On 4/20/2011 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
*In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...*

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



*The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.*

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


More evidence that Krause is a fripping idiot.

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.
What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.

So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....



As an intelligent, educated individual, Snotty, I read lots of properly
researched documents pertaining to the issues of the day. One of these
issues is commodity speculation. The Europeans, among others, have been
discussing the issue for some time, and those discussions include
possible ways to curtail petrol speculation.

I have no specific knowledge about how to "fix" the problems caused by
petrol speculation, but others with the right sort of expertise are "on"
it, eh? At some point, various positions will be put forward and
discussed, agreements may be reached, and the beginnings of solutions
may be implemented.

That's how things get done in the adult, civilized world. It takes more
to solve complicated problems than your usual series of grunts and
headlines from Fox News. And it isn't isn't necessary for an individual
to make himself or herself an "expert" on every subject.

Now, you probably should return to your usual stupor.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.
What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.

So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....



As an intelligent, educated individual, Snotty, I read lots of properly
researched documents pertaining to the issues of the day. One of these
issues is commodity speculation. The Europeans, among others, have been
discussing the issue for some time, and those discussions include
possible ways to curtail petrol speculation.

I have no specific knowledge about how to "fix" the problems caused by
petrol speculation, but others with the right sort of expertise are "on"
it, eh? At some point, various positions will be put forward and
discussed, agreements may be reached, and the beginnings of solutions
may be implemented.

That's how things get done in the adult, civilized world. It takes more
to solve complicated problems than your usual series of grunts and
headlines from Fox News. And it isn't isn't necessary for an individual
to make himself or herself an "expert" on every subject.

Now, you probably should return to your usual stupor.

And you to being led around by the nose by the DNC... You can't see out
of your own back yard much less make an informed observation on
business... In other words, you have no solutions, just talking points.
Maybe you should go back to see if you can get that GED...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea5GdnYGmyKvQRTPQnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.
What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?

If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.
So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....


As an intelligent, educated individual, Snotty, I read lots of properly
researched documents pertaining to the issues of the day. One of these
issues is commodity speculation. The Europeans, among others, have been
discussing the issue for some time, and those discussions include
possible ways to curtail petrol speculation.

I have no specific knowledge about how to "fix" the problems caused by
petrol speculation, but others with the right sort of expertise are "on"
it, eh? At some point, various positions will be put forward and
discussed, agreements may be reached, and the beginnings of solutions
may be implemented.

That's how things get done in the adult, civilized world. It takes more
to solve complicated problems than your usual series of grunts and
headlines from Fox News. And it isn't isn't necessary for an individual
to make himself or herself an "expert" on every subject.

Now, you probably should return to your usual stupor.

And you to being led around by the nose by the DNC... You can't see out
of your own back yard much less make an informed observation on
business... In other words, you have no solutions, just talking points.
Maybe you should go back to see if you can get that GED...



Obviously, you don't have the ability to understand what you read. I was
discussing what the European common market countries were doing in terms
of commodity speculation and possible ways to curtail it. That has
nothing to do with the DNC.

The other day you made another of your idiotic comments, regarding one
of Obama's two supreme court nominees.

It's not up to me to decide how to curtail commodity speculation, bozo.
All you are accomplishing here is proving that you really are an
uneducated, unknowing automaton of the really stupid right, a teahadist
birther. You're being used, little man, and you're not even aware of it.

On 19/04/2011 12:41 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 4/19/2011 1:26 PM, Despot wrote:
On 4/19/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

"Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.

$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.

I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.

Thanks, Dubya."

-- Harry Krause, rec.boats, May 22 2004, 7:25 am



So I guess the moral of the story is that HK is also a "simple-minded
little troll", and part "of the "fear-mongered" masses."

Understanding what you read is not your forté, eh?

I never said that Bush was responsible for the increase. I just pointed
out that "regular grade" gasoline prices went up when Bush was in office.

Under the current administration they've gone up only 30% in three
years, or about 10% a year since he assumed office.

Thanks, Obama

Haven't gone up that much here.

But then Canadian currency isn't being as actively depreciated as is the
USD. All this Obama-DC debt is quite literally now being passed on to
people as inflation.

Last weeks efforts by congress told the world that Washington DC is a
delinquent debtor printing money out of control. The effort was far too
little, far too late and a joke really.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 20/04/2011 5:36 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?

BS. Truth is Saudi are maxed out with declining reserves, to expand the
reserves means drilling more expensive and deeper wells than before.
Well managed low debt economies like China, India and Brazil are doing
well...

Just BS to try to get the markets to cool off isn't going to work. As
it ignores two huge facts. First is supply is tight and second the USD
is loosing value.

Prices will go up relative to the USD. But relative to gold, silver,
copper, lithium, flour -- oil is the same price.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 20/04/2011 5:47 AM, Harryk wrote:
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

THey you should speculate and buy some....oh wait, you are on social
assistance. Maybe you should ask Obama to pay that in gold or oil?
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 20/04/2011 6:22 AM, Harryk wrote:
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are
determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in
jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied.
The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.

Funny. I ws born on the poor side of the tracks. 4 kids, single mom,
no money. Put myself through school, no loans... now self made.

But then, I didn't spend my time whining and complaining, I spent it
educating myself and working hard/smart.

Now whiners like you are just envious slugs a still whining. Whine on,
it is what you do best. But pay up or walk.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 20/04/2011 6:32 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.

So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....

There is, invest in oil. So as oil goes up, so does the stock and them
juicy dividends.

People need to stop thinking of currency as having some immutable value.
Currency is just like a stock in every respect. Government prints too
much, it dilutes in value. Government ponzi tax fraud really. And you
can't protect your wealth without realizing it.

Once diluted, people want more of it to compensate for their needs.

Fleabaggers cannot change this. So they just print more money to make
it worse.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 20/04/2011 6:38 AM, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 4/20/2011 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
*In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...*

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are
determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in
jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied.
The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



*The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.*

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


More evidence that Krause is a fripping idiot.

No argument there. Bet he wishes he bought COP at under $50. Oh wait,
he is a broke in debt type.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.