On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400,
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.


Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing
though.

A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on
the government to hold their hand.

Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute
control and the rest is BS.

When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I
opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still
working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad...

For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real
deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that.

Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because
the best person to trust is yourself.

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400,
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.


Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing
though.

A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on
the government to hold their hand.

Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute
control and the rest is BS.

When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I
opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still
working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad...

For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real
deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that.

Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because
the best person to trust is yourself.

I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100.

On 07/04/2011 9:27 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400,
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.


Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing
though.

Debt and social assistance are in my believe, addictions. He fears the
worst, a sudden withdrawal of the fix.

On 07/04/2011 9:21 AM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.


Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

Nope, bad debtors (including governments), lefties and money for nothing
types and corrupt are what is destroying America.

Looks like the USD got a **** kicking today on the markets. Oil, gold
up to new highs. Rapid hyper-stagflation is coming to you.

Reason is simple. If Feds can borrow as no one in the world (literally)
will lend real money to them any more, creating new inflationary fiat
money faster than toilet paper is actively devaluing the USD currency.

Yep, Obama promised change, and you gasoline costs are going to double
shortly unless congress does something really miraculous. The miracle
would have to be a balanced budget and let the interest rate be set by
the market. No more free ponzi money for corrupt banks and wasteful
governments.

There is a myth here. Government does not really control interest
rates, the market does. Truth is government creates inflation moneys
and loans it under value in a fraud scheme. A ponzi scheme really.
Just saddles the burden on the people. Huge political con game against
the people by Obama and debt addicts.

Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/04/2011 9:21 AM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.


Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

Nope, bad debtors (including governments), lefties and money for nothing
types and corrupt are what is destroying America.

What is destroying America:

1. Corporate and financial sector looters
2. Multinational corporations
3. Hard-line teahadists

On 07/04/2011 11:43 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/04/2011 9:21 AM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.


Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

Nope, bad debtors (including governments), lefties and money for nothing
types and corrupt are what is destroying America.

What is destroying America:

1. Corporate and financial sector looters
2. Multinational corporations
3. Hard-line teahadists

1 - the criminal ones like Harvard's own Wagoner and criminal bank CEOs
you bet. But stock brokerages and the market no. The market is defined
on futures and millions of people that are not corrupted define its
value. I am one of those millions.

2 - Huge hog wash, blame deflection. If you can't compete you are a
loser. Cut the fat, make a better widget more efficiently and you will
succeed. Shake the $12M CEO loose and get the lard out. No CEO in the
US is worth more than a million. Corruption at the top though the whole
system including government.

3) - funny, just jealous of those that do better than you. But then, we
don't spend time thinking about children.

On Apr 7, 2:14*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/04/2011 11:43 AM, Harryk wrote:



Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/04/2011 9:21 AM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.

Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.

Nope, bad debtors (including governments), lefties and money for nothing
types and corrupt are what is destroying America.

What is destroying America:

1. Corporate and financial sector looters
2. Multinational corporations
3. Hard-line teahadists

1 - the criminal ones like Harvard's own Wagoner and criminal bank CEOs
you bet. *But stock brokerages and the market no. *The market is defined
on futures and millions of people that are not corrupted define its
value. *I am one of those millions.

2 - Huge hog wash, blame deflection. *If you can't compete you are a
loser. *Cut the fat, make a better widget more efficiently and you will
succeed. *Shake the $12M CEO loose and get the lard out. *No CEO in the
US is worth more than a million. *Corruption at the top though the whole
system including government.

3) - funny, just jealous of those that do better than you. *But then, we
don't spend time thinking about children.

The dems destroyed the economy thru not reigning in Fannie mae and
Freddie MAc when they were warned about the problem by the Repubs in
2005 and Barney Frank said there was nothing wrong. OF course, they
(Fannie and Freddie) gave huge amounts of money to Obama. Legit
bondholders got screwed in the nationalization of GM and Chrysler.
The Dems gave $787 billion to Obama cronies in the "bailout". The
dems have now run up so many trillions in debt that there is no
reasonable way to pay it off except by massive inflation. The Dems
ran the oil companies out of the Gulf of Mexico resulting in a
doubling of gasoline costs and a huge increase in food inflation.
This is our last chance to save the republic. IF the Dems win, we
will soon be a version of China in North America with crony capitalism
running everything (look at GE now getting away with paying no tax
because they are a big Obama contributor). Party affiliation will
determine who is successful and who is not.
In such a battle, there will be casualties. I expect them to be the
poor who are suffering the most from inflation caused by Dem policies
and some people who truly rely on the govt but the survival of our
republic is on the line. We must hold out for extreme cuts no matter
what they say. Their corruption and attempts to preserve their lavish
lifestyles the working people are paying for will cause them to make
up lies and invent "news". If we fail this time, the only remaining
option will be revolution.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.

Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but
soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
themselves and their union buddies.

Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
in that tax bracket due to inflation.

Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.

Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your
local govt bureaucrat.
This is a war and wars have casualties.

Let's start in your state and see how it works out.

On 07/04/2011 10:14 AM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.

Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but
soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
themselves and their union buddies.

Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
in that tax bracket due to inflation.

Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.

Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your
local govt bureaucrat.
This is a war and wars have casualties.

Let's start in your state and see how it works out.

Actually, the best thing any politicians with any vision at all is to
start passing laws preventing out of control debts be they city, county,
state or federal. Just say NO to more DEBT.

Let the system work it out. If they have to lay the city/state/fed off
for 3 months a year so be it.

A good business manager always knows what the limit is on what he should
pay. Time this came to the civil service.

On 07/04/2011 9:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.

Agreed, the best way to cure debt addiction is just like heroin or
alcohol addiction, cold turkey.

Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but
soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
themselves and their union buddies.

Inflation is already on a roll big time. Oil, gold, silver, copper,
wheat, barley, foods -- they are not up in value, they are the same as
they were a 100 years ago when gold was $19/oz.

What is happening is the USD isn't worth as much today as it was
yesterday (literally).

Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
in that tax bracket due to inflation.

Just like "The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs".

My guess is cuts will be token. If they don't cut at least a trillion
right this year, I would not take DC efforts seriously.

More importantly, US Fed Bernake has to stop new inflationary money
creation. If government wants money they need to go out to the markets
and pay a real interest rate and legitimately borrow real money.

Firing Bernake would be good too. The man is a fraudster criminal.

Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.

When the big bubble crashes, it will be the lower classes that hurt the
worst. Upper middle class and upper classes will fair well with their
oil, precious metals and must have stocks that can pass on the
government created inflation.

Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your
local govt bureaucrat.
This is a war and wars have casualties.

Agreed, when someone says sacred, sharpen the knives and start hacking.
I really doubt any serious effort would leave any budget untouched be
it the Whitehouse staff or the coffee machine in Guam.

This is a war on chronic debt addiction.