On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:05:31 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


admits it fell far from the mark and is full of holes.

Eisboch


With all the voting blocs the GOP has offended and is continuing to
offend, I suspect Obama will be re-elected, and it is possible the GOP
will lose the House. To many, it looks as if the GOP only cares about
putting more money in the pockets of the very wealthy. Add to that all
the crazies on that side of the aisle, plus the damage the governors are
doing...

Still, the Dems are the recognized experts at converting potential
victory into defeat. :)

unfortunately i think ALOT Of the american public still harbors the
idea that, if you work hard you'll get rich. this is PROvABLY false
since even sweden has greater social mobility than we have. but that
wont stop americans for voting for the rich.

On Apr 15, 10:36*pm, bob wrote:
is ANYONE defending this bill on the right? haven't seen anyone out of
congress defending this attempt by the GOP to continue shifting middle
class assets to the rich.

even our rabid right wingers here aren't frothing at the mouth telling
us about the communists over 65 who deserve to die so the wealthy can
have another billion

By the time the right, and left are finished argueing stupidly about
it, it'll be too late. Oh wait, it ALREADY IS.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:13:37 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Nobody in the GOP has told seniors they have to die so Wall Street can
buy more yachts.. You are making up stuff to further your agenda.

I find it an exercise in futility to discuss anything with people like
yourself.
You have a well proven track record as being as daffy to the left as
Michele Buchmann is to the right.

Eisboch

Oh, ohhhh. You must be a racist!

to a right winger, cliches take the place of evidence

he's unable to do a coherent analysis of paul ryan's war against
seniors and the middle class, so punts until he gets the party line
from glen and rush

Unfortunately, what you call "evidence" is nothing more than "Lobsta'
boats and German screwdrivers"..

fine. then rebut it. give me your evidence

where is it? where's your evidence that seniors will NOT be penalized?
where is you evidence that the rich WONT have their taxes cut?

you right wingers...this is exactly what you do. you bull**** your way
through life carrying all the other bull****ters with you.

and you're burying the country in your bull****

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:44:55 -0700 (PDT), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Apr 15, 10:36*pm, bob wrote:
is ANYONE defending this bill on the right? haven't seen anyone out of
congress defending this attempt by the GOP to continue shifting middle
class assets to the rich.

even our rabid right wingers here aren't frothing at the mouth telling
us about the communists over 65 who deserve to die so the wealthy can
have another billion

By the time the right, and left are finished argueing stupidly about
it, it'll be too late. Oh wait, it ALREADY IS.

in a way it is. the right has won

and the country is finished

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:13:37 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Nobody in the GOP has told seniors they have to die so Wall Street can
buy more yachts.. You are making up stuff to further your agenda.

I find it an exercise in futility to discuss anything with people like
yourself.
You have a well proven track record as being as daffy to the left as
Michele Buchmann is to the right.

Eisboch

Oh, ohhhh. You must be a racist!

to a right winger, cliches take the place of evidence

he's unable to do a coherent analysis of paul ryan's war against
seniors and the middle class, so punts until he gets the party line
from glen and rush

Unfortunately, what you call "evidence" is nothing more than "Lobsta'
boats and German screwdrivers"..

fine. then rebut it. give me your evidence

where is it? where's your evidence that seniors will NOT be penalized?
where is you evidence that the rich WONT have their taxes cut?

you right wingers...this is exactly what you do. you bull**** your way
through life carrying all the other bull****ters with you.

and you're burying the country in your bull****

I am still waiting for evidence that I am a racist just because I am a
right leaning libertarian and don't like President Obama's policies as I
didn't like Clintons or Carters...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On 15/04/2011 8:36 PM, bob wrote:
is ANYONE defending this bill on the right? haven't seen anyone out of
congress defending this attempt by the GOP to continue shifting middle
class assets to the rich.

even our rabid right wingers here aren't frothing at the mouth telling
us about the communists over 65 who deserve to die so the wealthy can
have another billion

What bill? You make no sense, typical fleabagger.

DC is broke. And what a better way to justify a huge tax increase, say
a 10% national sales tax than to take away the services of the people.

That ploy has been used to Canada for decades.

Because the people voted for liberal debt, liberal money creation,
liberal bailouts, liberal ponzi banking, liberal greed.

Now the price has to be paid -- cut - cut - cut as sooner or later they
have to get to the pork and fat.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 16/04/2011 4:55 AM, Harryk wrote:
Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/15/2011 10:36 PM, bob wrote:
is ANYONE defending this bill on the right? haven't seen anyone out of
congress defending this attempt by the GOP to continue shifting middle
class assets to the rich.

even our rabid right wingers here aren't frothing at the mouth telling
us about the communists over 65 who deserve to die so the wealthy can
have another billion
Most, in Washington are silent letting Ryan etc take the lead and the
heat.
The voting records are not easily found immediately or published.
Wish someone would take it on to publish voting records daily, on the
net and everywhere and high light positions.


Every GOP member of the House, with four exceptions, voted for that
Bill. It is now official GOP policy, and we'll be able to hang them with
it.

Bottom line is fleabagger lefties broke the bank. Can we tax the
supporters of debt we trust?

Maybe people need to be registered in their support of massive debt so
later they get the bills. Let our grandchildren be free of debt from
fleabaggers.

But socialism is a good idea as long as someone else pays for it right?

Trouble is with you fleabaggers is that you are greedy welshers trying
to stiff others with the bills. Good part, like musical chairs it will
stop some day and those that count on big fat government will see the
reckoning.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:39:04 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/04/2011 8:36 PM, bob wrote:
is ANYONE defending this bill on the right? haven't seen anyone out of
congress defending this attempt by the GOP to continue shifting middle
class assets to the rich.

even our rabid right wingers here aren't frothing at the mouth telling
us about the communists over 65 who deserve to die so the wealthy can
have another billion

What bill? You make no sense, typical fleabagger.

well canuck isnt too bright. doesnt follow american politics...so he's
ignorant of paul ryan's bill that was passed in the house

and, of course, as a right winger, that makes him an expert on it!


Because the people voted for liberal debt, liberal money creation,
liberal bailouts, liberal ponzi banking, liberal greed.

HAHAHAH liberal bailouts! the money went to WALL STREET. dont know too
many liberals who love giving billions to wall street

AND the architect of the bailout was henry paulson

former goldman sachs CEO and sec of the treasury under BUSH

but obama's black, you see...

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:44:16 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:

On 4/16/2011 1:43 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/04/2011 2:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:



Think, with all the banking fraud, including forged mortgage documents
and the like, not one person is actually in jail. DC is corrupt to the
core.
The Military is not discretionary, especially these times.

we spend 50% of the world's defense budget. do we REALLY need that to
protect the US? As defense sec gates pointed out, we have 11 carriers;
no other country has more than one

China is building a huge Military and starting to muscle it's way around
including threatning the US and Korea if the have Military exercises in
the Yellow Sea.

yep and right now they spend about 80B on defense. we spend 7 times
that amount. we can form strategic alliances with other nations. any
money we spend above our needs is just another form of foreign aid

They have grabbed Vietnamese Atolls and Islands and
other neighboring territories.

fine. let the vietnamese fight them as they already have. otherwise,
we can form an alliance with the vietnamese navy (like we are doing
now) AND with the indian navy (our navy exercises more with the indian
navy than we do with any other navy in the world).

we can not afford to patrol the world. if other countries feel
threatened by the chinese, let them spend their money. we can afford
to defend ourselves agains the chinese but we can't afford to protect
the world against every threat everyone faces

They intend to take Taiwan thanks to Wall
Street they may succeed. Russi grabbed more Japaneese Islands. They have
developed Carrier Force killer missles.

and we are developing counter weapons. but it may be time to ask if
the carrier has outlived its usefulness.

They have destroyed American
Satellites.

and we've destroyed theirs. russia's defense budget is less than the
chinese and they have similar technology. we dont need to defend the
world against all the threats.



we simply can't afford it. thanks to wall street...let me repeat
that...

THANKS TO WALL STREET

we now have to compromise our ability to defend our perceived
interests

this is part of the legacy the american people have to understand
we've been given by wall street.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:54:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/04/2011 4:55 AM, Harryk wrote:
Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/15/2011 10:36 PM, bob wrote:
is ANYONE defending this bill on the right? haven't seen anyone out of
congress defending this attempt by the GOP to continue shifting middle
class assets to the rich.


Every GOP member of the House, with four exceptions, voted for that
Bill. It is now official GOP policy, and we'll be able to hang them with
it.

Bottom line is fleabagger lefties broke the bank. Can we tax the
supporters of debt we trust?

more right wing horse****

bush broke the bank. the depression stared under BUSH and was caused,
as alan greenspan said, by WALL STREET GREED.

but the right wing wants to CONTINUE feeding wall street so they blame
it on some mythical 'left'

in america, howerver, there is no left.


But socialism is a good idea as long as someone else pays for it right?

socialism? where? we dont even have socialized medicine

but canuck, who's a blithering moron cliche spouter, just makes up
nonsenscial bull**** about monsters under the bed so he can continue
telling us why wall street will protect america if we give them all
our money