John H wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:30:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar? Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.
Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

Why should we help the Libyan minority? Saddam was killing his people by the
hundreds of thousands. What was wrong with our helping them? Is it the right
thing to attack Libya because some Libyans have weapons, but the wrong thing to
have helped Iraqis because they didn't?

Are there more countries in favor of our attacking Libya than were supporting
our attack in Iraq? So what?

The fact that we're not looking for WMD, and that there's been no indication the
Libyans possess such makes the question that much more pertinent.

Where is the threat to the USA?

Your response was very weak. But, I can see you are in favor of attacking Libya.


There are many differences, including these:

No one in the Obama administration is lying about why we might get
involved in a limited way in Libya. The Bush administration lied us into
Iraq.

I haven't seen any statements that would commit U.S. ground troops to Libya.

What may take place in Libya is an incursion to remove the dictator
there. How many *years* has Bush's war in Iraq been going on?

You are an idiot, Herring. With your help, we lost in Southeast Asia.

On 19/03/2011 12:49 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/03/2011 10:36 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleZsKdnVZuaezWRBnQnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/03/2011 6:58 AM, John H wrote:
...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar?
Where
is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.

Gaddafi must have ****ed of someone in high power somewhere.

If it were about justice, how come for 3 decades the power that be did
nothing? I don't like him, he should have had his neck stretched years
ago, but why now? Our corrupt leaders say so? What is the real motive
for this?

Come now, pretty obvious some alliance exists with US-UN-France
where in
about 1/2 dozen countries the UN backed man is trying to replace the
local dictators or even democratically elected. Remeber the people of
Libya wanted Gaddafi and still do, BBC news showed protesters in
Gaddafi's support.

Because US-UN-France is fighting for a minority of gun toting rebel
criminals.

If an armed minority marched on DC, and another country came in to
support them -- that is what the US is doing!

Basically US-UN-France is the drivin force with Europe and Arab rich
calling the shots.

The new world order at work.

Thank you for the insights into your brain. It's a scary place, what
with your endless conspiracy theories.

I don't like Muammer el-Qaddafi either, but...as bad as he is, he is a
piker when you add up his murders and compare that number to the
hundreds of thousands of innocents our troops killed in Southeast Asia,
Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Iceland might be to your liking.

I was thinking Costa Rica. They got rid of the national army on the last
copue d'etat attempt. They don't miss the army either.

We war mongers in the west spend far too much on WAR, and little on much
else.

Peaceful place too Costa Rica is. War mongers get dismissed pretty quick.

Three of my retired union buddies have moved to Costa Rica, and another
is thinking about it. They have national health care that even
"furriners" can buy into at a reasonable price. Imported manufactured
goods are very, very expensive, because of import taxes. There have been
some problems with kidnapping of Americans, and its neighbors to the
north and south wander across the border from time to time to start
trouble. But, mostly, it is a peaceful place with many assets to attract
U.S. citizens. Pretty country, too, with mountains and seashores and
excellent fishing. Almost every Costa Rican I encountered on my trip
there spoke pretty good English. And for the bachelors, the chica ticas
are...well, fabulous.

From what I hear, a big Canadian community down there too. And would
be nice to learn spanish from a nice one the eyes chica ticas even
though I have no intention of an intimate relationship. Could be
tempting though, temptation is nice but like my wife as she is. Maybe a
threesone? Hahaha -- dreaming.

No big, I probably would not import much. Bet the local made stuff is
good. Get a lot more fresh produce local that is real good, just have
to addapt the cooking skills.

On 19/03/2011 10:30 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar? Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.

Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

No need to any more. Just take the country over. Libya isn't the only
place this is going on. Media has been well managed by our governments
and the UN. Don't like the leader? Incite riot, arm the militants and
excuse to trash the country. Then install a UN puppet leader. The
modern way.

Because just a list of where UN-France and other foreign invaders are
messing up include Guiana, Ivory Coast and I hear Rwanda and Zimbabwe
are ramping up. Our leaders are quietly ignoring the carnage in Yemem
and Bahrain but I suspect that is because Saudi's are pulling Obama and
the UN srings here.

On 19/03/2011 12:00 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar? Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.

Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Kurds are a bigger problem due the their domain being within Turkey,
Iran and Iraq.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see the Arab League sending troops or assistance to help the
rebels in Libya.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

The weapon of mass destruction in Libya is Gaddafi.

People who midles hate like that also followed Adolph.

Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/03/2011 10:30 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar?
Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.

Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

No need to any more. Just take the country over. Libya isn't the only
place this is going on. Media has been well managed by our governments
and the UN. Don't like the leader? Incite riot, arm the militants and
excuse to trash the country. Then install a UN puppet leader. The modern
way.

Because just a list of where UN-France and other foreign invaders are
messing up include Guiana, Ivory Coast and I hear Rwanda and Zimbabwe
are ramping up. Our leaders are quietly ignoring the carnage in Yemem
and Bahrain but I suspect that is because Saudi's are pulling Obama and
the UN srings here.

Take the country over?

Colonialism is sort of out of date, eh?

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I was thinking Costa Rica. They got rid of the national army on the last
copue d'etat attempt. They don't miss the army either.

We war mongers in the west spend far too much on WAR, and little on much
else.

Peaceful place too Costa Rica is. War mongers get dismissed pretty quick.

Three of my retired union buddies have moved to Costa Rica, and another
is thinking about it. They have national health care that even
"furriners" can buy into at a reasonable price. Imported manufactured
goods are very, very expensive, because of import taxes. There have been
some problems with kidnapping of Americans, and its neighbors to the
north and south wander across the border from time to time to start
trouble. But, mostly, it is a peaceful place with many assets to attract
U.S. citizens. Pretty country, too, with mountains and seashores and
excellent fishing. Almost every Costa Rican I encountered on my trip
there spoke pretty good English. And for the bachelors, the chica ticas
are...well, fabulous.

Some 30 years ago my sisters boyfriend at the time had purchased an
automobile in the US and wanted to take it back to Costa Rica. However,
he didn't want to pay to have it shipped by boat due to the import
duties. This guy decided to drive his car from the US to Costa Rica.
Once he entered Mexico he was never heard from again.

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:11:20 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:

On 19/03/2011 10:30 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar? Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.

Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

No need to any more. Just take the country over. Libya isn't the only
place this is going on. Media has been well managed by our governments
and the UN. Don't like the leader? Incite riot, arm the militants and
excuse to trash the country. Then install a UN puppet leader. The
modern way.

Because just a list of where UN-France and other foreign invaders are
messing up include Guiana, Ivory Coast and I hear Rwanda and Zimbabwe
are ramping up. Our leaders are quietly ignoring the carnage in Yemem
and Bahrain but I suspect that is because Saudi's are pulling Obama and
the UN srings here.

It's all about oil. I keep waiting for jps to jump in and say that.

What a bunch of jokers!

On 19/03/2011 1:56 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleDLGdnfcWfdMsZxnQnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I was thinking Costa Rica. They got rid of the national army on the last
copue d'etat attempt. They don't miss the army either.

We war mongers in the west spend far too much on WAR, and little on much
else.

Peaceful place too Costa Rica is. War mongers get dismissed pretty quick.

Three of my retired union buddies have moved to Costa Rica, and another
is thinking about it. They have national health care that even
"furriners" can buy into at a reasonable price. Imported manufactured
goods are very, very expensive, because of import taxes. There have been
some problems with kidnapping of Americans, and its neighbors to the
north and south wander across the border from time to time to start
trouble. But, mostly, it is a peaceful place with many assets to attract
U.S. citizens. Pretty country, too, with mountains and seashores and
excellent fishing. Almost every Costa Rican I encountered on my trip
there spoke pretty good English. And for the bachelors, the chica ticas
are...well, fabulous.

Some 30 years ago my sisters boyfriend at the time had purchased an
automobile in the US and wanted to take it back to Costa Rica. However,
he didn't want to pay to have it shipped by boat due to the import
duties. This guy decided to drive his car from the US to Costa Rica.
Once he entered Mexico he was never heard from again.

FUD. People disappear here in Canada and I am sure in the US too. In
fact the missing reports of our two countries is a lot of people. At
least 7 or so have disapeared inside of a few hours from where I live,
and that is just the missing bodies.

If it isn't disavatagious cost wise I too might bring the vehicle to
Costa Rica. Just some places I would avoid in both Mexico and the US.

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:30:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John H
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar? Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.

Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

This is far too complex for the simpletons on the right to figure out
on their own. Attacking a country on juiced up intelligence vs.
taking out military installations of a dictator actively killing his
own countrymen in open warfare.

They don't get the difference.

jps wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:30:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:58:15 -0400, John
wrote:

...doing that is much worse than what Sadam was doing.

Now 'Bama wants to attack Libya. Where's all the liberal uproar? Where is the
threat to the US from Libya?

This man has gone off the deep end.
Why not help people that want to help themselves? I didn't see that in
Iraq.... except by the Kurds.

The Libyans people seem to need help and the world community
*including* The Arab League is on board.

I don't see ANY similarities between that and the Iraq debacle....
we're certainly not looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
Are we?

This is far too complex for the simpletons on the right to figure out
on their own. Attacking a country on juiced up intelligence vs.
taking out military installations of a dictator actively killing his
own countrymen in open warfare.

They don't get the difference.

Let's be real here. What sort of intellectually and logically based
commentary would you anticipate coming from the racist birthers here?
Are you expecting that a glimmer of enlightenment might strike Herring,
Ingersoll, Frogwatch, Canuck, et al? Why?