condos Americans need to sell cheap.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for
100% inflation.

It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free
because some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more
valueless money diluting the money stock did you?

Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine because you
have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are "rich" and
some of you are poor.

$400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in oil stocks
this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you should see
my precious metals...like I hit gold!

Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off the brain
fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as the USD
does not buy as much as it used to.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 4/22/2011 7:04 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg
SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and
infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for
100% inflation.

It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free because
some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more valueless
money diluting the money stock did you?

Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine because you
have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are "rich" and
some of you are poor.

$400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in oil stocks
this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you should see
my precious metals...like I hit gold!

Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off the brain
fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as the USD
does not buy as much as it used to.
What's your problem. Printing worthles fiat is not the direct link to
this latest episode.
Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America regardless of
or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with Wall
Street on many issues.
The rule in DC is who has the most money rules. It doesn't matter if you
are Communist or Corporatist. China is Marxist but is a favored
capitalist.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 4/22/2011 6:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 3:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

No doubt about it...DC counterfeits far too much money....so money has a
lower value.

So people have to pay more. Heck, my gold still buys the same amount of
oil, hazards of investing in the US and USD is that it will depreciate.
A vicious spiral has already really started.

I am curious, does USA have a trade adreement re-taxtion with Panama?
Might snag up a few cheap condos Americans need to sell cheap.

Pie dreaming.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 6:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 3:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

No doubt about it...DC counterfeits far too much money....so money has a
lower value.

So people have to pay more. Heck, my gold still buys the same amount of
oil, hazards of investing in the US and USD is that it will depreciate.
A vicious spiral has already really started.

I am curious, does USA have a trade adreement re-taxtion with Panama?
Might snag up a few cheap condos Americans need to sell cheap.

Pie dreaming.

Not to worry; Canuck will move to Panama and get himself kidnapped for
ransom, which no one will pay.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Apr 22, 4:31*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. *It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. *However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:33:15 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:

On 4/22/2011 7:04 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg
SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and
infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for
100% inflation.

It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free because
some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more valueless
money diluting the money stock did you?

Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine because you
have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are "rich" and
some of you are poor.

$400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in oil stocks
this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you should see
my precious metals...like I hit gold!

Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off the brain
fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as the USD
does not buy as much as it used to.
What's your problem. Printing worthles fiat is not the direct link to
this latest episode.
Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America regardless of
or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with Wall
Street on many issues.
The rule in DC is who has the most money rules. It doesn't matter if you
are Communist or Corporatist. China is Marxist but is a favored
capitalist.

Wow... two morons arguing with each other about the price of tin foil
hats.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much


A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Oil companies are going to be reporting record profits again.

Hey, if making gasoline has such a low R.O.I., let's buy the refineries
in the name of the taxpayers and produce gasoline at prices that are at
breakeven plus a 10% setaside. That'll lower the pump price of gasoline
by what, $2.00 a gallon?

Even smarter, let's not allow the Repubs in Congress to cut the funds
for alternative energy development, as they want to do, in order to
continue the payoff to their oil company buddies.

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:58:28 -0400, Lil Abner sent the
following message
On 4/22/2011 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:33:15 -0400, Lil
wrote:

On 4/22/2011 7:04 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS
the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is
blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means
is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the
Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the
regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with
huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force
electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our
personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right
around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid
of 8mpg
SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green
wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless
they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and
luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or
six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100
degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their
agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the
foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would
hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a
bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00
for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and
infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want
to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the
money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money
stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as
much for
100% inflation.

It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was
free because
some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more
valueless
money diluting the money stock did you?

Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine
because you
have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are
"rich" and
some of you are poor.

$400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in
oil stocks
this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you
should see
my precious metals...like I hit gold!

Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by
value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you
Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off
the brain
fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as
the USD
does not buy as much as it used to.
What's your problem. Printing worthles fiat is not the direct
link to
this latest episode.
Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America
regardless of
or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with
Wall
Street on many issues.
The rule in DC is who has the most money rules. It doesn't
matter if you
are Communist or Corporatist. China is Marxist but is a favored
capitalist.

Wow... two morons arguing with each other about the price of tin
foil
hats.
I don't like bull s-----. I like fools even less. Stick it.
plonk

Thank you

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

Refining is a dirty, capital intensive business. If you believe there
is so much filthy lucre waiting to be made, you should form a
consortium and go buy or build one. It's a great American tradition
and it creates jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filthy_Luc_Economics_for_People_Who_Hate_Capita lism

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.
It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.


The world is awash in oil at the moment. We're all being raped by the
oil companies. The only thing left for them to do is merge with the
health insurance companies. :)

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:00:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. *It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. *However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much

Let's not try to confuse them with the facts. They won't appreciate
it, and they're confused enough already.

One thing is for sure however - $4 gas really stings when you're
filling up a runabout or pickup truck. Apparently Amex has a $85
limit on card purchases at the pump. I got cut off the other night a
few gallons short of a full tank. Learn something new every day.
:-)

The local Sunoco station cut me off at $75. I'm pretty sure it was the station. That's only happened
once before, and the proprietor said it was their policy.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:00:47 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much
Let's not try to confuse them with the facts. They won't appreciate
it, and they're confused enough already.

One thing is for sure however - $4 gas really stings when you're
filling up a runabout or pickup truck. Apparently Amex has a $85
limit on card purchases at the pump. I got cut off the other night a
few gallons short of a full tank. Learn something new every day.
:-)

The local Sunoco station cut me off at $75. I'm pretty sure it was the station. That's only happened
once before, and the proprietor said it was their policy.


The only salvation around here is that Giant Food has a promo with Shell
Gas...for every $100 you spend at Giant, you get 10 cents off the pump
price at Shell, and as far as I can tell, there's no limit to how much
of a discount you can accumulate. Last week, I filled up one of our
vehicles, got 90 cents off per gallon, and saved about $20.

I also got a $50 gas card from Amex for test-driving a new BMW up in
Annapolis. Also a Shell promotion.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

In article ,
says...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much


A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Oil companies are going to be reporting record profits again.

Hey, if making gasoline has such a low R.O.I., let's buy the refineries
in the name of the taxpayers and produce gasoline at prices that are at
breakeven plus a 10% setaside. That'll lower the pump price of gasoline
by what, $2.00 a gallon?

Even smarter, let's not allow the Repubs in Congress to cut the funds
for alternative energy development, as they want to do, in order to
continue the payoff to their oil company buddies.

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

Harry, if it IS the fault of corporations and speculators, why don't you
buy a large amount of gas and sell it for, say, $2.00 per gallon?

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql


Indeed, we have to be on the alert for "reaql..."


Hey, we know you're a bat**** crazy rightie, and you just can't live
with the fact that the black guy with the funny name was elected
president over your tired-out old fart McCain and his ditzy sidekick.

Too bad.

Didn't take Harry long to throw up the race card!!!

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead in fuel. Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead in fuel. Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.



The current price increases have nothing to do with that.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:49:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead in fuel. Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.



The current price increases have nothing to do with that.

No but it has everything to do with why fuel is more expensive here
than in many other nearby countries. Go to Europe if you want a real
sticker shock. Last September diesel and gasoline was over $9
USD/gal in France, Switzerland and Italy. I'm sure it is even higher
now.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:58:28 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:

On 4/22/2011 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:33:15 -0400, Lil wrote:

On 4/22/2011 7:04 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg
SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and
infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for
100% inflation.

It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free because
some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more valueless
money diluting the money stock did you?

Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine because you
have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are "rich" and
some of you are poor.

$400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in oil stocks
this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you should see
my precious metals...like I hit gold!

Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off the brain
fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as the USD
does not buy as much as it used to.
What's your problem. Printing worthles fiat is not the direct link to
this latest episode.
Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America regardless of
or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with Wall
Street on many issues.
The rule in DC is who has the most money rules. It doesn't matter if you
are Communist or Corporatist. China is Marxist but is a favored
capitalist.

Wow... two morons arguing with each other about the price of tin foil
hats.
I don't like bull s-----. I like fools even less. Stick it.
plonk

Yet you keep dishing it out. Apparently, you just can't take it.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 22/04/2011 3:46 PM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql


Indeed, we have to be on the alert for "reaql..."


Hey, we know you're a bat**** crazy rightie, and you just can't live
with the fact that the black guy with the funny name was elected
president over your tired-out old fart McCain and his ditzy sidekick.

Too bad.

So does that mean you will not go boating this year as you can't afford
the gas? LMAO.

As for your fetish with race, is that the cause, the reason or an excuse?
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 22/04/2011 5:33 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 7:04 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg
SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and
infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for
100% inflation.

It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free because
some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more valueless
money diluting the money stock did you?

Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine because you
have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are "rich" and
some of you are poor.

$400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in oil stocks
this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you should see
my precious metals...like I hit gold!

Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off the brain
fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as the USD
does not buy as much as it used to.
What's your problem. Printing worthles fiat is not the direct link to
this latest episode.
Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America regardless of
or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with Wall
Street on many issues.
The rule in DC is who has the most money rules. It doesn't matter if you
are Communist or Corporatist. China is Marxist but is a favored capitalist.

Nope, DC is about statism. Keep government getting ever bigger. That
is why they brainwash kids in elementary. big government is good
government. Sad really.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 22/04/2011 5:46 PM, Harryk wrote:
Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 6:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/04/2011 3:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

No doubt about it...DC counterfeits far too much money....so money has a
lower value.

So people have to pay more. Heck, my gold still buys the same amount of
oil, hazards of investing in the US and USD is that it will depreciate.
A vicious spiral has already really started.

I am curious, does USA have a trade adreement re-taxtion with Panama?
Might snag up a few cheap condos Americans need to sell cheap.

Pie dreaming.

Not to worry; Canuck will move to Panama and get himself kidnapped for
ransom, which no one will pay.

Hahahha... Could get kidnapped in USA too. Trouble is with you
fleabaggers is you are scared of your own shadows. Partially correct
too, as you are your own worst enemies.

Have a choice, investor visa or pensionado. Being a pensioner I like as
a tax free car every two years and some other perks. But the fast track
is the investor one.

Hey, don't let life hold you back. /snicker.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 22/04/2011 9:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much

Let's not try to confuse them with the facts. They won't appreciate
it, and they're confused enough already.

One thing is for sure however - $4 gas really stings when you're
filling up a runabout or pickup truck. Apparently Amex has a $85
limit on card purchases at the pump. I got cut off the other night a
few gallons short of a full tank. Learn something new every day.
:-)

I have the advantages of being a teen in the early 70's and well groomed
on money as our family was poor...want a bike, deliver papers and save
because we couldn't get a credit/debit card...

Taught me money is a depreciaing asset too, saw a house bought for $13K
and sold 11 years later for $49K....inflation. Was the same house with
11 years of wear, go figure.

Same crap is happening today for the same reasons, government is making
too much no-value money and diluting the currency. All for
statism-ponzi-debt spend.

Simple as ABC. So if you don't like real-estate unless it is primary
residence, so I buy oil, gold, and other commodities to hedge inflation.

Ya, they are doing this in Canada too, $100 limit per fill. What a PIA
as I have a F150.... Cost isn't a big deal, a litre (about a quart)
goes up 10 cents, my stocks probably went up $20k more more. And
eventually as inflation bites, the dividends will go up too.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Besides, I would not invest and here is why.

I and many other buddies say pool $10 billion to build it. So once
built, it costs $14 billion, $4 billion more than was priced in. Union
crap, bad estimates, greedy management - maybe some mafia.

Then you start processing oil. Next the city, county, state and feds
get all horny with taxes. The plant depreciates and you still haven't
seen a return on investment. Unions, bad manage screw you over like a
pig for an Hawaiian roast. Bankser that covered the capital short fall
start turning the screws, and you can't sell your diluted stock without
a write down. To add insult, Obama printed so much debt that relative
to the oil itself and gold, you are lucky to get 50 cents for the dollar in.

And that is the bright side, as Obama might try to dictate you sell the
motion potion for below cost. Then you might b worth 10 cents on the
dollar on a good day.

Or, you can go to anotehr country and refine it, be able to ship
anywhere in the world and you can but bad management, bust unions and
whatever it takes to get a proper 15% return on investment.

Or if you don't want to go international and are risk adverse, just buy
an oilfield or gold and wait.

So why invest in a hyper-inflationary anti-business USA again?

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 6:44 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

I think that is the "Hope" part. It is always followed by the
"Disappointment" part.

Refining is a dirty, capital intensive business. If you believe there
is so much filthy lucre waiting to be made, you should form a
consortium and go buy or build one. It's a great American tradition
and it creates jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filthy_Luc_Economics_for_People_Who_Hate_Capita lism

No one in the USA wants jobs, they just want money. And think Obama can
print it forever.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 6:53 AM, Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Well Harry, you have choices. Invest in one, pay up or walk. Choice is
yours. You do have money to invest right? Oh wait, on welfare...got it.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 6:57 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.

Good point. human body needs at least a litre of bottled water per
mile. At $3 (unless you try to carry it all) for 20 miles....gas is cheap.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 7:00 AM, Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing
that the
world exists for corporations.
It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.


The world is awash in oil at the moment. We're all being raped by the
oil companies. The only thing left for them to do is merge with the
health insurance companies. :)

But I thought you had Obamacare..../snicker.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 6:56 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:44:53 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


It has little to do with government doing a better job than private
industry... it has a lot more to do with greed. Over the last 30
years, the oil companies have steadily decreased the number of
refineries and their profits have, therefore, soared.....

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

You are right in this, as Dated Brent seems to be $12/barrel more than
the US. Could be the Saudi are shipping cheap to the US for the 5th
Fleet support?

No reason the world pays $124/barrel and the US pays $112.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 11:55 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:49:20 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead in fuel. Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.



The current price increases have nothing to do with that.

No but it has everything to do with why fuel is more expensive here
than in many other nearby countries. Go to Europe if you want a real
sticker shock. Last September diesel and gasoline was over $9
USD/gal in France, Switzerland and Italy. I'm sure it is even higher
now.

Governments love those taxes. Higher the price, more taxes. That is
why governments will not do what it takes. In fact, US DC Fed
deliberately dilutes the currency so you pay more taxes.

Now of course Obama will pull out his soap box, but as the saying goes,
don't watch how the lips move, watch the walk. And while Obama says he
does not like it, government is hiding it's smirk as the case revenues
for gas are up.

All the world is a stage. And fleabaggers are gullible for this nonsense.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 7:18 AM, A_boaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much


A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Oil companies are going to be reporting record profits again.

Hey, if making gasoline has such a low R.O.I., let's buy the refineries
in the name of the taxpayers and produce gasoline at prices that are at
breakeven plus a 10% setaside. That'll lower the pump price of gasoline
by what, $2.00 a gallon?

Even smarter, let's not allow the Repubs in Congress to cut the funds
for alternative energy development, as they want to do, in order to
continue the payoff to their oil company buddies.

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

Harry, if it IS the fault of corporations and speculators, why don't you
buy a large amount of gas and sell it for, say, $2.00 per gallon?

Because Harry be full of sh-t. A fleabagger blow hard -- sheeples of
Obama type.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 7:00 AM, Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing
that the
world exists for corporations.
It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in
the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.


The world is awash in oil at the moment. We're all being raped by the
oil companies. The only thing left for them to do is merge with the
health insurance companies. :)

But I thought you had Obamacare..../snicker.


Once more, **** for brains, I have private insurance I pay for, not
Medicare. I suspect my weekly earnings are significantly higher than
your monthly income, and probably higher than your monthly income ever
was. I'd further guess that I pay more in federal income tax each year
than you earn. And that's without adding in my wife's income, which, I
am sure, is also much higher than yours ever was.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Uh, only in your dreams, po' boy.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On 23/04/2011 1:27 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Uh, only in your dreams, po' boy.

Well, if you had some money to invest you wouldn't be gripping so much.

I rest my case fleabagger.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Why gas is $5.00/gal
 

On Apr 23, 12:55*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:49:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote:









Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
*wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. * It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead *in fuel. * Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.

The current price increases have nothing to do with that.

No but it has everything to do with why fuel is more expensive here
than in many other nearby countries. * Go to Europe if you want a real
sticker shock. * Last September diesel and gasoline was over $9
USD/gal in France, Switzerland and Italy. *I'm sure it is even higher
now.

Wayne now this probably isn't really related to your comment but in
europe it seems that because of highway (robbery) fuel prices, bicycle
and small motorcycle seems to be a popular means of individual
transportation

and though the Swiss have had a love/hate relationship with them,
they've been pushing for micro electric commuter cars for years. Now
they're pushing to put more electrics on the road

http://www.green-car-guide.com/artic...structure.html