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It is not the case here. The issue is unions buying politicians with millions of dollars of dues money, then going to those same politicians to negotiate their own benefits. If they don't get what they want, they can buy someone else and he pols know that. It's called racketeering, or "business as usual" for Unions... You ignorant little slut. It is illegal for unions to use dues money for political purposes. Unions may collect voluntary gifts from members for political action. |
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says... In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:09:33 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:05:55 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:32:51 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:03:24 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:49:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Nonsense. They believe performance does matter, and they're sick of teaching to tests that don't teach kids anything useful except maybe how to take tests. Taking tests is a very important skill but these teachers do not want their salary tied to any measure of performance. They want to be paid by credentials and time in grade. Make that sound reasonable to me.. A totally out of touch teacher with 20 years on the job and a PhD, who gets horrible results, makes 3 times as much as a new teacher who connects with the kids and really gets something done in the classroom. That is ridiculous. Too many variables in your argument. You're making assumptions the kids in each class are pretty much the same kids, with the same home life. When I was in public school, the older, more experienced teachers were by far the better teachers. Maybe but I had a terrible crush on Mr. Hansen in 8th grade. He was one of the younger ones. Of course, I can't remember a single thing he said. Most of my public school teachers made really strong, positive impressions on me. In all those years, though, there was only one young woman I considered cute. In those days, just after Franklin "discovered" electricity, the teachers did not have to take the amount of b.s. dished up to them today. Ah yeah, the 50s when teachers could smoke in class and slap the students. Those were the days. We did seem to learn more and classroom discipline was a whole lot better. They still measured our progress on how we did on those evil tests. In fact there was one every Friday. Hmmm. I don't recall teachers smoking in class or on school grounds, nor do I recall students being slapped. Of course we had tests, and lots of them. The teachers all could smoke in the teacher's lounge and a few extended that to the classroom. Nobody ever said a word. My 8th grade social studies (AKA Core) used to bum a smoke off of our "Jethro" student, a kid from West Virginia who was about 18. They would both spark up right there in class. The teacher was only about 23-24. Actually that may have been the best class I had as far as learning anything. The algebra teacher was some old crone who just droned on and on with virtually zero interaction with the class. I think about a third of the class was really not getting the material. I know it baffled me and in summer school it seemed easy. The teacher (in the private school) actually made some effort to help us understand instead of just making it a lecture. That was my last year in Public school. I was in public school all the way, K-12. There were plenty of "prep" and parochial schools in New Haven and in Connecticut, of course. Some of the "snooty" kids went to the fancier prep high schools. I only recall one bad teacher, and that was in junior high school. A match teacher, a young one, and too much the smart aleck. I built a cloud chamber for my seventh grade science project. Damned thing worked, too. Consisted of a metal cooking tray, painted flat black, on which sat a one gallon cider jug with the top and bottom cut off to make a cylinder. There was a copper band (maybe two) around the inside of the jug. A spark coil from a Model A Ford was connected to the copper, and the spark coil was connected to a battery. Put a radium clock hand on the cooking tray (which sat on a slab of dry ice), turn off the lights, shine a projector into the glass, and you could clearly see the trails given off by the radium on the clock hand. And it turns into a lie about Harry...... Next he developed the 100 mile per gallon carb, and that was on his way to curing cancer!!! LOL! |
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In , says... In articleoq6dnQ98EdQevw_QnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:09:33 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:05:55 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:32:51 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:03:24 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:49:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Nonsense. They believe performance does matter, and they're sick of teaching to tests that don't teach kids anything useful except maybe how to take tests. Taking tests is a very important skill but these teachers do not want their salary tied to any measure of performance. They want to be paid by credentials and time in grade. Make that sound reasonable to me.. A totally out of touch teacher with 20 years on the job and a PhD, who gets horrible results, makes 3 times as much as a new teacher who connects with the kids and really gets something done in the classroom. That is ridiculous. Too many variables in your argument. You're making assumptions the kids in each class are pretty much the same kids, with the same home life. When I was in public school, the older, more experienced teachers were by far the better teachers. Maybe but I had a terrible crush on Mr. Hansen in 8th grade. He was one of the younger ones. Of course, I can't remember a single thing he said. Most of my public school teachers made really strong, positive impressions on me. In all those years, though, there was only one young woman I considered cute. In those days, just after Franklin "discovered" electricity, the teachers did not have to take the amount of b.s. dished up to them today. Ah yeah, the 50s when teachers could smoke in class and slap the students. Those were the days. We did seem to learn more and classroom discipline was a whole lot better. They still measured our progress on how we did on those evil tests. In fact there was one every Friday. Hmmm. I don't recall teachers smoking in class or on school grounds, nor do I recall students being slapped. Of course we had tests, and lots of them. The teachers all could smoke in the teacher's lounge and a few extended that to the classroom. Nobody ever said a word. My 8th grade social studies (AKA Core) used to bum a smoke off of our "Jethro" student, a kid from West Virginia who was about 18. They would both spark up right there in class. The teacher was only about 23-24. Actually that may have been the best class I had as far as learning anything. The algebra teacher was some old crone who just droned on and on with virtually zero interaction with the class. I think about a third of the class was really not getting the material. I know it baffled me and in summer school it seemed easy. The teacher (in the private school) actually made some effort to help us understand instead of just making it a lecture. That was my last year in Public school. I was in public school all the way, K-12. There were plenty of "prep" and parochial schools in New Haven and in Connecticut, of course. Some of the "snooty" kids went to the fancier prep high schools. I only recall one bad teacher, and that was in junior high school. A match teacher, a young one, and too much the smart aleck. I built a cloud chamber for my seventh grade science project. Damned thing worked, too. Consisted of a metal cooking tray, painted flat black, on which sat a one gallon cider jug with the top and bottom cut off to make a cylinder. There was a copper band (maybe two) around the inside of the jug. A spark coil from a Model A Ford was connected to the copper, and the spark coil was connected to a battery. Put a radium clock hand on the cooking tray (which sat on a slab of dry ice), turn off the lights, shine a projector into the glass, and you could clearly see the trails given off by the radium on the clock hand. And it turns into a lie about Harry...... Next he developed the 100 mile per gallon carb, and that was on his way to curing cancer!!! LOL! Well, some of us were and are smart and some of us were and are not smart. I'm in the former group and you're in the latter. If you can think of why my description of a simple cloud chamber would not work, you just go ahead and post your reasons. Otherwise, you should stick to what you know...stacking crates in a warehouse, shoveling **** out of a barn, and living vicariously through the dangerous sport in which you have shoved your daughter. |
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@mypacks.net says... I_am_Tosk wrote: It is not the case here. The issue is unions buying politicians with millions of dollars of dues money, then going to those same politicians to negotiate their own benefits. If they don't get what they want, they can buy someone else and he pols know that. It's called racketeering, or "business as usual" for Unions... You ignorant little slut. It is illegal for unions to use dues money for political purposes. Unions may collect voluntary gifts from members for political action. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean that it's not done, dip****. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... In articleoq6dnQ98EdQevw_QnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:09:33 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:05:55 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:32:51 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:03:24 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:49:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Nonsense. They believe performance does matter, and they're sick of teaching to tests that don't teach kids anything useful except maybe how to take tests. Taking tests is a very important skill but these teachers do not want their salary tied to any measure of performance. They want to be paid by credentials and time in grade. Make that sound reasonable to me.. A totally out of touch teacher with 20 years on the job and a PhD, who gets horrible results, makes 3 times as much as a new teacher who connects with the kids and really gets something done in the classroom. That is ridiculous. Too many variables in your argument. You're making assumptions the kids in each class are pretty much the same kids, with the same home life. When I was in public school, the older, more experienced teachers were by far the better teachers. Maybe but I had a terrible crush on Mr. Hansen in 8th grade. He was one of the younger ones. Of course, I can't remember a single thing he said. Most of my public school teachers made really strong, positive impressions on me. In all those years, though, there was only one young woman I considered cute. In those days, just after Franklin "discovered" electricity, the teachers did not have to take the amount of b.s. dished up to them today. Ah yeah, the 50s when teachers could smoke in class and slap the students. Those were the days. We did seem to learn more and classroom discipline was a whole lot better. They still measured our progress on how we did on those evil tests. In fact there was one every Friday. Hmmm. I don't recall teachers smoking in class or on school grounds, nor do I recall students being slapped. Of course we had tests, and lots of them. The teachers all could smoke in the teacher's lounge and a few extended that to the classroom. Nobody ever said a word. My 8th grade social studies (AKA Core) used to bum a smoke off of our "Jethro" student, a kid from West Virginia who was about 18. They would both spark up right there in class. The teacher was only about 23-24. Actually that may have been the best class I had as far as learning anything. The algebra teacher was some old crone who just droned on and on with virtually zero interaction with the class. I think about a third of the class was really not getting the material. I know it baffled me and in summer school it seemed easy. The teacher (in the private school) actually made some effort to help us understand instead of just making it a lecture. That was my last year in Public school. I was in public school all the way, K-12. There were plenty of "prep" and parochial schools in New Haven and in Connecticut, of course. Some of the "snooty" kids went to the fancier prep high schools. I only recall one bad teacher, and that was in junior high school. A match teacher, a young one, and too much the smart aleck. I built a cloud chamber for my seventh grade science project. Damned thing worked, too. Consisted of a metal cooking tray, painted flat black, on which sat a one gallon cider jug with the top and bottom cut off to make a cylinder. There was a copper band (maybe two) around the inside of the jug. A spark coil from a Model A Ford was connected to the copper, and the spark coil was connected to a battery. Put a radium clock hand on the cooking tray (which sat on a slab of dry ice), turn off the lights, shine a projector into the glass, and you could clearly see the trails given off by the radium on the clock hand. And it turns into a lie about Harry...... Next he developed the 100 mile per gallon carb, and that was on his way to curing cancer!!! LOL! Well, some of us were and are smart and some of us were and are not smart. I'm in the former group and you're in the latter. If you can think of why my description of a simple cloud chamber would not work, you just go ahead and post your reasons. Otherwise, you should stick to what you know...stacking crates in a warehouse, shoveling **** out of a barn, and living vicariously through the dangerous sport in which you have shoved your daughter. Wow, we've caught Harry in yet another lie!! And a big one at that. You can always tell by how hard he huffs and puffs when he calls names and insults like a little kid! |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:18:42 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:09:33 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:05:55 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:32:51 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:03:24 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:49:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Nonsense. They believe performance does matter, and they're sick of teaching to tests that don't teach kids anything useful except maybe how to take tests. Taking tests is a very important skill but these teachers do not want their salary tied to any measure of performance. They want to be paid by credentials and time in grade. Make that sound reasonable to me.. A totally out of touch teacher with 20 years on the job and a PhD, who gets horrible results, makes 3 times as much as a new teacher who connects with the kids and really gets something done in the classroom. That is ridiculous. Too many variables in your argument. You're making assumptions the kids in each class are pretty much the same kids, with the same home life. When I was in public school, the older, more experienced teachers were by far the better teachers. Maybe but I had a terrible crush on Mr. Hansen in 8th grade. He was one of the younger ones. Of course, I can't remember a single thing he said. Most of my public school teachers made really strong, positive impressions on me. In all those years, though, there was only one young woman I considered cute. In those days, just after Franklin "discovered" electricity, the teachers did not have to take the amount of b.s. dished up to them today. Ah yeah, the 50s when teachers could smoke in class and slap the students. Those were the days. We did seem to learn more and classroom discipline was a whole lot better. They still measured our progress on how we did on those evil tests. In fact there was one every Friday. Hmmm. I don't recall teachers smoking in class or on school grounds, nor do I recall students being slapped. Of course we had tests, and lots of them. The teachers all could smoke in the teacher's lounge and a few extended that to the classroom. Nobody ever said a word. My 8th grade social studies (AKA Core) used to bum a smoke off of our "Jethro" student, a kid from West Virginia who was about 18. They would both spark up right there in class. The teacher was only about 23-24. Actually that may have been the best class I had as far as learning anything. The algebra teacher was some old crone who just droned on and on with virtually zero interaction with the class. I think about a third of the class was really not getting the material. I know it baffled me and in summer school it seemed easy. The teacher (in the private school) actually made some effort to help us understand instead of just making it a lecture. That was my last year in Public school. I was in public school all the way, K-12. There were plenty of "prep" and parochial schools in New Haven and in Connecticut, of course. Some of the "snooty" kids went to the fancier prep high schools. The school I went to (Woodward) was a mix of kids trying to stay out of reform school and the rich and famous. Chris Dodd was there, punching up his transcript I suppose, since it doesn't show on his bio. It could be because his handlers said he should not list a school where the most famous graduate was L Ron Hubbard ;-) The thing I liked about it was few of the teachers were actually career teachers. They were usually on their way up the food chain or they were retired from something else. It gave us a more rounded view on things. My math teacher taught math and engineering at West Point. The chemistry teacher was a PhD chemist, retired from a number of federal government lab operations. USDA, FDA, BADD. (what became BATFE). The Science teacher was a PhD from Germany, looking for a better gig here. The latin and ancient history teacher was in law school, having taught an ancient cultures course at GW and decided he wanted more from life. These guys liked it because they might only be teaching a couple classes a day. The biology teacher was also working on a grant from NIH doing some kind of study. He taught 2 classes, then he went off to his real job. He certainly seemed to know a lot of stuff that wasn't in the book. We were talking about DNA sequencing at a time when most people had never heard the term,. I went he Hillhouse High School From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from James Hillhouse High School) James Hillhouse High School Address 480 Sherman Parkway New Haven, Connecticut, United States James Hillhouse Comprehensive High School is the oldest public high school in New Haven, Connecticut. Established in 1859 as New Haven High School, Hillhouse High School is New Haven's oldest public high school. Located on Orange Street, it adopted its nickname, "The Academics," in acknowledgment of its close association with Yale University. In 1863, the school was moved to a building at Orange and Wall streets, which was replaced in 1871 by a new school. The school is named in honor of James Hillhouse of New Haven, who represented Connecticut in the U.S. Congress in the early years of the United States' existence as a nation, serving as both a Representative and a Senator. For many years, Hillhouse served not only New Haven but also suburban towns around the city that did not have high schools of their own. Its peak enrollment was nearly 5,000 students, when the school had to conduct double sessions to accommodate the large enrollment. The school includes grades 9 through 12 and enrolls about 979 students. Hillhouse became involved in athletic competition as early as 1866, when some boys formed a club to play a sport that is described as having "resembled rugby and soccer." By 1884, students were participating in several sports, including modern football, which had been invented by Walter Camp of New Haven. Team competition in baseball, tennis, ice hockey, indoor polo and yacht racing also had been established around this time. Basketball was introduced around the beginning of the 20th century. In the school's history, Hillhouse football teams have won 17 state championships, ranking the school third in the state for football championships. The boys’ and girls’ basketball teams have a combined total of more than 25 state championships. The boys’ and girls’ track teams also have more than 25 state championships between them. The Academics also have won state championships in baseball, swimming, ice hockey and tennis. Among the school's notable alumni a David Beckerman, founder and CEO of the Starter Clothing Line[4][7] Albie Booth[5] Ernest Borgnine, actor[4] John C. Daniels, mayor of New Haven[5] Robert Giaimo, U.S. Congressman[5] Louis Harris, pollster[5] John Huggins, leader in the Black Panthers Levi Jackson, first African-American to play football for Yale University[5] Richard C. Lee, mayor of New Haven[5] Marvin Lender of Lender's Bagels[5] Floyd Little[4] Constance Baker Motley[4] Eugene Pergament, geneticist and 1951 graduate of Hillhouse who has donated $1 million to the school to fund scholarships for graduates[8] Maurice Podoloff, first president of the National Basketball Association[9] Vincent Scully, architectural historian[5] Terrell Wilks, sprinter and All American at University of Florida Johnny Huggins was one of my best buddies. He was a year or two behind me. Floyd Little was a year ahead of me. Maurice Podoloff was the father of my father's best buddy. I wasn't aware that Vince Scully was a graduate. |
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On 3/29/11 4:19 PM, Harryk wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:18:42 -0400, Johnny Huggins was one of my best buddies. He was a year or two behind me. Floyd Little was a year ahead of me. Maurice Podoloff was the father of my father's best buddy. I wasn't aware that Vince Scully was a graduate. Wow, you are so special. I guess it must be senility where you can't remember if your "best buddies" was one or two years behind you. |
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