On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

A corp makes a gadget and needs 10% profit. They get taxed at 20% on
that 10% profit (or .2*.1=.02) so they simply increase their price by .
02. Guess who pays that .02? The consumer does.

the consumer of that PRODUCT does. as they should. not everyone buys
all products

Corporate income
tax is simply a way to make personal income tax higher without making
it so obvious. The only people it benefits are accountants.

uh no. in fact you can exclude taxes, as we do here in PA, on food and
clothing while taxing other items. and sales taxes are really
consumption taxes. if you want to encourage savings, boost sales taxes

of course in this economy that would be a disaster which is why the
GOP has made sure this is EXACTLY how state taxes are structured in
the US

On 08/04/2011 3:05 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

A corp makes a gadget and needs 10% profit. They get taxed at 20% on
that 10% profit (or .2*.1=.02) so they simply increase their price by .
02. Guess who pays that .02? The consumer does.

the consumer of that PRODUCT does. as they should. not everyone buys
all products

Corporate income
tax is simply a way to make personal income tax higher without making
it so obvious. The only people it benefits are accountants.

uh no. in fact you can exclude taxes, as we do here in PA, on food and
clothing while taxing other items. and sales taxes are really
consumption taxes. if you want to encourage savings, boost sales taxes

Funny, the real people who get screwed with consumption taxes are lower
middle class and poor. If I buy a second home in Ecuador, I done pay
state taxes. But the poor sucker who can't afford a send home out the
country gets it on his auto purchase.

And more and more people look at taxes before moving. You bet, as the
more the government gets the less you get. Hey, when rich move they
take their highly taxed incomes and spending with them.

of course in this economy that would be a disaster which is why the
GOP has made sure this is EXACTLY how state taxes are structured in
the US

Sorry, dream on with your rhetoric. Even if you believe your BS,
doesn't mater. Your government is pooched on debt and inflation is
going to bit you hard.

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:13:11 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 3:05 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
.

uh no. in fact you can exclude taxes, as we do here in PA, on food and
clothing while taxing other items. and sales taxes are really
consumption taxes. if you want to encourage savings, boost sales taxes

Funny, the real people who get screwed with consumption taxes are lower
middle class and poor.

absolutely correct. that's why GOP politicians at the local level like
'em. state and local taxes are regressive


of course in this economy that would be a disaster which is why the
GOP has made sure this is EXACTLY how state taxes are structured in
the US

Sorry, dream on with your rhetoric. Even if you believe your BS,
doesn't mater. Your government is pooched on debt and inflation is
going to bit you hard.


well you're not american so dont know much about our country.

stay on your side of the border. you dont know anything about YOUR
country let alone mine

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:13:11 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 3:05 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
.

uh no. in fact you can exclude taxes, as we do here in PA, on food and
clothing while taxing other items. and sales taxes are really
consumption taxes. if you want to encourage savings, boost sales taxes

Funny, the real people who get screwed with consumption taxes are lower
middle class and poor.

absolutely correct. that's why GOP politicians at the local level like
'em. state and local taxes are regressive


of course in this economy that would be a disaster which is why the
GOP has made sure this is EXACTLY how state taxes are structured in
the US

Sorry, dream on with your rhetoric. Even if you believe your BS,
doesn't mater. Your government is pooched on debt and inflation is
going to bit you hard.


well you're not american so dont know much about our country.

stay on your side of the border. you dont know anything about YOUR
country let alone mine

You spew this bull**** with each and every post. My state is blue, has
been forever.... We have state taxes, but you would say it's because of
the GOP, how??

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:59:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


well you're not american so dont know much about our country.

stay on your side of the border. you dont know anything about YOUR
country let alone mine

You spew this bull**** with each and every post. My state is blue, has
been forever.... We have state taxes, but you would say it's because of
the GOP, how??

cant help you dude. the GOP wants to **** the middle class. just look
at paul ryan's solution

kill medicare

pass the savings on to the rich in the form of a tax cut

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:59:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


well you're not american so dont know much about our country.

stay on your side of the border. you dont know anything about YOUR
country let alone mine

You spew this bull**** with each and every post. My state is blue, has
been forever.... We have state taxes, but you would say it's because of
the GOP, how??

cant help you dude. the GOP wants to **** the middle class. just look
at paul ryan's solution

kill medicare

pass the savings on to the rich in the form of a tax cut

Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.. I mean, of everybody
here you think the least before posting. In fact, we all know exactly
what you, plum, and harry are gonna' say, without even reading your
posts.. You only have one anyway...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:59:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

well you're not american so dont know much about our country.

stay on your side of the border. you dont know anything about YOUR
country let alone mine
You spew this bull**** with each and every post. My state is blue, has
been forever.... We have state taxes, but you would say it's because of
the GOP, how??
cant help you dude. the GOP wants to **** the middle class. just look
at paul ryan's solution

kill medicare

pass the savings on to the rich in the form of a tax cut

Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.. I mean, of everybody
here you think the least before posting. In fact, we all know exactly
what you, plum, and harry are gonna' say, without even reading your
posts.. You only have one anyway...


Paul Ryan's GOP budget plan does, in fact, trash medicare and provide
huge tax cuts to the very wealthy.

Marginal "thinkers" like you, little man, are spoonfed your "thoughts,"
probably because you don't have the smarts to tell reality from what you
are told to believe.

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 19:11:14 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


cant help you dude. the GOP wants to **** the middle class. just look
at paul ryan's solution

kill medicare

pass the savings on to the rich in the form of a tax cut

Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.. I mean, of everybody
here you think the least before posting. In fact, we all know exactly
what you, plum, and harry are gonna' say, without even reading your
posts.. You only have one anyway...

oh. you ddint read his bill so havent a ****ing clue. OK let me tell
you what it says:

1. medicare would be funded by VOUCHERS given to seniors

2. these would increase at 1% over inflation

uh....when's the last time healthcare costs increased at that LOW
rate??

oh. they never have. so right away the right wants to CUT medicare and
make people pay MORE BUT....

he would cut ALL tax rates to 25% which is what most middle class
folks pay now

except the rich. they pay 35% top rate

so the RICH get a 30% tax cut the elderly get a CUT in medicare

and 'i am tosk' says this is GREAT because he's too STUPID to know
what's in the bill!!

On 08/04/2011 5:04 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:59:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...


well you're not american so dont know much about our country.

stay on your side of the border. you dont know anything about YOUR
country let alone mine

You spew this bull**** with each and every post. My state is blue, has
been forever.... We have state taxes, but you would say it's because of
the GOP, how??

cant help you dude. the GOP wants to **** the middle class. just look
at paul ryan's solution

kill medicare

pass the savings on to the rich in the form of a tax cut

He has no freaking choice, DC is BANKRUPT and can't live on a credit
card forever. Want to wait until SS is next? Or get the spending in
order so the country has a future?

Paul is a true American, he is not deluding himself with his own greed
and need for DEBT on his grandchildren for an easy out today.

You lefties are the truly selfish *******s. You would screw your own
country and kids into debt for your greed today.

I spit on you unAmerican peaces of human trash. (But don't worry,
Canadians have debtors disease too, you will have company).

I seriously believe we have a disease called debtor disease. Not much
difference between debtors withdrawal and heroin withdrawal really.
Many debtors would sell their babies for a clean credit card. Makes
people behave like rats.

All for the greed of DEBT.

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:38:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 5:04 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:59:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


cant help you dude. the GOP wants to **** the middle class. just look
at paul ryan's solution

kill medicare

pass the savings on to the rich in the form of a tax cut

He has no freaking choice, DC is BANKRUPT and can't live on a credit
card forever. Want to wait until SS is next? Or get the spending in
order so the country has a future?

so giving MORE money to the RICH is not optional?

that how the right wing thinks? we have to give MORE and MORE and MORE
to the rich and that will save america??

HAHAHAHAHA


Paul is a true American, he is not deluding himself with his own greed
and need for DEBT on his grandchildren for an easy out today.

uh huh. he's shilling for the rich. his formula is to bankrupt america
and protect the rich

starve the middle class. starve the elderly. but bankroll the rich


You lefties are the truly selfish *******s. You would screw your own
country and kids into debt for your greed today.

he says the middle class, which WORKS for a living, DESERVES to get
screwed 'cuz we're all lazy. our ONLY obligation is to feed the
wealthy

he says it's greedy NOT to bankroll the rich. it's GREEDY for middle
class workers to want healthcare

after all, that money could go to the rich

he said it. un be ****ing lievable...


I seriously believe we have a disease called debtor disease. Not much
difference between debtors withdrawal and heroin withdrawal really.
Many debtors would sell their babies for a clean credit card. Makes
people behave like rats.

All for the greed of DEBT.

you're a socialist for the rich